Paying for a first date is the biggest sucker move

[KinksandCoils]

"be a gentlemen and pay" in that specific situation, dude just asked if she wanted to do something. he didn't formally invite her. If you tell one of your friends "want to go see a movie?" i bet you're not expecting to have to pay their ticket. If the reason you think that is different is because it's a man-woman thing, then the whole basis of your argument is that the man should pay because he's a man and the whole "he asked so he should pay" argument is BS.

why?

i don't expect anything. if we both want to fukk, we'll both fukk. if one of us doesn't want to fukk, then we won't. why would i expect sex after a while?

As far as the sex goes i was being general about it. It was not just directed to u but men in general . I said before if u want to be taken serious than u pay if u don't want to be taken serious than don't. It's not a science to it. Like I said before up here. I'm only explaining to you how women think. At least quality ones. If you don't like it too bad. If u don't want to pay oh well be prepared to be not taken serious and looked like as a clown. When a woman goes and tells her friends how her date was we often ask if he paid.....it's hella embarrassing if he doesn't . a lot of us look at it as if he doesn't like us enough to spend money on us or he just A cheap ass. Either way its not a good look.

 

[KinksandCoils]

women had no rights for hundred of years , do you want to go back to those days?

this new generation that women have rights, jobs and a voice let us go back to the good ol days shall we in your eyes


Here you go bringing up my past, you have no idea about my past. Again If you know how to comprehend what I'm writing I have zero issues getting anyone. Actually the first nice gesture you can do for a woman is allowing her to spend time wiht a quality man, it seems for you everything has to be monetary.

I could have sworn I said ONE of the first nice gestures. And u don't even have to go as far back as that. like I said ask older women they will say the same thing. Everything is clearly money to u since u are so serious about holding on to it even for a nice women. And a lot of women do deal with men not paying on dates.... Like I said men are cheap these days. either way no one truly likes it unless she is the super independent I don't want a man to do shyt for me type. You keep making excuses and trying to play me off like I'm being greedy. Like I said we are talking about the first date. I'm not saying every date. It's time for us to agree to disagree . You don't think that you should pay for a first date. I think you should. Oh well people think differently. But if u think that I'm wrong or clueless to what I'm talking about you should really ask the opinion of older people. A man is going to say yea u should pay for the young lady and a woman is going to say the same thing. Smh at u men who want to do nothing but want something.

 

[Turbulent]

It's a game to be pursued? I never said I would sit back and act so uninterested or act like u were a little servant doing everything for me.

you're basically saying any man who wants to spend time with you should pay because he's a man and once he has spent sometime with you, you will then decide if he will get to go on a second date with you based on how much he has impressed you how compatible you two are. if he doesn't pass this test then he doesn't get your money back but he gets your "appreciation". gotta take risks right?...Also, any man who refuses to adhere to these rules is free to do so but will be shamed with terms like "cheap" and be ordered to "be a gentleman and pay" or "he's not a real man" and "will be alone forever"...this is what wanting to be pursued is.

now don't get me wrong, i'm no player-hater. If you got it like that and dudes actually line up to be served the okey-doke, salute to you. But yes, this is a game, and i just refuse to be a contestant.

One last thing, i'm not saying a man should never pay for a woman as a rule. Yes i have paid for women but it was never because they tried to shame me into "being a man and paying" or to be a "gentlemen". As a man, if you pay for a woman not to seem cheap or because "it"s what a man should do", then you're a sucker, pure and simple. A man should pay only if it's because he wants to do something nice for her out of the goodness of his heart (and yes, i actually feel like that sometimes). Not to get sex in return, not for appearances sake, not out of fear he will be shamed.

