Patrick Mahomes career is more in line with Brett Favre's than Tom Brady's...

[Rell84shots]

The audacity of the media trying to elevate him over MJ just because he won a ring at a younger age.

 

[DropTopDoc]

You're clearly a casual who sees Mahomes' TEAM in the Super Bowl but doesn't actually watch or analyze football.

Read for read, throw for throw, yes Allen and Watson are both better than Mahomes. Both are more mobile. Both are more accurate. Neither has the weapons or play calling.

casual, nikka I’m not even gonna dignify that notion, with a response

but Allen literally had accuracy issues his qbr was ass last year, but let me guess solely because Diggs came he some how gained more accuracy and you can’t compare read to read because every offense is different i can’t even have a debate with you because your floor is already on a different level and i don’t mean that in a good way

 

[Controversy]

Stan mediocre cacs breh


U probably wondering if the carpet matches the drapes when it comes to Wentz

You def got fakkit thoughts & tendencies

#BLOCKED

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

casual, nikka I’m not even gonna dignify that notion, with a response

but Allen literally had accuracy issues his qbr was ass last year, but let me guess solely because Diggs came he some how gained more accuracy and you can’t compare read to read because every offense is different i can’t even have a debate with you because your floor is already on a different level and i don’t mean that in a good way

Last year? How you just gonna ignore THIS year?

Don't take it as an insult, most people are casual/average fans. I don't expect anyone to watch football the way I do. I monitor body language on the sidelines, my g. I have a sickness.

But I'll break it down for you out of love, this ain't no arguing shyt.

Stefon Diggs caught 63 passes last year in Minnesota. He caught more than DOUBLE that, 127, this year. Diggs never made a Pro Bowl in Minnesota. Diggs was always #2 behind Adam Thielen in Minnesota. Stefon Diggs' track record does not indicate THIS type of season.

The truth behind Josh's improved accuracy is his improved FOOTWORK. I saw that when he came into the league because I'm insane when it comes to this shyt. Don't ever say you watch football like me because you'd be insulting yourself. I dedicate way too much time to this, breh. Josh's completion % was low in college because he was often running for his life and NEVER set his feet. But his mechanics have developed. His hip rotation has FAR more to do with his completion % than Diggs. Again, I WATCH these games and throws closely. It's not just about numbers, it's about BALL PLACEMENT. Where are the receiver's hands as he catches the ball? Does he have to outstretch them? Does the receiver have to stop or turn around to catch the ball? All of this matters when comparing the elite. Josh and Deshaun BOTH put the ball right there more often than Mahomes, regardless of who the receiver is. Kelce and Hill stay pirouetting in the air making amazing catches because the pass is a little off. Then they have the speed to take off and gain more yards for Mahomes' stat sheet.

Best thrown Mahomes made last night was the joint Tyreek dropped. Stat sheet said 0-1, 0 yards, 0.0 passer rating. Eye test said best throw of the night.

Josh Allen completed 69% of his passes for a whole season. Watson completed 70%. Mahomes has never completed more than 66%. He doesn't even beat them by the numbers test, let alone the eye.

 

[Bboystyle]

You def got fakkit thoughts & tendencies

#BLOCKED

Lol scorned fakkit.

 

[28 Gramz]

Last year? How you just gonna ignore THIS year?

Don't take it as an insult, most people are casual/average fans. I don't expect anyone to watch football the way I do. I monitor body language on the sidelines, my g. I have a sickness.

But I'll break it down for you out of love, this ain't no arguing shyt.

Stefon Diggs caught 63 passes last year in Minnesota. He caught more than DOUBLE that, 127, this year. Diggs never made a Pro Bowl in Minnesota. Diggs was always #2 behind Adam Thielen in Minnesota. Stefon Diggs' track record does not indicate THIS type of season.

