Personally, what do you think of Affirmative Action?

[babylon1]

Why is it bullshyt? And what does AA have to do with being a minority? This is the problem. AA, as conceived by Lyndon B. Johnson, was never supposed to be about Mexicans or other minorities. It was meant for blacks, period. The only reason AA looks the way it is today is because some benevolent cac leaders have had to change it to appease the angry cac masses. That's it. This is a cac country and so if cacs overwhelmingly don't like something--especially something which they feel hurts their personal ambitions--they will find a way to overturn it eventually.

There was the motherfukking New Deal which gave these cacs free education, houses, jobs, training, etc and nobody gave a fukk.

turn your censorship off breh.

it's shyt. not shyt.

it is bullshyt because it is based on race and gender. it should be based on economics only. aa programs should be for poor people of all races. men, women, hermaphrodites. black, yellow, white, red.

 

[godkiller]

I'm not talking about equality among competitors. I'm talking about the race itself being unbiased. The rules being fair/just. That's it.
The competitors and the results of the competition are what they are.

If the Asian competitors outperform Middle Eastern competitors, then Middle Easterners need to work harder. I don't want the rules of the race slanted to favor them so that the results are more pleasing to the eye.

If the rules were fair everywhere then discrimination and ghettos wouldn't exist. But they do and they are real, and I feel like AA fights that by putting some black people in a better position to succeed, similar to the way the New Deal put WW2 veterans in a better position to succeed. Maybe AA needs to focus only on poor blacks, not rich ones. And on dark skins rather than these high caste mixed people who take advantage of AA and don't need it.

 

[godkiller]

turn your censorship off breh.

it's shyt. not shyt.

it is bullshyt because it is based on race and gender. it should be based on economics only. aa programs should be for poor people of all races. men, women, hermaphrodites. black, yellow, white, red.

And what is discrimination and the fukking ghetto and the rest centred around? Isn't it race? So why the fukk shouldn't AA be about race? I understand where you're comig from --discrimination is wrong--but I think AA should have a special exemption. I feel like minorities who come to the States shouldn't be trying to change shyt. They shouldn't come here under the cover of civil rights and then turn around be like, "fukk discrimination! fukk the blacks!". Buy businesses with money from their home countries and refuse to hire blacks because that's what fukking goes on.

 

[babylon1]

And what is discrimination and the fukking ghetto and the rest centred around? Isn't it race? So why the fukk shouldn't AA be about race? I understand where you're comig from --discrimination is wrong--but I think AA should have a special exemption. I feel like minorities who come to the States shouldn't be trying to change shyt. They shouldn't come here under the cover of civil rights and then turn around be like, "fukk discrimination! fukk the blacks!".

breh, i have plenty of poor white friends. this evil economic system did them no favors. in fact it is screwing them more than poor minorities merely because of AA. imagine growing up poor and white. no AA for you. just poverty and a reduced chance of finding decent paying employment. no minority scholarships. no sympathy.

 

[theworldismine13]

If the rules were fair everywhere then discrimination and ghettos wouldn't exist. But they do and they are real, and I feel like AA fights that by putting some black people in a better position to succeed, similar to the way the New Deal put WW2 veterans in a better position to succeed. Maybe AA needs to focus only on poor blacks, not rich ones. And on dark skins rather than these high caste mixed people who take advantage of AA and don't need it.

so lets be real, you dont have any real economic ideas, you heard some white people had an idea and you jumped on it and now you think its the key to economic success, in other words you have been bamboozled by white liberals

 

[godkiller]

breh, i have plenty of poor white friends. this evil economic system did them no favors. in fact it is screwing them more than poor minorities merely because of AA. imagine growing up poor and white. no AA for you. just poverty and a reduced chance of finding decent paying employment. no minority scholarships. no sympathy.

They get white privilege which is AA enough. I rarely see a cop "accidently" kill a white man, poor or not. The courts treat poor white men better than poor blacks. An employer will give a poor white woman named Sally a job before a poor black woman named Shaquisha. Poor whites don't live in ghettos and as soon as they get their shyt together they're treated the same as other whites. So no I don't believe the "evil economic system" preys on blacks and whites the same way, and there's no evidence which says it does. I would if things were equal and everyone was the same, but breh this isn't the reality. Poor people of any ethnicity are not the problem. It's the policies which govern this nation.

