People are realizing getting a trade instead of a degree succs ass in the long run
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#BOTHSIDES
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Didn’t robots replace a lot ppl at car manufacturing plants?
OnlyOneBoss
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Nah you're absolutely right breh and I been trying to tell people.
Lawyers, engineers, and doctors are very safe and profitable careers BUT none of them are going to be making the crazy money we hear/associate with their careers until about 40. Big Law lawyers and software developers are exceptions, but Big Law kills your soul, and SWE is oversaturated, and I expect a huge dip in salaries soon.
Fresh out of college an engineer is looking at around 65k, I'd say MAX 75k for the most part. And it's going to be about 10 years before they hit 6 figures.
Doctors go through med school and then residency and they only getting like 70k WHILE working crazy hours for four years, 100s of thousands in debt but they can 100% make at least 200k once they finish that. One of my homeboys 7 years deep at a company I won't name, and he's not even making 90k right now. He travels a lot and does cool shyt but it's not the bread people told him it would be (yet).
Lawyers make the most money right out the gate, fresh out of law school once they pass the bar, but their salary progression is slower, and doctors immediately pass them after residency/fellowship is over. Unless they want to chase the bag forever, most lawyers top out around 200k and coast through their late careers.
A hard science (bio, chem, physics, etc) and a grad degree is a good move but the caveat is you are competing with legit geniuses every single day. But once you get established they have unlimited growth potential. An expert in these fields get 100-200k research roles basically thrown at them.
Two of my friends are married, homeboy a mechanical engineer and his wife is a marine biologist in a very niche field.... she's helping HIM pay off his student loans
..... but she knows in 10 years he better make up for it 
Also just to throw in, these fields also value your name and the story you've written in your career. A biologist that discovered a new species, a chemist that creates a new (useful) compound, a lawyer that put a serial killer in prison. Clout matters. I have personally met a woman that was an early engineer in a company, she has no LinkedIn, no socials, 1 email account, and she makes 400k a year WFH doing research on something
her day is whatever she wants it to be. I honestly think she's goes a week without actually working sometimes. The dream life
The BasedFather
Task Force
Man, you gotta be on your knees all day
squatting in front of a furnace or condensers. Crawling through crawl spaces or cramped in attics. Even with knee pads my knees were going south and I was in my early 20’s. Add in those big ass boots that suck for you and carrying a heavy tool bag and it’s a wrap.
IIVI
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To be fair, those are really good problems to have.Nah you're absolutely right breh and I been trying to tell people.
Lawyers, engineers, and doctors are very safe and profitable careers BUT none of them are going to be making the crazy money we hear/associate with their careers until about 40. Big Law lawyers and software developers are exceptions, but Big Law kills your soul, and SWE is oversaturated, and I expect a huge dip in salaries soon.
Fresh out of college an engineer is looking at around 65k, I'd say MAX 75k for the most part. And it's going to be about 10 years before they hit 6 figures.
Doctors go through med school and then residency and they only getting like 70k WHILE working crazy hours for four years, 100s of thousands in debt but they can 100% make at least 200k once they finish that. One of my homeboys 7 years deep at a company I won't name, and he's not even making 90k right now. He travels a lot and does cool shyt but it's not the bread people told him it would be (yet).
Lawyers make the most money right out the gate, fresh out of law school once they pass the bar, but their salary progression is slower, and doctors immediately pass them after residency/fellowship is over. Unless they want to chase the bag forever, most lawyers top out around 200k and coast through their late careers.
A hard science (bio, chem, physics, etc) and a grad degree is a good move but the caveat is you are competing with legit geniuses every single day. But once you get established they have unlimited growth potential. An expert in these fields get 100-200k research roles basically thrown at them.
Two of my friends are married, homeboy a mechanical engineer and his wife is a marine biologist in a very niche field.... she's helping HIM pay off his student loans
Also just to throw in, these fields also value your name and the story you've written in your career. A biologist that discovered a new species, a chemist that creates a new (useful) compound, a lawyer that put a serial killer in prison. Clout matters. I have personally met a woman that was an early engineer in a company, she has no LinkedIn, no socials, 1 email account, and she makes 400k a year WFH doing research on something
The company my in-law recently retired from still has engineers working there nearly around 70 years old stacking bank.
Making money when you’re young is great, but still being valuable and even most valuable to a company when you’re older is fine wine.
You have a lot of time to make money when you’re young, but as you get older some people have a lot more trouble. Nearly all of those jobs mentioned are constant high pay from 40-80 years old.
