Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

[Harleminthe80s]

I remember when we signed J Smith just last year. I was like great pick up can make a mid range shot at a decent clip



Then he played

 

[BAMBA]

The triangle might be good for him...I always thought he was an underrated passer.

 

[onelastdeath]

And the overrating begins, he's a bust no matter how you slice it, doesn't matter if you drafted him or not the reason he's coming to the Knicks for $5 million a year is because he's a bust.

He's a decent rotational player, far from "good" and what he gets on offense he typically gives up on defense. We talking about a dude that couldn't win the starting job over Jason Thompson....

What more are we asking him to be than a decent rotational player though? That's my point. He's good. no one in the NBA is "far from good".

If he can average 10/5 off the bench, I'm happy with that. He's a bust for what he was supposed to be, but doesn't haven on be a bust for us.

 

[CapitalOne]

 

[ThaBronxBully]

I Don't Expect Much Outta Him But Cut The Guy Some Slack, He's Been On The Wolves And Kings lol I'm Hoping We Can Get 10 Points Out Of Him lol

 

[Malta]

What more are we asking him to be than a decent rotational player though? That's my point. He's good. no one in the NBA is "far from good".

If he can average 10/5 off the bench, I'm happy with that. He's a bust for what he was supposed to be, but doesn't haven on be a bust for us.

In comparison to starting NBA PFs he's far from good, which is why he doesn't start


The Knicks are probably going to start him

 

[Costanza]

What more are we asking him to be than a decent rotational player though? That's my point. He's good. no one in the NBA is "far from good".

If he can average 10/5 off the bench, I'm happy with that. He's a bust for what he was supposed to be, but doesn't haven on be a bust for us.

thats a self defeating argument, were not arguing whether 'nba players are good at basketball'... were talking about how players match up against others in the league... and up to this point, derrick williams has been a below average player aka 'hes not good'

50% of ball is defense, unless youre dirk nowitzki, u cant be just playing at one end of the court.

 

[tremonthustler1]

On one hand u look at williams size, skill set and the stats he put up in college and u figure he has to put up at least 15 10.

On the other hand this nikkas averaged 4.3 rpg for his career
Lets hope he figures it out. I'd be happy with 10 6. Gonna need him to hit the boards hard if he plays the 4.
5 mill is a bit much but the potential is there and it's only 2 years.

His rebounding will forever suck, but I remember him filling in for Love and he held it down. He depends on a good guard but he'll function with Calderon

 

[JMurder]

His rebounding will forever suck, but I remember him filling in for Love and he held it down. He depends on a good guard but he'll function with Calderon

 

[ogc163]

No defense playing bum better not start. The road to the 1st round exit begins.

 

[#1 pick]

The Knicks had a good free agency. Just as good as ours... but we aren't done yet

 

[Illuminatos]

No defense playing bum better not start. The road to the 1st round exit begins.

Knicks losing in the 1st round would be a successful season.

 

[#1 pick]

He's had plenty of chances, dude is a bust.

Since you wonder why, he's too small to guard PFs effectively and he's not quick enough to defend SFs. That is why he has struggled so much in his career.

In all fairness, he never had a good weakside defender since he's been in the NBA while playing at PF.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Zach LaVine was LAST among PG's by a point and a half yet the Coli thinks he's Russell Westbrook DeBarge, so

 

[Wargames]

The Knicks had a good free agency. Just as good as ours... but we aren't done yet

What did you guys do besides trade for Hardaway and lose Carroll