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Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread
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Knicksman20
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so i can assume you are of the ppl that wanted melo gone from last season?
this guys the best player weve had since patrick ewing and got us to the second for the first in ten years
hes far from perfect but he has proven he can do well when he has the right mixture of players around him
why not build around that
it confuses the hell out of me as to why so many knick fans are so quick to dismiss him like hes a scrub
i still remember when fans wanted him out and wanted to build aroun jeremy lin
hes never played with another allstar in his prime, dont ppl think that may have something to do win him not having a ring
the lack of support just confuses me
i'm in no rush to go back to the days where toney douglas and wilson chandler are our best players
Dude sounds like one of those resentful cac Knick fans that still resents Melo for getting their precious Gallinari traded away
Demanding double teams getting other players open.
Dude has never averaged 5apg despite having one of the highest usage rates in NBA history, it ain't like he's finding people off doubles
KrisP put Okafor on that Summer Jam Screen
...that's my Knicka
And, Big-Up that Real African Indoor-oops-I-meant Ndour
We all know melo ain't likely the one to pass but can we agree that he hasn't had teammates that would be affective with that ball once he passes it out of the double team?Dude has never averaged 5apg despite having one of the highest usage rates in NBA history, it ain't like he's finding people off doubles
KnickstapeCity
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Bruh,
This is the silliest argument ever. It's a team sport. You're supposed to trust and believe in your teammates.
The problem with this line of thinking is that every other dude that has a similar usage has played with shytty teammates at one time or another, and all have topped 5apg. He has the 5th highest rate in NBA history, the two other dudes in the top 10 that never averaged 5apg are Gervin and Wilkins, great players but career losers that never should have teams built around them
Melo has played with Nene, Afflalo, Billups (semi prime in Denver) and Iverson so it's not like he's always been with bums.
You clearly are just hating . Melo isn't a point guard his job is to score and when you have a bunch of inaccurate teammates who can't capitalize off your double team your not going to have a lot of assists . Melo passes the ball and outside of jr and. Timmy everyone else is hesitating to score . Melo passed the ball to Jared Jeffries to win a playoff game and got blamed for not shooting . The guy can't win . Cp3 is suppose to be making all his teammates better yet DJ can't stand him and he's never been as far as Melo in the playoffs . Bron always needs more help for some reason yet Melo should just be making his team of scrubs better through his will . Durant has Westbrook and Ibaka but he also needs more help . Why is Melo held to some standard and at the same time all you people say is how he's not that good .The problem with this line of thinking is that every other dude that has a similar usage has played with shytty teammates at one time or another, and all have topped 5apg. He has the 5th highest rate in NBA history, the two other dudes in the top 10 that never averaged 5apg are Gervin and Wilkins, great players but career losers that never should have teams built around them
Melo has played with Nene, Afflalo, Billups (semi prime in Denver) and Iverson so it's not like he's always been with bums.
really the Knicks didn't have the best team mates since Melo been here . You haven't seen Melo passing the ball only for shump or Felton or Kidd or prigs to kick it out again or for jr and Timmy to do dumb shyt.Bruh,
This is the silliest argument ever. It's a team sport. You're supposed to trust and believe in your teammates.
KrisP put Okafor on that Summer Jam Screen
...that's my Knicka
And, Big-Up that Real African Indoor-oops-I-meant Ndour
Always with the excuses, Melo has the ball in his hands more than a lot of PGs in the NBA, just because he's not a PG doesn't excuse him. His game itself is not suited to setting people up, instead of skirting around the obvious just say that, stop trying to pass the blame to his teammates. How can you build an effective team around someone that doesn't set people up yet has the ball in his hands a ridiculous amount of time? No matter how many excuses you come up with, a dude taking 20 shots per game over his career and only averaging 3.1apg is pathetic and speaks volumes about his game itself.
He has the 5th highest usage rate in NBA history, of the top 5 he has the lowest assist total by far, PERIOD. The only person in the top 10 for usage rate that averaged less APG was George Gervin, a dude that much like Melo took a shytload of shots while his teammates just stood around watching him. I cannot understand why Melo gets so many excuses, Kobe was killed for the same thing and during his prime he was a much better passer than Melo.
JMurder
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That was a team not at all built by Jackson though. There was enough talent to hope for a playoff berth but everyone played awful and there were too many low iq players for the triangle. I don't think it's fair to shyt on Phil. Name a move from last season that you didn't approve of.but he let him do that the first year, a year he promised a playoff birth and we ended up having the worst record in franchise history
not "caring less" what your star player has to say has never worked out anywhere on any team
And that last part of your post is projection on your part. I can name examples of caring what your star player wants turning into said star player leaving the team anyway
