Paul Ryan says poverty is due to culture of not working in the innercities

[Hawaiian Punch]

Smh

I don't agree because I'm willing to stand up and compete at any stage. My hope, however idealistic, is that the playing field is even. Every generation we get closer. My kid seeing a president his color, learning about science on tv from a guy his color and seeing the things his parents accomplished means that his view of the world will be radically better than mine,

 

[Brown_Pride]

I said this before but there was this black lady at my job who argued that the worst thing to happen to black folks was desegregation. She said during segregation we had no choice but to set up banks, shops and service centers in our communities. The money was recirculated and we were educating ourselves. Once segregation ended the smaller banks and business were forced to compete with the larger, more established business. This, along with discriminatory practices, led to decaying communities. While I don't agree with her I can now say I understand. It's a microscosm of how the imf and world bank destroy 3rd world countries by unfair loan practices that force them to compete on the global market.

hmmm you know I never thought about THAT aspect of it...

How long would it have been though before the powers that be saw black people making money and went in anyway to chase that dollar and run those smaller banks out? I guess a better foundation for the black community could have been created but ultimately I think you'd still be facing many, if not all, of the same hurdles you face now. Chief amoung them the idea, both internal and external, that black/brown is less than white.

Actually...
In poor white areas you see the same "flight of wealth" that you see in poor black/brown areas, there are no CPA's living in white ghettos.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I don't agree because I'm willing to stand up and compete at any stage. My hope, however idealistic, is that the playing field is even. Every generation we get closer. My kid seeing a president his color, learning about science on tv from a guy his color and seeing the things his parents accomplished means that his view of the world will be radically better than mine,

that's where i'm at right now. like I said early, for some reason people became complacent with the gains that were made in the early to mid part of last century and almost exist as if racism died in the 1900's. In fact I think most non minorities probably believe that to be true. Sadly most minorities know it is not. The onus then, is on us, the minorities, to bring to the forefront the remaining inequalities and racism that exist. So that future generations don't have to do the work we should have.

 

[Handsback]

But isn't that what he was saying, he said that people should stop driving by poor neighborhoods and think somebody will handle it and instead get involved in solving the problem, when I listened to the whole quote I don't think it's that serious, it's actually a lets all get along type of statement

And I can understand that and agree but realistically who's gonna pick up the torch? Paul's base? Large amounts of republicans and libertarians? Those folks who are out there helping are already there. I don't imagine a world where those folks who drive past are suddenly going to be compelled to help out if federal assistance to inner cities is cut. He's talking to people who believe that shyt will sort itself out if the government keeps its hands out of the matter. His political stance just doesn't jive with this statement in my opinion.

 

[theworldismine13]

And I can understand that and agree but realistically who's gonna pick up the torch? Paul's base? Large amounts of republicans and libertarians? Those folks who are out there helping are already there. I don't imagine a world where those folks who drive past are suddenly going to be compelled to help out if federal assistance to inner cities is cut. He's talking to people who believe that shyt will sort itself out if the government keeps its hands out of the matter. His political stance just doesn't jive with this statement in my opinion.

well im just clarifying things, i dont really see what the big deal is about what he said he should have just said it better

but overall i dont really care what paul ryan and his base does, im more concerned about what black people are going to do because the future of black people does not depend on what paul ryan and his base does, the future is dependent on what black people do

 

[Prince Akeem]

inb4 c00ns try to convince us this isn't racist

"But he right though " - Coli idiots

Somebody on this board, no matter what will co-sign this

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I cant believe Im saying this, but I mostly agree with Ryan's analytic. Now I was a lil uncomfortable the way he stressed value, and if he eliminated the residual effects of the overt discrimination from the past, combined with the institutional bias of today from his theoretic, i.e. there is something inherently wrong with black people, then he is making an implicitly racist argument...but it didnt sound like it since he encouraged a commitment from all Americans to fix the problem, versus hollow scapegoating, which is rare from a conservative.

