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besides this thread being obvious trolling...

never understood the idea that simply because someone has black skin that makes THEM more knowledgable or credible to talk about rap or hip hop than someone that isn't. :laff: stupid thread. hell.. i'll even say that this thread is actually racist not just towards white people but to black people as well. you have some black folks always complain about racism, being stereotyped BUT yet they pull shyt like this.

I've never understood the egotistical and elitist modern day backpackers now known as hipsters who took it upon themselves to say what is and what is not Hip Hop. The Def Jux stans couldn't convince the populace that their favorite artists weren't trash, so they became urban music journalists and have been attempting to sway the culture ever since. Some days it appears they're winning.
 

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I've never understood the egotistical and elitist modern day backpackers now known as hipsters who took it upon themselves to say what is and what is not Hip Hop. The Def Jux stans couldn't convince the populace that their favorite artists weren't trash, so they became urban music journalists and have been attempting to sway the culture ever since. Some days it appears they're winning.

don't know about you BUT this shyt has been happening for YEARS, decades even. don't know how old you are BUT if you've been into rap, there's always been the whole elitism bullshyt where folks have been on some "this is REAL hip hop", "if you buy that, you're not a rap fan", "buy my album if you support hip hop" shyt. hell, some artists even used that as a tactic of forging respect and as an album sale tactic.

it was okay when krs one and little brother, just to name a few, were doing that shyt talking about "don't support the commercial shyt that they play on the radio" because they didn't get airplay or no love for the radio BUT folks have a problem when complex does it. everybody ready to say what is and what is NOT rap or hip hop BUT very few people know the history of that shyt to begin with. i'll take krs-ones word over the history of rap ALTHOUGH he's guilty of twisting around shyt to make HIMSELF look good and others look bad, on some elitist shyt like how he did to nelly... nelly straight up owned him on that petty shyt. krs-one getting mad at nelly making a song saying the same shyt that damn near every rapper has done.. calling themselves the best.
 

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bytch ass @2meo negged me.:mjlol:.boy please find me reviewers on this site that are on pitch forks level..I've been on this site for 2 years and haven't read one decent review :mjlol:

Now my boy X Factor on ughh.com is actually on Pitchforks level or better:ufdup:

Share: Common: Nobody’s Smiling

MCs (lyrical content and delivery): 88
Production: 78
Songs (hooks and overall feeling): 45
Average: 70
Grade: C-
Favorite Track: Out On Bond feat. Vince Staples

Yeah, we got ghost writers; they just actually ghosts

It is now a cliché that hip hop is bringing the reality of the streets or as Chuck put it, “hip hop is the streets CNN”. It is obvious from my 90s reference that this is a dated idea; however, the concept of channeling the dead voices of those who have fallen within the poverty of urban America resonates as a more apt metaphor for street raps despite the supernatural nature of the idea.

We are not objective dispassionate observers and recorders of everyday life like Chuck D claimed with his reporter metaphor.

It is more accurate to say that as humans we are enslaved to our subjectivity and prey to our more powerful and often more destructive emotions and appetites.

So the idea that we are empaths possessed by those that are gone with all their unbridled lusts playing out the same dramas that Homer spoke of and Shakespeare presented on stage makes a lot more sense.

Nobody’s Smiling presents the world in some of the ways that it is but also in the ways that disempowered poor people see it lashing out at an impersonal system that withstands the wrath of the living millions and the infinite dead.

Too bad things fall apart or maybe it is more accurate to say that things never quite come together.

No one told Common though because he is rapping like he is in his prime with a flow that has never petrified and remains as liquid as ever.

Despite the below average grade, this album does not deserve hate. Once again Common has tried to do something different and No ID has progressed in his sound palette. It just doesn’t marry as well as it used to.

1. The Neighborhood feat. Lil’ Herb & Cocaine 80s: Forget the intro from Cocaine 80s. Curtis Mayfield warms up the track nicely til Common comes crashing through the door with a flow and lyrics that sound as refined as anything off the post-Can I Borrow A Dollar albums. Hood tales that present the setting without the hyperbole that many rappers fall prey to. Classic Common with a standout feature from Lil’ Herb.

2. No Fear: Attempting to force Common’s flow over this beat was a mistake. The production is minimalist and inoffensive but the verses never seem to gel with the track, never mind the pointless chorus. We get a bit of that Kanye noise manipulation to end the track that demonstrates how the protégé has become the master and the master is now playing catch up with far less interesting results.

3. Diamonds feat. Big Sean: Big Sean’s hook stands out but not for being a welcome addition rather the only thing that grabs even some puzzled attention over this marching beat. Common dependably does his thing but drops a few clunker lines within his couple verses.

4. Black Magic: You would think that Common was completely out from under the influence of the siren Erykah Badu... this track is the counter to that claim and where the album almost completely falls apart. Obnoxious repetition of black magic through most of the track Common Jheno Aiko delivers the only listenable moment and the fact that she can cut through this mess of production with her charming mic presence even for a short time is a miracle. But even she is eventually drowned in the relentless beating of this terrible beat.

