Personally, what do you think of Affirmative Action?

[Brown_Pride]

In Arizona how would you feel if your only chance of getting a job was through someone of the same ethnic background as yourself?

in arizona i don't normally put my ethnicity for fear of the opposite...it's arizona afterall

I don't mind getting a job over someone on color if i'm qualified for it. If i'm not though then

that's all i'm saying.

 

[Shogun]

like most of you have said....

its good in theory, poor in practice. Similar to pretty much everything in this country.

 

[Zach Lowe]

In theory I can't fokk with it

I guess it's not that bad though

But I'm not sure that it really helps because not many people take advantage of it and it devalues achievements ("he only got that admit/job offer cuz he's black/hispanic/etc.")

 

[Young_and_Reckless]

Just curious, does the department of labor actually enforce this ? And how so? Do they go to each small business and require companies to list out applicants of 'color', etc.? I can probably see them doing this to large corporations, but not small businesses, which employ the vast majority.

Not trolling btw.

 

[PortCityProphet]

im for it cause it means more than white men will be hired. it's not perfect but it's better than nothing. wish it would do more to help more blacks but what can you do

 

[Brown_Pride]

Just curious, does the department of labor actually enforce this ? And how so? Do they go to each small business and require companies to list out applicants of 'color', etc.? I can probably see them doing this to large corporations, but not small businesses, which employ the vast majority.

Not trolling btw.

U.S. Department of Labor - Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) - Executive Order 11246

Each Government contractor with 50 or more employees and $50,000 or more in government contracts is required to develop a written affirmative action program (AAP) for each of its establishments.
A written affirmative action program helps the contractor identify and analyze potential problems in the participation and utilization of women and minorities in the contractor's workforce.
If there are problems, the contractor will specify in its AAP the specific procedures it will follow and the good faith efforts it will make to provide equal employment opportunity.
Expanded efforts in outreach, recruitment, training and other areas are some of the affirmative steps contractors can take to help members of the protected groups compete for jobs on equal footing with other applicants and employees.
ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE
Compliance Reviews
OFCCP conducts compliance reviews to investigate the employment practices of Government contractors. During a compliance review, a compliance officer examines the contractor's affirmative action program; checks personnel, payroll, and other employment records; interviews employees and company officials; and investigates virtually all aspects of employment in the company.
The investigator also checks to see whether the contractor is making special efforts to achieve equal opportunity through affirmative action. If problems are discovered, OFCCP will recommend corrective action and suggest ways to achieve equal employment opportunity.

so super small business no and only government contractors. If you want to do business with the government AA is a must.

FYI the government pays contractors well.

 

[88m3]

U.S. Department of Labor - Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) - Executive Order 11246


so super small business no and only government contractors. If you want to do business with the government AA is a must.

FYI the government pays contractors well.

Thanks for pointing this out a lot of people in here obviously don't even know what aa is.

 

[the cac mamba]

like communism

looks good on paper but just an awful idea when you put it in motion

 

[TYBG]

If they're qualified, there's no problem. I'm all for it.

 

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

affirmative action helps white women the most

I tried to explain this to a homie and dude just didn't get it lol.

 

[Zach Lowe]

I tried to explain this to a homie and dude just didn't get it lol.

doesn't that just mean that black men and women aren't close enough to meeting qualifications to even benefit from an AA boost (meaning the boost given by AA doesn't get them past the tipping point)

I don't know why anyone would take pride in that statement, assuming it is true

 

[FaTaL]

it's a good idea but needs to be reworked.



how so?

helps anybody who isnt a white male, white women take advantage of it the most

 

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

doesn't that just mean that black men and women aren't close enough to meeting qualifications to even benefit from an AA boost (meaning the boost given by AA doesn't get them past the tipping point)

I don't know why anyone would take pride in that statement, assuming it is true

Nah I was just pointing it out to him cuz dude was all "it's our fault we ain't shyt, we need to stop looking for shortcuts and handouts like affirmative action, etc" ...

You'll be surprised how many people believe affirmative action is just "for the blacks".

 

[Serious]

..

You'll be surprised how many people believe welfare, foodstamps, affirmative action and any other type of government aid is just "for the blacks".

fixed..

 

[zerozero]

I think it's hard to justify but i'm not necessarily against it. e.g. I wouldn't create such a system but if such a system exists I wouldn't remove it, I'd work with it