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I look forward to you articulating yourself on the next podcast.
Paul Ryan says poverty is due to culture of not working in the innercities
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I look forward to you articulating yourself on the next podcast.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
but anyways, i didnt realize the soundclip was just 1 minute, i thought it was an hour long, so i actually listened to it, and i have to say i dont think its a big deal
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
And when I say that right-wingers in general don't care for black people, I'm "pulling the race card" or "making excuses". But let's not get it twisted, when politicians make these types of comments they aren't aimed at minorities. Rather they're aimed at their own supporters, to reinforce/justify their preexisting narrative about lazy/entitled minorities.
Right Wingers are on the self-destruct mode since November 2012. They know that they lost the White House forever and they know that their ideology dies with the baby boomers.
y'all make me proud on here at times.Honestly I get tired of people trying to address complex problems with simplistic narratives...
It's not even worthy of discussion anymore...
@bigDeeOT @theworldismine13 @DEAD7
this is one of those times.
i won't even waste time with everything wrong with that statement lol
Like I just said, there are problems with work ethic too. White American culture is rife with enough problems that its not worth emulating.
But if you just want to focus on education, here's why we shouldn't "assimilate into the mainstream" and why immigration/diversity are good things and not the albatrosses/boondoggles you blindly parrot them to be
Here is the % of people with bachelors or higher in America by race
70% of native born white Americans don't have a degree.... you claim education is the way forward but then imply these are the people we should emulate, and immigrants like Asians "are the problem"
fukk outta here
You dont think anything shytting on black people is a big deal. You think you're special. But in the eyes of Paul Ryan and his poor, ignorant, uneducated, racist white base, you are just another ****** like the rest of us. You keep talking about black power but then jump right back on the dikks of folks who's main goal it is to squash any hint of black power out of existence. You're a clown dawg
I'm only 3 and half years old, Hyllo
superunknown23
Superstar
Amazing coming from a guy who has never earned a non-taxpayer funded paycheck.
He's has never had a job in the private sector and has been collecting government paychecks since college.
He's has never had a job in the private sector and has been collecting government paychecks since college.
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/03/13/3399441/ryan-research-lazy-inner-cities/
But whether or not race was at the heart of Ryan’s intentions, it appears that the government data and the social research he uses to argue that “inner city” men are taking advantage of anti-poverty programs to avoid employment actually only undermine his claims.
When discussing “this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working” on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America on Wednesday, the Congressman specifically mentioned two social scientists to substantiate his views: Charles Murray, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who openly believes that African-American men are less intelligent than whites due to genetic differences, and Robert Putnam, a Harvard professor whose research has found that lower-income Americans are more distrustful of others and more disconnected from society’s important institutions than their middle or higher-income counterparts. Putnam argues that these trends are a sign that the United States is “heading towards a caste system where social standing and community involvement are inherited from generation to generation” and undermine social mobility.
When asked to substantiate the Congressman’s claim that inner city men aren’t thinking about employment, a Ryan spokesperson pointed ThinkProgress to Putnam’s paper “Growing Class Gaps in Social Connectedness among American Youth.” While the analysis in that paper finds evidence that lower-income groups are less socially and civically engaged, part of what Ryan’s remarks implied, it doesn’t examine whether poor people are unwilling to work.
In fact, Putnam himself explained in an earlier examination that civic investment and welfare spending “appear essentially uncorrelated.” “Citizens in free-spending states are no less trusting or engaged than citizens in frugal ones,” he wrote, before directly undermining Ryan’s thesis: “Among nineteen member countries of the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) for which data on social trust and group membership are available from the 1990-1991 World Values Survey, these indicators of social capital are, if anything, positively correlated with the size of the state,” Putnam concluded. That means higher spending on welfare programs can actually help lower-income people become more engaged.
But whether or not race was at the heart of Ryan’s intentions, it appears that the government data and the social research he uses to argue that “inner city” men are taking advantage of anti-poverty programs to avoid employment actually only undermine his claims.
