Paulie Malignaggi says fighters get written off by fans and media after a few losses

[O.G.B]

It was just a mistake.....like saying that Kovalev fight was embarrassing, but forgetting that Floyd vs JLC 1 happened

The first fight with Jose Luis Castillo was earlier in Mayweather's career & Floyd was not revered as a consensus No.1 P4P great at the time like Ward is now so this is a really a silly analogy.


Also Mayweather fought Castillo with a torn rotator cuff that occurred before their first fight which severely limited his overall punching, yet he still won.

"Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now."


However Ward, who was considered by many to be in the best shape of his fighting career when facing Kovalev, looked absolutely dismal & got knocked down, both things you can't say happened to Mayweather either time when he fought Castillo (twice).





In fact Floyd has never been officially knocked out or down with a punch by ANY of his 49 opponents unlike Andre Ward has!

Even Castillo himself will tell you the real deal regarding Mayweather the Great!



"Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with RingTV.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years."

BEST SKILLS

Photo by John Gurzinski/AFP-Getty Images

Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.



BEST JAB

Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.



BEST DEFENSE

Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd cleanÔǪ so he had the best defense also.



BEST CHIN

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.



BEST PUNCHER

Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.



FASTEST HANDS

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.



FASTEST FEET

Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.



SMARTEST

Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.



STRONGEST

Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.



BEST OVERALL

Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned.


Best I've faced: Jose Luis Castillo - The Ring

I never said that.



What I said was, in 2017......Boxing is Andre Ward's.

No, what you "said" is that Andre Ward is the "Jordan of boxing" which he's absolutely not or will ever be, regardless the era.

Not Floyd's. Also, that Sergey Kovalev win is better than every Floyd victory except the Pacquiao and Corrales win. That's just facts breh

Folks, this is your brain on drugs!

Who did Floyd beat that was ranked #3 P4P, undefeated, in their prime, and held 3 of the 4 Championships in the class?

What you've mentioned pales in comparison when you consider that Mayweather has won fifteen world titles and the lineal championship in four different weight classes.

We need to pay respects to the man who's #1 P4P and been undefeated since he was 12..........

Andre Ward certainly deserves his respect for his boxing accomplishments & his status as the current No.1 P4P champion. However Ward will never be on Mayweather's level as a skilled boxer, nor have anywhere close to the same heralded, historic career. Therefore any legitimate comparisons between Mayweather & Ward or Ward & M.J. (which is even more ridiculous) from your perspective are fruitless.

 

[MJ Truth]

He's not lying.

And it goes for all sports as well.

The 24 hour sports media cycle and their obsession with comparing everyone based on titles is basically what forces guys like LeBron and Durant to make the moves they made, which the media then uses to shyt on them at every turn they get. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Boxing media will shyt on fighters for not fighting other top fighters, but then discard those same top fighters if they fight each other and one loses.

 

[Newzz]

The first fight with Jose Luis Castillo was earlier in Mayweather's career & Floyd was not revered as a consensus No.1 P4P great at the time like Ward is now so this is a really a silly analogy.


Also Mayweather fought Castillo with a torn rotator cuff that occurred before their first fight which severely limited his overall punching, yet he still won.

"Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now."


However Ward, who was considered by many to be in the best shape of his fighting career when facing Kovalev, looked absolutely dismal & got knocked down, both things you can't say happened to Mayweather either time when he fought Castillo (twice).





In fact Floyd has never been officially knocked out or down with a punch by ANY of his 49 opponents unlike Andre Ward has!

Even Castillo himself will tell you the real deal regarding Mayweather the Great!



"Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with RingTV.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years."

BEST SKILLS

Photo by John Gurzinski/AFP-Getty Images

Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.



BEST JAB

Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.



BEST DEFENSE

Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd cleanÔǪ so he had the best defense also.



BEST CHIN

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.



BEST PUNCHER

Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.



FASTEST HANDS

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.



FASTEST FEET

Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.



SMARTEST

Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.



STRONGEST

Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.



BEST OVERALL

Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned.


Best I've faced: Jose Luis Castillo - The Ring





No, what you "said" is that Andre Ward is the "Jordan of boxing" which he's absolutely not or will ever be, regardless the era.



