Photos of 19th Century Arab Slave Trade of East Africans

[Swagnificent]

@Swagnificent

You should start researching the faces of MONGOLIANS in ancient times.
They had the same type ears and nose as those statues you posted.

And BIG EARS in pharoah times were an honorable thing.
Most africans who are 100% do not have them.

now explain the sphnix please.


that lower jaw prognasthism is a classical black feature.

 

[Swagnificent]

@Canadadry

When did the Egyptians overthrow the Nubians completely?? Do you know?

I see more red colored nubians in this picture than black. In fact the horses are the same color as ramses and the majority of the nubians. all this tells me is that the egyptians like red paint. I don't think it means that is exactly how their skin looked.

 

[Swagnificent]

It's called the CAUCASUS mountains. Orginally called Kaukasus.....
Read my post above this.

I know about the NILE and where it flows.
How bout you finally tell me why NUBIANS didnt speak EGYPTIAN.

why don't the french speak english? your arguments are some of the dumbest i've ever seen.

 

[88m3]

now explain the sphnix please.


that lower jaw prognasthism is a classical black feature.

some say the mother wheel returned to hide the truth

 

[Raptor]

Nv,

 

[Swagnificent]

cushytes are a mixed race.

agreed. never said they weren't mixed. my point was only vis-a-vis the slave trade. from all I've read, oromos were being sold by the habesha not the other way around. also there is little to no involvement with slave trading by the cushytes. those east africans people think were involved in the slave trade were mostly arab/african hybrids (see Tippu Tip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippu_Tip) or as I stated earlier groups like the Benadiri people of Mogadishu.

 

[Raptor]

But-b-but-but Somalis are c00ns.

@isthisreallife




I saw your little slick comment that Slavery in Ethiopia wasn't as bad as in Somalia.

Truth of the matter is, the whole continent was at it...raiding and selling their neighbours. It's unfair and quite pathetic of the usual anti-Somali crowd to paint it as Somali only phenomena.

@Clean Cut your people killed nearly a million black people in 100 days with nothing but machetes...not even guns...machetes. How savage do you have to be to chop men. women AND children up with machetes

That's not c00ning?....

Murking each other because Belgium divided you up to into light skin and dark skin. So pan-African.

Well its the truth
Ethiopias or Abyssinias slavery was highly regulated by the kebra negast aand was restricted to domestic duties. They were essentially servants who had the freedom to live like the average Ethiopian serf except they didnt get paid. o. They also had rights. Im not excusing the Habeshas, but we had a more humane system when compared to anyone else
In the horn and most of the timev it wasnt racially motivated. In fact most slaves were
the oromo and falasha jews who are apart of the same afroasiatic spectrum.

The existence of the latter was sanctioned by the Kebra Nagast, which quoted the Biblical book of Leviticus. This declared: Ethiopian slavery differed from the plantation slavery of North America for example, in that it was essentially domestic. Slaves thus served in the houses of their masters or mistresses, and were not employed to any significant extent for productive purposes, Slaves were thus regarded as members of their owners' family, and were fed, clothed and protected- but not paid any wage, either in kind or cash. They generally roamed around freely and conducted business. Freedom of religion and ethnic culture were also not restricted, they maintained their cultural identity, their names, etc. Slaves in Ethiopia were procured in four main ways.

Some were inherited; either because they were born to a slave belonging to the slave-owning family, or because the master on his demise left them to his heirs. In either case the slaves in question were acquired naturally, at a virtually no expense - and entirely independently of the economists' laws of supply and demand. Other slaves were seized in the course of warfare - which depended on the exigencies of the battlefield - again quite independently of market considerations. Other slaves again were taken in the course of slave-raiding expeditions. Such captures were carried out at very little cost, so that they would only marginally be affected by lave prices. Some other slaves, finally, were purchased. The price of such slaves might at first sight seem to be influenced by economic factors. This was, however, only marginally the case as the majority of slaves were captured in war or in raiding expeditions - with the consequence that the supply of slaves was in general largely independent of demand.

The Ethiopian Slave Trade

The Ethiopian slave trade - unlike that practiced in the New World - was by no means unregulated. On the contrary, the Fetha Nagast prohibited the sale of Christians to non-believers. By the time of Emperor Susneyos, in the early 17th century, it was also established that Christians were not allowed to sell slaves of any faith - though they were allowed to purchase them.


The Fetha Nagast's restriction applied only to Christians - with the result that Muslims were entirely free to sell slaves – and had in fact a virtual monopoly in the business. Islamic paramountcy in the slave trade was reinforced by the fact that slave exports went very largely to Muslim territories, most notably Arabia, Sudan and Egypt, as well as Muslim areas of India.