The truth behind Josh's improved accuracy is his improved FOOTWORK. I saw that when he came into the league because I'm insane when it comes to this shyt. Don't ever say you watch football like me because you'd be insulting yourself. I dedicate way too much time to this, breh. Josh's completion % was low in college because he was often running for his life and NEVER set his feet. But his mechanics have developed. His hip rotation has FAR more to do with his completion % than Diggs. Again, I WATCH these games and throws closely. It's not just about numbers, it's about BALL PLACEMENT. Where are the receiver's hands as he catches the ball? Does he have to outstretch them? Does the receiver have to stop or turn around to catch the ball? All of this matters when comparing the elite. Josh and Deshaun BOTH put the ball right there more often than Mahomes, regardless of who the receiver is. Kelce and Hill stay pirouetting in the air making amazing catches because the pass is a little off. Then they have the speed to take off and gain more yards for Mahomes' stat sheet.

Best thrown Mahomes made last night was the joint Tyreek dropped. Stat sheet said 0-1, 0 yards, 0.0 passer rating. Eye test said best throw of the night.

Josh Allen completed 69% of his passes for a whole season. Watson completed 70%. Mahomes has never completed more than 66%. He doesn't even beat them by the numbers test, let alone the eye.

Watson was up 24-0 on Mahomes and lost, he should never be mentioned in the same sentence with that man. Bill Obrien or not, if you are better than the guy on the other side of the field you win that game by just being a good game manager and getting a couple of field goals to keep the lead.

Josh Allen being better than Mahomes is laughable. Hes had one great season compared to 3 he also looked like dog shyt against the Cheifs.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Watson was up 24-0 on Mahomes and lost, he should never be mentioned in the same sentence with that man. Bill Obrien or not, if you are better than the guy on the other side of the field you win that game by just being a good game manager and getting a couple of field goals to keep the lead.

Josh Allen being better than Mahomes is laughable. Hes had one great season compared to 3 he also looked like dog shyt against the Cheifs.

Did Mahomes look like "dogshyt" last night or did his o-line just get dominated? This whole QB head to head shyt might be the dumbest thing in all of sports.

Call me I'm from an era when the best QB (Marino) didn't win shyt!

 

[Stone]

And that falls on the coaches, not Mahomes.

The Bucs killed their deep passing and the Chiefs didn't adjust. That doesnt' fall on Patrick.

They tried to come out with the quick stuff early but the Bucs LBs sniffed it out. Just a masterful job by the front 7 and bad attrition luck by the chiefs.

 

[NYC Rebel]

They tried to come out with the quick stuff early but the Bucs LBs sniffed it out. Just a masterful job by the front 7 and bad attrition luck by the chiefs.

David and White’s speed.....

 

[315]

Stefon Diggs caught 63 passes last year in Minnesota. He caught more than DOUBLE that, 127, this year. Diggs never made a Pro Bowl in Minnesota. Diggs was always #2 behind Adam Thielen in Minnesota. Stefon Diggs' track record does not indicate THIS type of season.

Diggs, Brown and Beasley have all had their best seasons with Allen

 

[Da_Eggman]

Already sign a contract that will handicap his future

 

[Stone]

Last year? How you just gonna ignore THIS year?

Don't take it as an insult, most people are casual/average fans. I don't expect anyone to watch football the way I do. I monitor body language on the sidelines, my g. I have a sickness.

But I'll break it down for you out of love, this ain't no arguing shyt.

Stefon Diggs caught 63 passes last year in Minnesota. He caught more than DOUBLE that, 127, this year. Diggs never made a Pro Bowl in Minnesota. Diggs was always #2 behind Adam Thielen in Minnesota. Stefon Diggs' track record does not indicate THIS type of season.

The truth behind Josh's improved accuracy is his improved FOOTWORK. I saw that when he came into the league because I'm insane when it comes to this shyt. Don't ever say you watch football like me because you'd be insulting yourself. I dedicate way too much time to this, breh. Josh's completion % was low in college because he was often running for his life and NEVER set his feet. But his mechanics have developed. His hip rotation has FAR more to do with his completion % than Diggs. Again, I WATCH these games and throws closely. It's not just about numbers, it's about BALL PLACEMENT. Where are the receiver's hands as he catches the ball? Does he have to outstretch them? Does the receiver have to stop or turn around to catch the ball? All of this matters when comparing the elite. Josh and Deshaun BOTH put the ball right there more often than Mahomes, regardless of who the receiver is. Kelce and Hill stay pirouetting in the air making amazing catches because the pass is a little off. Then they have the speed to take off and gain more yards for Mahomes' stat sheet.