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International Playa
Playa with a Passport
You don't want to be working manual labour physical, back breaking jobs in your late 40s, 50s, 60s etc
Gritsngravy
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And for all my pro blacks out there, in theory you can take a group of black tradesmens and engineers and build the infrastructure in Africa
That’s honestly the move for African countries to really make moves, you can add certain Latin American countries to that too
This is one of the main reasons why you want black Americans to be as educated as possible, Africans not confused by this some just have trouble wanting to go back home once they get said education
That’s honestly the move for African countries to really make moves, you can add certain Latin American countries to that too
This is one of the main reasons why you want black Americans to be as educated as possible, Africans not confused by this some just have trouble wanting to go back home once they get said education
I would say yes but wasn't that back in the 80s?
#BOTHSIDES
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Robots replacing cashiers, I see robots cleaning floors now. They got 3D printing for construction now. Only a matter of time.
Robotics is a trade in itself. There will always be a need for trade/engineering brehs in any form of manufacturing.
Nah you're absolutely right breh and I been trying to tell people.
Lawyers, engineers, and doctors are very safe and profitable careers BUT none of them are going to be making the crazy money we hear/associate with their careers until about 40. Big Law lawyers and software developers are exceptions, but Big Law kills your soul, and SWE is oversaturated, and I expect a huge dip in salaries soon.
Fresh out of college an engineer is looking at around 65k, I'd say MAX 75k for the most part. And it's going to be about 10 years before they hit 6 figures.
Doctors go through med school and then residency and they only getting like 70k WHILE working crazy hours for four years, 100s of thousands in debt but they can 100% make at least 200k once they finish that. One of my homeboys 7 years deep at a company I won't name, and he's not even making 90k right now. He travels a lot and does cool shyt but it's not the bread people told him it would be (yet).
Lawyers make the most money right out the gate, fresh out of law school once they pass the bar, but their salary progression is slower, and doctors immediately pass them after residency/fellowship is over. Unless they want to chase the bag forever, most lawyers top out around 200k and coast through their late careers.
A hard science (bio, chem, physics, etc) and a grad degree is a good move but the caveat is you are competing with legit geniuses every single day. But once you get established they have unlimited growth potential. An expert in these fields get 100-200k research roles basically thrown at them.
Two of my friends are married, homeboy a mechanical engineer and his wife is a marine biologist in a very niche field.... she's helping HIM pay off his student loans
Also just to throw in, these fields also value your name and the story you've written in your career. A biologist that discovered a new species, a chemist that creates a new (useful) compound, a lawyer that put a serial killer in prison. Clout matters. I have personally met a woman that was an early engineer in a company, she has no LinkedIn, no socials, 1 email account, and she makes 400k a year WFH doing research on something
I'm not here to hate on STEM degrees at all; I'm just tired of the trade slander thats BS people spread on here.
Honestly it takes a certain type to do either.
The people who get paid the most can do BOTH.
the best engineers I've ever worked with have a trade background.
Just to clarify I'm not talking about computer science or whatever I don't know shyt about that; whole other thing.
I'm talking civil/mechanical/electrical.
And IRL I've dealt with some of these nose in the air engineers; they never can back it up.
I dealt with a kid one time that was making my life real difficult and I had enough of being accommodating and strictly started openly referring him to red pen.
It caught on and the kid was beyond furious.
I bought like 20 boxes of red pens and put them in the trailer he was in.
He's lucky I wasn't a dikkhead cause I could have easily just ran with it and FUKKED everyone.
Some people will do that BS.
They'll be like we just just followed the drawings and specs
It'd make my life a lot easier if more STEM brehs had a different attitude and perspective. Because we have to collaborate 2 be on time and on budget.
I don't think they teach that in school tho
Insensitive
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I'm interviewing for a role in one day that pays 60+ bucks an hour.I'm a degreed Engineer, I'm eatin' like that.
Depends on who you work for, what you do and how hard it is to get into it.
Supply and demand rules everything.
Full time with the opportunity for bonuses and additional work hours on top of that.
Education pays man.
if I hit this lick, I can push out getting the master's degree and I hit my $150k goal earlier
without becoming a manager (just yet).
Education isn't a waste IMO and this is coming from someone who used to turn wrenches and relied
on Blue Collar work.
OnlyOneBoss
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Life is either a physical grind or a mental grind but at the end, you still gon die
Facts
but at the end, you still gon dieFacts