Hes referencing human capital theory, or in sociological terms 'the cycle of poverty'. Black kids are not born into communities that are invested in their success, and instead are raised in disadvantaged social and economic positions on average. They have very little in the way of positive social and economic apparatuses to draw from. We know many black children are not born in household's where their potential is fostered and attainment is allowed to flourish...this negatively affects what is called "psychological externalities", where children start to develop a cynical outlook on their place and potential location in this world, and act dysfunctionally in greater proportion because of it.

This is a primary source for why our communities lag economically. Combine this with racial resentment from the dominant class, and their futures are determined. Lil timmy white boy goes on company family picnics, is introduced to positive networks and social peers, and is groomed to be a productive citizen. We KNOW this is not the average ethnographic experience of the black child.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

not surprising since mitt believes all blacks are cursed

 

[dontspeakmuch]

basically this.

let him try to talk that in europe, youth would be on him like wolves. but our youth too worried about the new foams

 

[winb83]

So basically he sayin niccas is lazy

Why can't Paul Ryan just come out and say "These nikkas are fukking lazy and if yall are willing to take our (rich people's) tax dollars and redirect them at these broke nikkas they'll never aspire to be anything but lazy nikkas eatting of the government."

You know that's how he and his boys really feel but they gotta be so fake and not come out and say it or use dog whistle code words to dance around it.

What i admire about Mitt was he was like fukk it i'm rich and i'm sick of these lazy people taking my money. half of the people in this country ain't doing shyt but taking money. i mean it may or may not have been true but he felt that way and said it.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Listening to politicians for anything other than entertainment is Yourself.

 

[KingpinOG]

He even cited Charles Murray.

A seven page thread full of nothing but ignorance and outlandish claims of racism? Yep.....it has to be a Mephistopheles thread.

I am looking at Paul Ryan's quote......what exactly did he say that was racist? What did he say that even addressed the subject of race?

"We have got this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work, and so there is a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with."

To anyone with even the most basic reading comprehension skills (i.e. non-liberals), Ryan is clearly addressing the fact that liberal policies hurt job creation in inner cities and create disincentives for work. That results in entire generations of men growing up dependent upon government and not gaining the skills to be successful, productive members of society. That is indeed a cultural problem.

Of course liberals never miss an opportunity to fake outrage and smear their political opponents as racists. Heading into a midterm election with their policies being regarded as failures, Democrats have no choice but to create new boogeymen (racist Republicans) to get their base of low information voters worked up. They do this but inventing racism where it does not exist. Liberals have perfected the ability to take innocuous statements by conservatives and distort them so that they can cry racism. "What so and so said was this, but what he REALLY was saying was......then they accuse him of using a top secret dog whistle that only liberals can decipher. It doesn't really matter what a Republican says, liberals will always be able to say they meant something else far more sinister and racist. There is nothing Republicans can do to defend themselves.

 

[KingpinOG]

Even prominent liberal bloggers like Andrew Sullivan are calling out other liberals for using these comments to smear Paul Ryan as racist.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/03/14/the-smearing-of-ryan-as-a-racist/

I have said it a million times on this message board: liberals don't like having their beliefs challenged and will do anything to shut down debate.

 

[Chris.B]

Even prominent liberal bloggers like Andrew Sullivan are calling out other liberals for using these comments to smear Paul Ryan as racist.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/03/14/the-smearing-of-ryan-as-a-racist/

I have said it a million times on this message board: liberals don't like having their beliefs challenged and will do anything to shut down debate.

Most iberals are that way because they refuse to think.

Most liberals in general have a mental defect...They tend to be stupid and don't apply critical thinking to issues.
Paul Ryan doesn't have to apologize...He said the absolute truth.

The inner city culture is the reason why most blacks/minorities are fukked

 

[KingpinOG]

"But he right though " - Coli idiots

Somebody on this board, no matter what will co-sign this

You don't think there is a cultural problem in America's inner cities????