Folks, this is your brain on drugs!





What you've mentioned pales in comparison when you consider that Mayweather has won fifteen world titles and the lineal championship in four different weight classes.







Andre Ward certainly deserves his respect for his boxing accomplishments & his status as the current No.1 P4P champion. However Ward will never be on Mayweather's level as a skilled boxer, nor have anywhere close to the same heralded, historic career. Therefore any legitimate comparisons between Mayweather & Ward or Ward & M.J. (which is even more ridiculous) from your perspective are fruitless.

This entire post was pretty much littered with Floyd stanning and Ward disrespect


I will respond to this tomorrow when I'm on my desktop instead of my cell phone.


Bottomline though....right now, TODAY, it's Andre Ward and then the rest. Even if Floyd came back right now, he'd be #2 behind Ward. That's not an opinion, that's fact.

 

[blackzeus]

You obviously don't know much about the Super Middleweight divison with a post like this




Stop it breh. :forreal:






Sergey Kovalev has never lost to a bum like Carlos Baldomir.......but you sitting here comparing him to Zab Judah who already had 3 losses before Floyd faced him By the way, Kovalev easily beat Bernard Hopkins and took his belts



Yall both need to stop it :forreal:

Yeah when B-Hop was like 80 years old And Sergey ain't undefeated so what are we talking about here

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Man Im the no.1 Money May fan but lets not disrespect Andre Ward hes a future HOF certified

Over the last 10-15 years.. his resume is up there with the best, easy top 5 - there aint 1 fighter that you could make a case for and say that he ducked.. hes whooped everybody thats been put in front of him

Anybody whos P4P list doesnt have Ward at #1 is a cac

 

[O.G.B]

This entire post was pretty much littered with Floyd stanning and Ward disrespect

You may feel some of my comments on Ward borders on disrespect, however they're also the truth & indisputable.

I will respond to this tomorrow when I'm on my desktop instead of my cell phone.

With all due respect, I don't know why you're even wasting your time responding, as nothing that I've written can be refuted or countered.

Even if Floyd came back right now, he'd be #2 behind Ward. That's not an opinion, that's fact.

Everyone is entitled to their personal opinion, even if they are completely wrong!

 

[Newzz]

Yeah when B-Hop was like 80 years old And Sergey ain't undefeated so what are we talking about here

First, Hopkins been old since forever. He fought Hopkins coming off a 3 fight win streak, when Hopkins held the most belts at Light Heavyweight, and was ranked #2 in the division.

Third, of course he ain't undefeated....his only loss is to Andre Ward. That's the point, no one else could beat him BUT Ward.

How dare you compare Kovalev that Ward fought to the Zab Judah that Floyd fought....the same Judah who had 3 losses BEFORE fighting Floyd and even lost the very fight before he faced Floyd

 

[Newzz]

Man Im the no.1 Money May fan but lets not disrespect Andre Ward hes a future HOF certified

Over the last 10-15 years.. his resume is up there with the best, easy top 5 - there aint 1 fighter that you could make a case for and say that he ducked.. hes whooped everybody thats been put in front of him

Anybody whos P4P list doesnt have Ward at #1 is a cac

This is crazy breh


I'm saying Floyd was great and all...but he had his turn. Ward is THAT dude now, he's the Jordan of Boxing now, and they don't get it and would rather attack SOG


Kovalev = Judah

Ward fought mostly garbage opponents

If Floyd came back, he would immediately take the #1 spot from Ward



Crazy

 

[patscorpio]

the dichotomy of the floyd stanning and ward stanning in this thread is fascinating

 

[Newzz]

The first fight with Jose Luis Castillo was earlier in Mayweather's career & Floyd was not revered as a consensus No.1 P4P great at the time like Ward is now so this is a really a silly analogy.

This spin of trying to act like Floyd was some green prospect now?


It was Floyd's 28th professional fight....and he was in his prime at 25 years old when he fought JLC AND he was ranked #5 P4P while JLC was nowhere near the P4P list. Andre Ward fought Kovalev in his 31st professional fight and was ranked #4 P4P while Kovalev was #2 P4P

Also Mayweather fought Castillo with a torn rotator cuff that occurred before their first fight which severely limited his overall punching, yet he still won.

"Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now."


However Ward, who was considered by many to be in the best shape of his fighting career when facing Kovalev, looked absolutely dismal & got knocked down, both things you can't say happened to Mayweather either time when he fought Castillo (twice).

Ward fought a better opponent and pretty much swept the 2nd half of the fight...........something Floyd couldn't do in the 1st fight vs JLC. Just facts

In fact Floyd has never been officially knocked out or down with a punch by ANY of his 49 opponents unlike Andre Ward has!

This means what exactly though?

Even Castillo himself will tell you the real deal regarding Mayweather the Great!



"Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with RingTV.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years."

BEST SKILLS

Photo by John Gurzinski/AFP-Getty Images

Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.



BEST JAB

Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.



BEST DEFENSE

Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd cleanÔǪ so he had the best defense also.



BEST CHIN

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.



BEST PUNCHER

Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.



FASTEST HANDS

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.



FASTEST FEET

Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.



SMARTEST

Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.



STRONGEST

Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.



BEST OVERALL

Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned.


Best I've faced: Jose Luis Castillo - The Ring

What does this have to do with the fact Floyd struggled with a lesser opponent in JLC?




Like, breh.....you're just posting stuff hoping any of it sticks

No, what you "said" is that Andre Ward is the "Jordan of boxing" which he's absolutely not or will ever be, regardless the era.

Andre Ward is currently "Jordan of Boxing" meaning HE'S the 1 and there's no other who can replace him. Not even Floyd

Folks, this is your brain on drugs!


What you've mentioned pales in comparison when you consider that Mayweather has won fifteen world titles and the lineal championship in four different weight classes.

Name a fighter that Floyd beat, outside of Pacquiao and Corrales, that was a better opponent than Kovalev who was ranked #2 P4P, undefeated, in his prime, and held 3 of the 4 Championships in the class?



You cant name one, so you're forced to try to shoulder roll your way out of facts

Andre Ward certainly deserves his respect for his boxing accomplishments & his status as the current No.1 P4P champion.

^^^ This was MY point, but yet, you don't wanna give him his respect. You'd rather hate because SOG is just that good

However Ward will never be on Mayweather's level as a skilled boxer, nor have anywhere close to the same heralded, historic career.

This is exactly the hate Im talking about



Nowhere in this thread have I compared their skill and how can YOU say how Andre Ward's career end?



You don't know who he faces and where he goes after he beats Kovalev again....he can go on and clean out a 2nd division in a row, something Floyd hasn't ever done, and also take the scalps of Kovalev, Stevenson, GGG, Beterbiev with him on the way out

Therefore any legitimate comparisons between Mayweather & Ward or Ward & M.J. (which is even more ridiculous) from your perspective are fruitless.

That would've cleared all this up if Floyd would've taken the bait




#SOGGang

 

[patscorpio]

You don't know who he faces and where he goes after he beats Kovalev again....he can go on and clean out a 2nd division in a row, something Floyd hasn't ever done, and also take the scalps of Kovalev, Stevenson, GGG, Beterbiev with him on the way out

technically his scalp has already been taken breh..but continue cooking

the dichotomy

 

[Newzz]

technically his scalp has already been taken breh..but continue cooking

the dichotomy

Leaving out the game with 2 back to back wins over Kovalev, beating Beterbiev, taking the WBC Championship from Stevenson, and then taking GGG out would be to add to his GOAT level SMW resume already...........and not one Floyd stan could tell me anything if that happens

 

[TheNig]

@ Andre Ward being the "Jordan of boxing", especially after that embarrassing struggle fight with Sergey Kovalev.

I mean... he's Jordan Brand so...

 

[TheNig]

"I've learned more about this man in the last four months than I ever could in a 12-round fight," Ward said. "You learn a lot about a man when adversity hits. And I'm not saying he can't have an opinion, but the way he's going about it, I just sit back and I just watch and I take notes.

"There's some weakness, there's some holes there, and we're gonna tap into that on June 17th."

 

[seemorecizzy]

He can thank floyd. There was never anyone who made a bigger deal about having your 0 than he did. Fans accepted it.

shyts been going on before floyd was even around man
Stop this