5. Speak My Piece: Almost Neptunes-esque in the simplicity of this bass rattling percussive head nodder, Common delivers over this track, but as the track just repeats over and over for close to two minutes with no rapping, you get the sense they had no idea what do to with this song or how to end it. An above average mixtape type track.

6. Hustle Harder feat. Snoh Aalegra & Drizzy: The attempt to appeal to a younger rap audience comes off awkward in a few moments on this album. This hook is one of those times. It is too bad too because the production on this track is some of the nicest on the album with the piano vocal intro from Snoh Aalegra that sounds like it is coming out of a 1940s jazz club and the undulating bass line of the track that snakes all around Common’s voice is exceptional.

7. Nobody’s Smiling feat. Malik Yusef: Another repeated phrase hook with a sinister bass line and the tease of a beat with the snare taps. Once again, Common sounds as hungry and serious about his rhyme craft as ever, but the production doesn’t complement his sound. The spoken word outro from Malik Yusef has some great lines. This might have been better as an intro track in the sequence on the album because it is not terrible.

8. Real feat. Elijah Blake: The staple of the rap album that tries to appeal to everyone is the R&B joint. Production is nice. Common is nice. The hook is not.

9. Kingdom feat. Vince Staples: Sometimes you want to love a track. It was the anticipation of hearing two talented MCs, one young and one old, rock a track over a talented producer’s work and create the six minute plus epic in the vein of Stairway To Heaven, Dream On or You Can’t Always Get What You Want that rap as a genre is sorely lacking that established my sky high anticipation. Vince had been delivering amazing features on albums from just about everyone and Common is still a top notch MC; however, the utter boring execution of this track is so disappointing. Take a page from rock and understand that to keep a track interesting for over six minutes you need to layer in feeling and lustfully climax. Change the tempo! Add an angelic chorus! Do something!

10. Rewind That: Art makes us immortal. Resonate on a human level and barring mass destruction of human civilization you will live forever and be able revisit it all. Time travel before mistakes were made and everything was right. The Jay Dee influence is a nice touch to the track. Dope concept. Dope production. Dope hook. Brutal honesty. A track that belongs in the cannon of great tribute songs alongside T.R.O.Y.

11. Out On Bond feat. Vince Staples: Unlike Kingdom, this is the song that fulfills the promise of the grouping of Com, Vince and No ID. This is a lean track that has a tumbling ride cymbal dominated beat that Common rips and Vince comes with a cool not heard since Snoop circa The Chronic. The fact that two out of three of these bonus tracks are bonus tracks and not regular album tracks casts who ever sequenced this album’s tastes into complete doubt.

12. 7 Deadly Sins: Shuffling beat that would sound at home on a funky Meters record and synths that add a menacing element to the already dark subject matter as Common catalogues the human sins from street point of view. The other great song that should have found a place on the regular album.

13. Young Hearts Run Free feat. Cocaine 80s: Like the meandering sounds on this track, this song never seems to coalesce into anything worth more than a couple listens and then dismissal. The only interesting aspect is the almost Hendrix-like guitar that ends the track, which is too bad because like the record itself, the disparate production and vocals just never quite come together to make a great album despite some excellent songs.
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I don't see how they dikkride Drake...they give his albums 8's...Basically the average score most reviewers gave them. You're just salty because they rightly shytted on 50 wack albums. They're definitely on Kayne's dikk tho

one pitchfork writer has/had a twitter profile picture of himself sitting with Birdman at a hornets game front row .

I'm sure they are objective :sas2:
 

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bytch ass @2meo negged me.:mjlol:.boy please find me reviewers on this site that are on pitch forks level..I've been on this site for 2 years and haven't read one decent review :mjlol:

Now my boy X Factor on ughh.com is actually on Pitchforks level or better:ufdup:
I don't read pitchfork and I didn't read your boys review either
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If Pitchfork is not a hip hop publication, why in the hell are they reviewing hip hop albums? :what:

Do hip hop publications review rock, techno and whatever other bullshyt that they listen to?

Pitchfork is a music publication, like Rolling Stone, except with a more in depth review system...they don't have to be a hip hop publication to talk about hip hop...

i don't know why people are so mad, they're just another point of view on music...it ain't like no publication is on the money all the time...
 

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One thing OP is saying that I think some of y'all are missing is that it kinda feels like we have less black writers and journalists talking about Hip Hop or even other genres but we getting more and more white reviewers. I know a lot who are trying to get on that journalist grind and its a lot of work and a lot of feelings of your being comprised just being of a different race.

Y'all think this is just over 50, bigger question is where are the diverse tastemakers for a site that is largely influential in internet conversation
 

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One thing OP is saying that I think some of y'all are missing is that it kinda feels like we have less black writers and journalists talking about Hip Hop or even other genres but we getting more and more white reviewers. I know a lot who are trying to get on that journalist grind and its a lot of work and a lot of feelings of your being comprised just being of a different race.

Y'all think this is just over 50, bigger question is where are the diverse tastemakers for a site that is largely influential in internet conversation
of course that's the reality of the situation

but if you really think that was OP's intention :mjlol: nikka just wanted to shyt on posters who cite pitchfork as the gospel
 
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