The Ethiopian slave trade, like other trade, was originally carried out mainly on the basis of barter, for example the exchange of slaves for guns, or with the help of amolé, or bars of rock salt. By the early 18th century increasing use was however also made of Maria Theresa thalers, or dollars. A slave-girl on the trade route to the port of Massawa is said to have exclaimed. "Is it this what serves to purchase children and men?"
Ethiopian slavery differed from that of the West in one other important respect: The Fetha Nagast sought to control - and in a sense to humanise it: by specifying a number of situations in which the slave-owner was obliged to emancipate his or her slave. Market values were to that extent subordinated to moral considerations.

Servants or Slaves as Status Symbols

When servants or slaves - were employed this was largely as a status symbol rather than to meet rationally determined requirements. The middle-class German Protestant missionary Henry Aaron Stern, who came from a more monetary-oriented background, exclaimed in surprise that in the "houses of the great" in Ethiopia the number of "menials" was "literally legion", while even an ordinary respectable merchant or royal officer might employ as many as twenty men and six or seven women.


The above picture was later expanded by the early 20 th century British traveler Herbert Vivian. Astounded by the number of servants he saw in Ethiopia, he declared that "every one" had "as many retainers as possible, who go with him and eat with him as members of his family" " Every retainer", he adds, "has his own duties, and will under no circumstances consent to do any others at all. In a big household one man looks after the tej [i.e. honey wine], and nothing else, another concerns himself only with the guns, another is merely treasurer, another has charge of certain animals. In fact there is an infinite division of labour. Even a small man never goes out of doors without four retainers to accompany him. One carries his gun, another his sword, another his purse, and the fourth, like the man in the Chanson de Malbrook, carries nothing at all. Under no circumstances will they consent to carry parcels. If you take a man with you, buy a small thing and hand it to him to carry, he calls a coolie at once. He will carry your gun, and as many cartridges as is physically possible, but not a bottle or a roll of cloth."

Corvée Labour

Palaces and churches - and many peasants' houses -were traditionally built in Ethiopia on an entirely non-monetary basis, i.e. without making any payment to the builders involved. This was noted by the early 19th century by the British traveler Nathaniel Pearce, who observed: "if a church is to be built, every Christian is ready to carry stones, clay etc. gratis. A case in point was when the ruler of Tegray, Ras Walde Selassie, decided to build a new church. He had his drum beaten in Antalo market, Pearce reports, after which he ordered every man living in Enderta to come with rope and axe to cut down the trees. Everything was done, Pearce explains, "without the assistance of any mechanical device" - and also without any kind of payment to the labourers!

Emperor Tewodros, the 19th century protagonist of modern Ethiopia , likewise built the country's first modern roads, without the use of money. "From early dawn to late at night", recalls a British eye-witness, Henry Blanc, "Theodore was himself at work; with his own hands he removed stones, levelled the ground, or helped to fill up small ravines. No one could leave so long as he was there himself; no one would think of eating, or of rest, while the Emperor showed the example and shared the hardships".


Emperor Menilek, later in the century, likewise participated in cutting down trees at Mount Managasha , and in building the churches at Entoto, and elsewhere. One foreigner who witnessed this was the British traveler Henry Savage Landor. Coming from a country with entirely different traditions - and values - he found Menilek's practice "quaint", and explained: "If he [Menelik] wishes to put up another building, in the Palace for instance, or a church somewhere, he rides out upon his mule and picks up a stone or a piece of wood, which he carries back to the Palace, or to the spot where the erection is to be made. The thousands of soldiers who always follow him must imitate his example, so that by evening plenty of building material is at hand."

compare that to somalias slave trade.....

16th to 20th centuries
Bantu adult and children slaves (referred to collectively as jareer by their Somali masters[13]) were purchased in the slave market exclusively to do undesirable work on plantation grounds.[13] They were made to work in plantations owned by Somalis along the southern Shebelle and Jubba rivers, harvesting lucrative cash crops such as grain and cotton.[14] Bantu slaves toiled under the control of and separately from their Somali patrons.[13]
In terms of legal considerations, Bantu slaves were devalued. Somali social mores strongly discouraged, censured and looked down upon any kind of sexual contact with Bantu slaves. Freedom for these plantation slaves was also often acquired through escape.[13]

As part of a broader practice then common among slave owners in Northeast Africa, some Somali masters in the hinterland near Mogadishu reportedly used to circumcise their female slaves so as to increase the latter's perceived value in the slave market. In 1609, the Portuguese missionary João dos Santos reported that one such group had a "custome to sew up their females, especially their slaves being young to make them unable for conception, which makes these slaves sell dearer, both for their chastitie, and for better confidence which their masters put in them."[15]

In the 1840s, the first fugitive slaves from the Shebelle valley began to settle in the Jubba valley. By the early 1900s, an estimated 35,000 former Bantu slaves had settled there.

