Peak Dwight Howard vs Alonzo Mourning

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Does Alonzo carry that awful Magic team to the finals though?

Maybe
I dont think it was strong enough to win a chip regaddless but they were a contender with dwight and id figure with zo they would still be contenders

 

[Remote]

I'll take Alonzo.

The Centers that Alonzo had to go against were much better than the Centers Dwight goes against.

 

[GilSho]

Maybe
I dont think it was strong enough to win a chip regaddless but they were a contender with dwight and id figure with zo they would still be contenders

No way does a Zo led team beat LeBron in the manner Dwight did.

 

[GilSho]

Posters doing their best to discredit Dwight's final run but God forbid anyone questions the Warriors diluted competition last season.

 

[Remote]

Posters doing their best to discredit Dwight's final run but God forbid anyone questions the Warriors diluted competition last season.

The Warriors title was diluted.
They didn't play a single elite team in the entire playoffs. And they probably don't beat any of the Lakers or Spurs championship teams of the 2000s. And probably not even the '08 Celtics.

 

[eastside313]

Dwight the better natural athelte, and better on the boards..they stats on par so cant say who the better player is but Zo the better defender imo and has heart...Howard a hoe ass nikka.

You can't just look at stats and say their stats are on par. Zo was a legitimate #1 offensive option.

 

[Brandon M.]

this thread is terribly disrespectful to Alonzo

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

fukk it i'll take Dwight.

Dwight before the back injuries coached by Stan Van was a monster. Anybody says otherwise just dont like him cause he got bytchmade tendencies

 

[KingOFKings]

You guys are on crack...peak Dwight was a top 3-5 player in the league. Zo was never considered a top 5 player in the league at any point of his career.

You're forgetting how dominant he was in the late 2000's with Orlando already? This legacy bs has to stop tainting your views

 

[Originalman]

Dwight put up offensive numbers against worse big men, why do you just keep glossing over that? Zo didn't need shooters at 4 other positions just to give him room to get off post moves, how much more do you think Zo would have scored with the spacing Dwight had


How was Zo's rookie year his best year? He averaged better numbers the following year and put up 23/10/3/2/1 another year. Dwight wouldn't do shyt against Patrick Ewing and you know it, this nikka is averaging 13ppg over his entire career against Marc Gasol

What do you think he'd do against Deke, Shaq, Ewing, Smits, Willis, Robinson, Hakeem etc. He has shown time and time again he cannot deal with 7 footers that are either strong enough to keep him off his spot, or quick enough to beat him to spots.

Don't forget or tall enough. Because he always struggled against bigger centers like Yao.

But Zo had a better overall game. He had the hook with either hand. Could knock down the shot consistently from 18-20 feet. Could put the ball on the floor and dribble (which Dwight still can't do without losing the ball).

Zo was also a better shot blocker and bigger centers did not bother him. The reason the bigger centers did not bother Zo (unlike Dwight) was because Zo had a bigger lower base (legs were stronger) he was an inch taller (6-10 to Dwight's 6-9) and Zo had the arm length of a player that was 7 ft tall or taller. That is why Zo was so effective at the center position.

I think Zo biggest physical advantage was his arm length. He could finish at the rim without gathering himself. If you watch Dwight he always has to gather himself to either dunk or lay the ball up. Zo (Duncan also) did not have this problem because of arm length.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

You guys are on crack...peak Dwight was a top 3-5 player in the league. Zo was never considered a top 5 player in the league at any point of his career.

You're forgetting how dominant he was in the late 2000's with Orlando already? This legacy bs has to stop tainting your views

His defensive impact alone. I live in Orlando, so the only games we get unless it's nationally televised are magic games. Dwight was a fukking terror before his back injury. Averaging seemingly at least 13 boards a night, swatting or chasing away everyone and everything. Guy was unreal. Most big men are shytty at the line though. As is he still shoots 5% better at the line than Shaq did, so we should keep in perspective how bad some centers are at the line. His post game isn't anything special, but the way the game is played and officiated these days, you can't dump the ball of on the low block and let your center isolate like it was before zone defenses. Howard peaked at 22.9 points/14.1 rebounds(4 offensive)/ 1.4 assists/ 1.4 steals/ and 2.4 blocks a game with 3.6 turnovers a night shooting 59.3% from the field and 59.6% at the line. Alonzo peaked at 20.1 points/ 11 rebounds (3.6 offensive)/ 1.6 assists/ 0.7 steals/ 3.9 blocks/ 3 turnovers per game while shooting 51.1% from the field and 65.2% at the line. He was defensive player of the year twice compared to 3 for Howard. Looking at all of these, I would say at his peak, Dwight might have been a more impactful player. Offensively though no doubt Alonzo had a more well rounded game. His foul shooting fell off hard after leaving the hornets for some reason though. Went from the high 70's to mid 60's.

 

[itsyoung!!]

How was Dwight better for spacing when Zo could do everything he could do in addition to being able to hit a 15 footer?

Zo was an excellent interior defender, he had to guard bigs that could score on their own and still protect the paint. There's virtually no chance Dwight would have been able defend Ewing and still play defense at the level he did, don't look past the fact he basically didn't have to guard anyone.

dwight howards DPOY are the biggest bs awards given in past 15 years in the NBA. Everytime he won im like who is he defending


its no coincidence that the NBA got some decent bigs now compared to 10 years ago and he hasnt won since this new wave of pf/c's entered

 

[itsyoung!!]

You guys are on crack...peak Dwight was a top 3-5 player in the league. Zo was never considered a top 5 player in the league at any point of his career.

You're forgetting how dominant he was in the late 2000's with Orlando already? This legacy bs has to stop tainting your views

the word dominant and dwight howard dont really relate to each other

 

[Liquid]

dwight howards DPOY are the biggest bs awards given in past 15 years in the NBA. Everytime he won im like who is he defending


its no coincidence that the NBA got some decent bigs now compared to 10 years ago and he hasnt won since this new wave of pf/c's entered

He shut down the likes of Ben Wallace on defense breh

Being facetious because Howard was a great defender, but yeah...his biggest problem was checking Yao and a past his prime Shaq.

 

[Originalman]

His defensive impact alone. I live in Orlando, so the only games we get unless it's nationally televised are magic games. Dwight was a fukking terror before his back injury. Averaging seemingly at least 13 boards a night, swatting or chasing away everyone and everything. Guy was unreal. Most big men are shytty at the line though. As is he still shoots 5% better at the line than Shaq did, so we should keep in perspective how bad some centers are at the line. His post game isn't anything special, but the way the game is played and officiated these days, you can't dump the ball of on the low block and let your center isolate like it was before zone defenses. Howard peaked at 22.9 points/14.1 rebounds(4 offensive)/ 1.4 assists/ 1.4 steals/ and 2.4 blocks a game with 3.6 turnovers a night shooting 59.3% from the field and 59.6% at the line. Alonzo peaked at 20.1 points/ 11 rebounds (3.6 offensive)/ 1.6 assists/ 0.7 steals/ 3.9 blocks/ 3 turnovers per game while shooting 51.1% from the field and 65.2% at the line. He was defensive player of the year twice compared to 3 for Howard. Looking at all of these, I would say at his peak, Dwight might have been a more impactful player. Offensively though no doubt Alonzo had a more well rounded game. His foul shooting fell off hard after leaving the hornets for some reason though. Went from the high 70's to mid 60's.

Very true.