Best thrown Mahomes made last night was the joint Tyreek dropped. Stat sheet said 0-1, 0 yards, 0.0 passer rating. Eye test said best throw of the night.

Josh Allen completed 69% of his passes for a whole season. Watson completed 70%. Mahomes has never completed more than 66%. He doesn't even beat them by the numbers test, let alone the eye.

Diggs played in a super run heavy offense the last year in Minny and was used as primarily a deep threat. When Defilippo was the OC in Minny Kirk’s first year he got more targets all over the field and had 102 catches.

If you’ve seen Diggs you’d know this type of season was in him.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Last year? How you just gonna ignore THIS year?

Don't take it as an insult, most people are casual/average fans. I don't expect anyone to watch football the way I do. I monitor body language on the sidelines, my g. I have a sickness.

But I'll break it down for you out of love, this ain't no arguing shyt.

Stefon Diggs caught 63 passes last year in Minnesota. He caught more than DOUBLE that, 127, this year. Diggs never made a Pro Bowl in Minnesota. Diggs was always #2 behind Adam Thielen in Minnesota. Stefon Diggs' track record does not indicate THIS type of season.

The truth behind Josh's improved accuracy is his improved FOOTWORK. I saw that when he came into the league because I'm insane when it comes to this shyt. Don't ever say you watch football like me because you'd be insulting yourself. I dedicate way too much time to this, breh. Josh's completion % was low in college because he was often running for his life and NEVER set his feet. But his mechanics have developed. His hip rotation has FAR more to do with his completion % than Diggs. Again, I WATCH these games and throws closely. It's not just about numbers, it's about BALL PLACEMENT. Where are the receiver's hands as he catches the ball? Does he have to outstretch them? Does the receiver have to stop or turn around to catch the ball? All of this matters when comparing the elite. Josh and Deshaun BOTH put the ball right there more often than Mahomes, regardless of who the receiver is. Kelce and Hill stay pirouetting in the air making amazing catches because the pass is a little off. Then they have the speed to take off and gain more yards for Mahomes' stat sheet.

Best thrown Mahomes made last night was the joint Tyreek dropped. Stat sheet said 0-1, 0 yards, 0.0 passer rating. Eye test said best throw of the night.

Josh Allen completed 69% of his passes for a whole season. Watson completed 70%. Mahomes has never completed more than 66%. He doesn't even beat them by the numbers test, let alone the eye.

Allen was not constantly running for his life in college stop, second I’m far from novice or casual, and if we gon talk Turkey pull these all 22 that you have access to of Allen mahomes and Watson

now i found this against boise st in 17 his footwork looks decent, but for all intents and purposes this was at the level of the school he was attending so it should be an even match, he had 3-4 seconds per throw, he often left the pocket early( because he felt he could out run most the defense or shake them off) i saw errant throws and and bad reads, foot work helps but either you are accurate or you aren’t,




he has improved no doubt, but Diggs caught a majority of his balls on no more than 20 yards so how fukking accurate do you have to be to hit a motherfukker 20 yards away


And last i checked none of these teams played the same schedule so how can you honestly compare i know good and damn well i saw plenty of passes behind wrs on simple drags from Allen i also saw him lead them with a good throw too

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

Two things can be true

You can acknowledge Brady is the GOAT and has done enough to solidify himself as that no matter what Pat does from here on out (because Pat will need to have a near impossible run of success to catch up to Brady, much less surpass him). You can also acknowledge Pat Mahomes is an amazing QB who doesn't need to be force fed into "His career is going to end up like _______" narratives. No. Mahomes is Mahomes. Appreciate what he is and have fun watching what should be a top 5 QB career of all time when all is said and done.

 

[Stone]

David and White’s speed.....

Literally the difference in the game, Chiefs Oline wasn’t good against Buffalo either but they didn’t have the coverage on the back end to match.