Pitchfork has 44 writers only 4 are black.. UPDATE** T.L.O.P 9/10**UPDATE Drogas Wave 6.2

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If Pitchfork is not a hip hop publication, why in the hell are they reviewing hip hop albums? :what:

Do hip hop publications review rock, techno and whatever other bullshyt that they listen to?

exactly!

Due to their http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_circulation their opinions become more prominent to the masses. Think about a decade from now when all we have to go on is Print Media, Award Show Wins, and Album Sales.....What will be the general perception of HIP-HOP during this time period?
 
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They review all type of music, just cause MTV used to show hiphop videos didn't make it a hiphop channel, just cause CNN show sports news doesn't make it a sports channel :what:.

It's a music magazines specializing in indie shyt, i.e. it's "genre less"

But they still throw their "two sense" in about HIP-HOP, and because of their reach and popularity the masses take what they say as gospel.
 

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NO ONE SHOULD. i mADE THIS THREAD TO SHOW HOW EMBARASSING IT IS TO CITE THEM..

but apparently for whatever reason this site and numerous other people cite pithfork to validate kanye/drake rest of that :huhldup: shyt

ex. the thread that inspired this one

this was posted yesterday

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/pitc...2-channel-orange-4-take-care-12.241554/page-5



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I get it, daps on the thread. A lot of these guys are in denial of the hipster dominance of HIP-HOP print media, journalism, etc.

Hipsters have invaded HIP-HOP culture just like they have gentrified Black inner city neighborhoods.
 

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But they still throw their "two sense" in about HIP-HOP, and because of their reach and popularity the masses take what they say as gospel.
No masses take what they say as gospel, there's a crowd of music geeks who do.

If the masses took what they say as gospel, radio would sound dope, certain motherfukkers on their top lists would not have day jobs and most of their highly praised artists would not be people with 5k followers on twitter. They have broke a lot of artists, but it's mostly on an indie scene. Some say they made Lil B, Chief Keef and Young Thug hipster favorites. But hiphop already fukked with those dudes before that happened and we couldn't give two fukks if p4k had said that they didn't fukk with for example Future. The thing is that Future got great response from everyone. They didn't love MCHG it still moved units and the hiphop sites gave it good reviews.


They talk about all types of music and write entertaining reviews, as a hiphop fan I don't really care about their hiphop reviews.
I'm always quick to check the ratings on the stuff they specialize in, with hiphop it's just :leon: so they fukk with this cat, interesting.

I trust their recommendation, if you are a lazy person you might only visit one source for your music recommendation and P4K is quite possibly the best if you like multiple genres. I'm pretty lazy, I use the coli and hiphopdx for hiphop and p4k for everything else.
 

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I get it, daps on the thread. A lot of these guys are in denial of the hipster dominance of HIP-HOP print media, journalism, etc.

Hipsters have invaded HIP-HOP culture just like they have gentrified Black inner city neighborhoods.
The Source was from the hood now? It was two jews at Harvard.

Hiphop was mad hipster in the 80s, black hipsters, white hipsters, downtown NY partying with all the metrosexual freaks, hipsters like Rick Rubin starting our greatest label of all time, college radio putting on rappers and all that type of shyt was "hipster". Then came the gangster rap, the activism, the west with their hits, the south, the acceptance and hiphop grew large as fukk. But the NY based hipsters were always a small part of it, always worked in hiphop whether it was editing magazines, program direction at MTV, rapping like Beastie Boys or those Boston dudes, "real hiphop activists" like Rifkind and them or simply just observers in the parks. They also grew to become the biggest observers of hiphop constituting a vast majority of both shows and record sales.

Can't compare it to gentrification, gentrification is a consequence of economics.
And as we all know, US loves the so called freedom. NY has the most rent control in the country which is straight socialism and "big government", i.e. at least almost half the nations population are all for gentrification. Cats complain about taxes, gas princes and on and yet have the nerve to mention gentrification. Cats pay taxes for the diversity of NYC, and it's not just black areas being gentrified. It's all working class people, which is the real problem. That teachers, hospital staff, firefighters, police, the workers at the docks, restaurant workers etc can't afford to live in an acceptable distance from their jobs.
 
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it was okay when krs one and little brother, just to name a few, were doing that shyt talking about "don't support the commercial shyt that they play on the radio" because they didn't get airplay or no love for the radio BUT folks have a problem when complex does it.


KRS got chitted on for the "real hip-hop" talk.

and little brother's following often gets brushed off because of it.
 
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if you want to know the racial politics of pitchfork. look at their albums of the decade lists. thats their identity to the world. afterall, what does all this music journalism add up to if not to cannonise the music geniuses of our time and for all time. what you listen to and what you like and who you honour says a lot about you does it not?

so not only do black artists overall get the shaft, but white people performing black music get a lot of love. its a double humiliation and disrespect.:ufdup:


lets take a look at their best albums of the 80 list.

what rap album, in your opinion, should be the highest placed rap album? i think we can all agree It Takes A Nation Of Millions is the consensus top rap album of the 80's. or Raising Hell. or Straight Outta Compton. or 3 feet High and Rising.

Nah, pitchfork gave that spot to Beastie Boys. i love the beastie boys. but the biggest and greatest new black music had emerged and in Pitchforks opinion, the best practitioners were 3 white dudes. :stopitslime:

i can understand one or two people on their graduate student cac voting staff genuinely belivening the beasties were the best rap acts out of the 80's, better than PE, Slick Rick, De La Soul, NWA, BDP, LL Cool J, Eric B and Rakim, EPMD etc, but was there no one there to say nah B, not only is it not accurate to place beasties above these legends, but it sends a bad message to the public to yet again, credit white dudes for performing black music, ahead of the black people who originated it. :ohhh:

here is their list.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5882-top-100-albums-of-the-1980s/10/

but maybe that was just an anomaly. well, lets look at the 90's.

we had so many great rap statements in the 90's in album form. PE, De La Soul, Nas, Big, Wu, Rae, Tribe, Snoop, Cube, Outkast, Dre, 2pac.....

which one of these rap albums got the highest spot for their 90's collection? first of all, wasnt a single black artist in their top 10. but rap did get a spot.

and the rap spot went to DJ Shadow. again, i like that album fine, and we can debate its merits compared to the many masterpieces the 90's birthed. but just on a political level. on an optics level. to again credit a cac over the dominant creators was telling.:patrice:

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5923-top-100-albums-of-the-1990s/10/

so for two decades, the best practitioners of the new black music were white. pitchfork are making a statement here with this. its implicit not explicit but its clear.

black people create the music, but it takes a white genius to come and genius the shyt out. like elvis, the beatles and dylan. they needed rythmn & blues to create what they did, but they came up with something which we cacs just happen to think is more genius than chuck berry, little richard, fats domino,ike turner etc. thanks blackies for the raw materials but it needs our intellectual brains to take this shyt next level.

like tarzan calming and controlling the africans.

shyt, look at their 70's list, stevie wonder didnt make the top 10 with all those classics.:snoop:

Sly Stone did but he again was the only black artist. shyt, were black people not making music in the 70's wtf.
:dahell:

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5932-top-100-albums-of-the-1970s/10/




so i am very skeptical of the new found love of all things hip hop over there at pitchfork. just seems a lil too obvious. like all of a sudden rappers topping all their lists. how can good kid mad city be the second best album of the 2010's so far, yet Illmatic is not even sniffing top 20 for the 90's. its damn near the same album did white people music fall off? or what? lol.:comeon:
 
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