 

[beezy]

its crazy how the first and only chick i decided to NOT pay for on the first date ended up being my wife. theres gotta be some kinda correlation here

 

[MikelArteta]

its crazy how the first and only chick i decided to NOT pay for on the first date ended up being my wife. theres gotta be some kinda correlation here

 

[MikelArteta]

As far as the sex goes i was being general about it. It was not just directed to u but men in general . I said before if u want to be taken serious than u pay if u don't want to be taken serious than don't. It's not a science to it. Like I said before up here. I'm only explaining to you how women think. At least quality ones. If you don't like it too bad. If u don't want to pay oh well be prepared to be not taken serious and looked like as a clown. When a woman goes and tells her friends how her date was we often ask if he paid.....it's hella embarrassing if he doesn't . a lot of us look at it as if he doesn't like us enough to spend money on us or he just A cheap ass. Either way its not a good look.

lol im sorry but us men are old enough and wise enough not to take advice from a women on how women think.

just read over what your reading it sounds very gold diggerishh

a lot of us look at it as if he doesn't like us enough to spend money on us or he just A cheap ass.


your not my wife, your not even my girlfriend yet, your basically a undrafted rookie that may make the squad

 

[KinksandCoils]

you're basically saying any man who wants to spend time with you should pay because he's a man and once he has spent sometime with you, you will then decide if he will get to go on a second date with you based on how much he has impressed you how compatible you two are. if he doesn't pass this test then he doesn't get your money back but he gets your "appreciation". gotta take risks right?...Also, any man who refuses to adhere to these rules is free to do so but will be shamed with terms like "cheap" and be ordered to "be a gentleman and pay" or "he's not a real man" and "will be alone forever"...this is what wanting to be pursued is.

now don't get me wrong, i'm no player-hater. If you got it like that and dudes actually line up to be served the okey-doke, salute to you. But yes, this is a game, and i just refuse to be a contestant.

One last thing, i'm not saying a man should never pay for a woman as a rule. Yes i have paid for women but it was never because they tried to shame me into "being a man and paying" or to be a "gentlemen". As a man, if you pay for a woman not to seem cheap or because "it"s what a man should do", then you're a sucker, pure and simple. A man should pay only if it's because he wants to do something nice for her out of the goodness of his heart (and yes, i actually feel like that sometimes). Not to get sex in return, not for appearances sake, not out of fear he will be shamed.

Yea u are right for the most part. If u look at it as a game than ok I can see your point but I don't look at it as a game.

I would never call the man cheap or lame to his face. Unless he was an ass that day but the bottom line is this is how women think. And don't go on a date with a woman who is not deserving in the first place lmao that's how some men get themselves by going out with women the second they find out they exist, not knowing anything about them except for the pretty face. It's all about doing a nice gesture for a person u are interested in that's why u are going out with them.

 

[muzikfrk75]

Let's be reality....how many of yall women are asking the guy out for a first date?

 

[Lana Kane]

Let's be reality....how many of yall women are asking the guy out for a first date?

I have.
I like to switch it up.

 

[KinksandCoils]

lol im sorry but us men are old enough and wise enough not to take advice from a women on how women think.

just read over what your reading it sounds very gold diggerishh

a lot of us look at it as if he doesn't like us enough to spend money on us or he just A cheap ass.


your not my wife, your not even my girlfriend yet, your basically a undrafted rookie that may make the squad

I'm a gold digger because I feel that a man should pay for the first date?! Come off that shyt. You saying that is like saying every women is a gold digger. We are talking about women in This post so I'm a women telling you how we think about the situation .

 

[muzikfrk75]

I have.
I like to switch it up.

You're the exception then, not the rule.

 

[KinksandCoils]

Let's be reality....how many of yall women are asking the guy out for a first date?

Not me...

 

[muzikfrk75]

#nofreemeals

 

[Jahmal]

Because HE asked HER out. Breh, you're a smart poster, but I don't see what's so mind boggling. If SHE asks HIM then SHE pays, its just common courtesy

How often do Women ask Men out on Dates?

 

[Jahmal]

The Hard On Hoes Movement is getting stronger each day!