The Italian colonial administration abolished slavery in Somalia at the turn of the 20th century. Some Bantu groups, however, remained enslaved well until the 1930s, and continued to be despised and discriminated against by large parts of Somali society.[16]

The Bantus were also conscripted to forced labor on Italian-owned plantations since the Somalis themselves were averse to what they deemed menial labor,[17] and because the Italians viewed the Somalis as racially superior to the Bantu.[13]

“ While upholding the perception of Somalis as distinct from and superior to the European construct of "black Africans", both British and Italian colonial administrators placed the Jubba valley population in the latter category. Colonial discourse described the Jubba valley as occupied by a distinct group of inferior races, collectively identified as the WaGosha by the British and the WaGoscia by the Italians. Colonial authorities administratively distinguished the Gosha as an inferior social category, delineating a separate Gosha political district called Goshaland, and proposing a "native reserve" for the Gosha.[13] ”
Nilotic slaves
In the late 19th century, Somalis also captured other jareer peoples from the coastal regions of Kenya to work for them as slaves and clients. Referred to as the Kore, these Nilo-Saharan Maa-speaking Nilotes were later emancipated by British colonial troops. They subsequently resettled on the Lamu seaboard as fishermen and cultivators. Like many Bantus, the Kore reportedly now speak the Afro-Asiatic Somali language on account of their time in servitude.[18]

 

[dennis roadman]

@Blackking

you can speak and/or write coptic or did i read that wrong?

 

[EthioLady]

see what I mean. and then these idiots have the nerve to ask me why I think they're the most uncle tom within the race. Its so sad, some of them don't even consider themselves black, they call Somali itself a race. What a bunch of delusional uncle ruckus'.

I respect Ethiopians far more, they never try distance themselves from continent, they have pride in being african.

Thank you for respecting us Ethiopian but you clearly don't know what you are talking about, some of us Ethiopians hate Black people with a passion.

 

[EthioLady]

all that shyt goes both ways to be fair horners saying there not black non horners refusing to claim them
lets not single anyone out and just call those who do it stupid fukks

It is very much true, horners are all in the same boat.

 

[1stPick]

see what I mean. and then these idiots have the nerve to ask me why I think they're the most uncle tom within the race. Its so sad, some of them don't even consider themselves black, they call Somali itself a race. What a bunch of delusional uncle ruckus'.

I respect Ethiopians far more, they never try distance themselves from continent, they have pride in being african.

Actually, Ethiopians are extremely racist towards blacks/people with West African features

Blacks/West Africans are hated by everyone xD

 

[EthioLady]

Can someone explain how Ethiopia has gotten so much admixture? I know about 5 Ethiopians and they all look like the first two pics. One of the ethiopian girls just looked "light skinned" on first glance with sharp features, then i found out her dad was Pakistani Yet she still claims Ethiopian. Two of the five look even more arab or w/e they're mixed with. Someone drop some knowledgeI need to know the truth

Ethiopia has a diverse mix of ethnic and linguistic backgrounds, there are almost 84 different ethnic groups each with its own language, culture, custom and tradition.

 

[EthioLady]

The ethiopian you met is from a tribe called the "habesha" from the northern highlands. The habesha are a mullato race descended from native black ethiopians and semetic people from the middle east. they control ethiopia right now politically eventhough they are not the majority ethnic group. most native ethiopians are actually very dark and are not mixed. the ethiopians you met is a result of selection bias. because the habesha are politically dominant, you see more of them outside of ethiopia.

Who told you that lie? We are not a mullato race and most of us Habesha look like this woman.

And less than 1% of us Habesha look like this woman.

Don't be fooled by the photoshopped picutres on many online discussion forums.

 

[iBrowse]

@KOOL-AID


(I'm putting it on your tab)

 

[Raptor]

Who told you that lie? We are not a mullato race and most of us Habesha look like this woman.

Don't be fooled by the photoshopped picutres on many online discussion forums.

habeshas range colour not to mention many dark cushyte assimilated into the amhara identity/culture after the oromo migration and the subsequent fukkery which is why youll find more lighter habeshas in Tigray and Eritrea than central Ethiopia.