When discussing “this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working” on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America on Wednesday, the Congressman specifically mentioned two social scientists to substantiate his views: Charles Murray, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who openly believes that African-American men are less intelligent than whites due to genetic differences, and Robert Putnam, a Harvard professor whose research has found that lower-income Americans are more distrustful of others and more disconnected from society’s important institutions than their middle or higher-income counterparts. Putnam argues that these trends are a sign that the United States is “heading towards a caste system where social standing and community involvement are inherited from generation to generation” and undermine social mobility.
When asked to substantiate the Congressman’s claim that inner city men aren’t thinking about employment, a Ryan spokesperson pointed ThinkProgress to Putnam’s paper “Growing Class Gaps in Social Connectedness among American Youth.” While the analysis in that paper finds evidence that lower-income groups are less socially and civically engaged, part of what Ryan’s remarks implied, it doesn’t examine whether poor people are unwilling to work.
In fact, Putnam himself explained in an earlier examination that civic investment and welfare spending “appear essentially uncorrelated.” “Citizens in free-spending states are no less trusting or engaged than citizens in frugal ones,” he wrote, before directly undermining Ryan’s thesis: “Among nineteen member countries of the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) for which data on social trust and group membership are available from the 1990-1991 World Values Survey, these indicators of social capital are, if anything, positively correlated with the size of the state,” Putnam concluded. That means higher spending on welfare programs can actually help lower-income people become more engaged.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Like I just said, there are problems with work ethic too. White American culture is rife with enough problems that its not worth emulating.
But if you just want to focus on education, here's why we shouldn't "assimilate into the mainstream" and why immigration/diversity are good things and not the albatrosses/boondoggles you blindly parrot them to be
Here is the % of people with bachelors or higher in America by race
70% of native born white Americans don't have a degree.... you claim education is the way forward but then imply these are the people we should emulate, and immigrants like Asians "are the problem"
fukk outta here
If you are saying work ethic is an issue, then that's you and Paul Ryan, that has nothing to do with what I've said
As far as assimilation I think you are taking that out of context, the only reason I've ever said assimilation is that over the long run if people in America don't assimilate into one culture then the United States will cease to exist, it has nothing to do specifically with black people and it also says that white people will have to change their culture
As far as education goes this is another area where you are confusing what I'm saying, when I say education I'm not talking about college I'm talking about elementary school and high school, and the high school graduation rates and academic performance of blacks is horrendous and it's at the core of problems and IMO it's not a symptom it's the root cause
I never even co-signed Ryan's comments, but I will say that when you go into the inner city you see a lot of people that didn't graduate from high school and people that have poor reading and writing skills and a culture that isn't focused on education
And if anything I've said that black people need to learn from Asians and follow a tiger mom model, not white people
But bottom line black people need to change our culture to one that is focused on education
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
yeah that is correct, I don't care that Paul Ryan and his uneducated white base thinks that I'm a ******, I think they should continue thinking whatever they are thinking, you are the one that is saying that Paul Ryan should do this and that, you are essentially saying that black people cannot rise until Ryan and his uneducated white base stop being racist , I'm telling you we can
So in the end you are the one on their dikk not me, black power cannot be built on begging white people to stop being racist, black power has to exist independently of whites or else it's not really black power
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I think many of the components to success end up being rejected by this anti assimilation sentiment, and its really a double edged sword we should reconsider...
I'd like Ryan to spend two days in one of these neighborhoods that he's referring to. Tour some schools with metal detectors and 15 year old text books. Help some kids do their homework to the sound of police sirens late at night. After he's over for dinner of course. We can see how far those food stamps that he helped cut can go in cooking a nice meal for such a dignified guest.
Send some TV cameras. I'd watch.
Send some TV cameras. I'd watch.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
But isn't that what he was saying, he said that people should stop driving by poor neighborhoods and think somebody will handle it and instead get involved in solving the problem, when I listened to the whole quote I don't think it's that serious, it's actually a lets all get along type of statement
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