 

[godkiller]

so lets be real, you dont have any real economic ideas, you heard some white people had an idea and you jumped on it and now you think its the key to economic success, in other words you have been bamboozled by white liberals

What "white people idea" have I jumped on? What are you talking about? Did I say AA "is the key to economic success"? No, those are your words. I implied it's a positive that puts some blacks in a better position, that's all. That is not the same as saying "AA is the key to economic success". And as for my ideas, I believe in your charter school idea and take back what I said about black improvement. There are significant improvements in some pockets of the country with respects to alternative schools and I do foresee improvment, but I don't believe that improvement will significantly change the outlook of the United States in 10 years.

 

[mrken12]

It's just an extension of white privilege.

 

[godkiller]

It's just an extension of white privilege.

Explain how AA is an extension of white privilege. Mayne I'm done here. Yall are lost. If it was an extension of white privilege, wouldn't they support it?

 

[babylon1]

They get white privilege which is AA enough. I rarely see a cop "accidently" kill a white man, poor or not. The courts treat poor white men better than poor blacks. An employer will give a poor white woman named Sally a job before a poor black woman named Shaquisha. Poor whites don't live in ghettos and as soon as they get their shyt together they're treated the same as other whites. So no I don't believe the "evil economic system" preys on blacks and whites the same way, and there's no evidence which says it does. I would if things were equal and everyone was the same, but breh this isn't the reality. Poor people of any ethnicity are not the problem. It's the policies which govern this nation.

white privilege is no longer meaningful, bruh. it's 2013. what is important is your level of attractiveness. you want to be fit, stylish and sexy. that is what gets you hired. race is not meaningless but it has never meant less and you know it. if your parents named you shaquisha then get a damn name change to Sharon.

 

[godkiller]

white privilege is no longer meaningful, bruh. it's 2013. what is important is your level of attractiveness. you want to be fit, stylish and sexy. that is what gets you hired. race is not meaningless but it has never meant less and you know it. if your parents named you shaquisha then get a damn name change to Sharon0.

If you say so breh. I'm done. Why should black people have to change their damn names, what the fukk is this

 

[babylon1]

If you say so breh. I'm done. Why should black people have to change their damn names, what the fukk is this

if we lived in a socialist society they would not have to. unfortunately you are for sale in a capitalist society. that means you have to be marketable. this is hell

 

[DEAD7]

If the rules were fair everywhere then discrimination and ghettos wouldn't exist. But they do and they are real, and I feel like AA fights that by putting some black people in a better position to succeed, similar to the way the New Deal put WW2 veterans in a better position to succeed. Maybe AA needs to focus only on poor blacks, not rich ones. And on dark skins rather than these high caste mixed people who take advantage of AA and don't need it.

Never said the rules were fair(they aren't), I just want fair rules to be the goal, not results pleasing to the self anointed.

Interesting suggestion on AA lol, although I think without access to the human capital looked for today, no amount of government intervention will move us forward(dark or light skinned). In fact I think further intervention will hurt us just as the intervention before it has...
tell me what reason do we have to think otherwise?

 

[DEAD7]

if we lived in a socialist society they would not have to. unfortunately you are for sale in a capitalist society. that means you have to be marketable. this is hell

You should do some traveling if you believe that...

 

[MostReal]

Why is it bullshyt? And what does AA have to do with being a minority? This is the problem. AA, as conceived by Lyndon B. Johnson, was never supposed to be about Mexicans or other minorities. It was meant for blacks, period. The only reason AA looks the way it is today is because some benevolent cac leaders have had to change it to appease the angry cac masses. That's it. This is a cac country and so if cacs overwhelmingly don't like something--especially something which they feel hurts their personal ambitions--they will find a way to overturn it eventually.

There was the motherfukking New Deal which gave these cacs free education, houses, jobs, training, etc and nobody gave a fukk.

these dudes have NO IDEA what's going on in this country regarding black folks. They are lost man, simply lost