PART TWO: Are '90s Rappers Held To A Lower Standard As Artists?

[OnlyInCalifornia]

snow would have got spins in 2000

You think so? I personally do not but am curious on your opinion why.

Soulja Boy is a poor example and I say that as someone who thinks hes the fukking worst. The reason I say he's a poor example is because what he lacked in lyrics he made up for in resourcefulness, smarts, and hard work. He played the Internet game right. He was making YouTube videos, he was all over Myspace making posts, he saw the wave and fukking paddled hard....the kid was hustling, period.

I could be wrong but I think that is what @Wacky D is getting at. You needed a little bit more 'hustle' in the 2000s.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

3. so u telling me DL4, franchise boyz, soldier bio, who da fukk ever made stanky leg, chicken noodle soup, da dougie etc....etc.... made a bunch of mixtapes/freestlyes/DVD's before these gimmicks bullshyt songs blew up

i cant tell u bout the chicken noodle soup shyt..

but everything else..were local hits..that cross to other places in the south...n whatever the kids was fukkin with..blew it up...

its over 30 hood dvds in dallas with nikkas d-town boogie'in, dougie..n stanky leggin...enough ppl get behind it..its gone blow u like it or not

 

[shopthatwrecks]

You think so? I personally do not but am curious on your opinion why.

informer is no different from this is why im hot...tipsy..it wasnt me(shaggy) or none of the bullshyt sean paul...had...

 

[kingofnyc]

The fact you are too dense to understand a simple point, that even a crappy gimmicky rapper like Snow could have a #1 record and sit in the top 10 of HIP HOP CHARTS in the 90s, says a lot about you.

Ill never understand why posters have such a hard time staying in context of the topic at hand. Wacky D is saying the 90s had a lower point of entry, I provided an example of someone who benefitted from the lower point of entry. Pretty fukking simple.

That NYC public education system tho....

the fact u continue to use a white canadian reggae artist as a rapper to make a hip hop point is fukking unbelievable




guess u never heard the term 'apples n oranges'

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

informer is no different from this is why im hot...tipsy..it wasnt me(shaggy) or none of the bullshyt sean paul...had...

Shaggy was from the 90s though.....

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Shaggy was from the 90s though.....

it wasnt me was a 2000 song tho

shaggy's boombastic came out 3 yrs after informer...5yrs later it wasnt me dropped...

snow could have made it in 2000...it was so many 1 hit wonders

every yr in music its always a debate about wouldnt make it in present time...gangam style should shut that whole argument up

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

it wasnt me was a 2000 song tho

shaggy's boombastic came out 3 yrs after informer...5yrs later it wasnt me dropped...

snow could have made it in 2000...it was so many 1 hit wonders

every yr in music its always a debate about wouldnt make it in present time...gangam style should shut that whole argument up

Shaggy had name recognition already, he shouldn't be counted.

All those 1 hit wonders were grinding regionally. Even Nelly was hustling for a full year and a half before his first single took off. Snow literally just flew in....

Let's get off Snow for a minute, what about Ini Kamoze? Tag Team?

 

[kingofnyc]

i cant tell u bout the chicken noodle soup shyt..

but everything else..were local hits..that cross to other places in the south...n whatever the kids was fukkin with..blew it up...

its over 30 hood dvds in dallas with nikkas d-town boogie'in, dougie..n stanky leggin...enough ppl get behind it..its gone blow u like it or not

i understand

and eventually those gimmicks song/dance blew up across the country -the fact those artist blew up locally 1st dosnt mean snow didnt do the same in whatever city or place in canada he from

thats what i dont understand about @OnlyInCalifornia point & this @Wacky D thread ?

its nothing personal
IMO it just dosnt make sense

 

[Lord Mecca]

Informer was classified a Hip-Hop/R&B/Pop song dependant on region. Yes, Snow doesn't "rap", but there wasn't a mainstream category for him in many regions to classify him "reggae" so that's where they slid him in. They've been doing that type of thing for years.

And I dunno how out of that single going platinum the track didn't get play in NY... it's featuring and produced by MC Shan... I'm pretty sure that held some weight in sales in that region.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Naughty By Nature made some of the best hooks of all time plus memorable verses. At some point the hook became more important than the verse for some reason

 

[delnegro]

Informer was not in rotation on the radio in NYC. Had it not been for The Box( the video request channel) I would have never heard it. There's tons of songs that were hits nationally that wasn't in rotation in NYC. Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Paperboy, Skeelo, Tone Loc, Young MC, etc were not in heavy rotation in the mecca of Hip Hop.

 

[kingofnyc]

Informer was not in rotation on the radio in NYC. Had it not been for The Box( the video request channel) I would have never heard it. There's tons of songs that were hits nationally that wasn't in rotation in NYC. Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Paperboy, Skeelo, Tone Loc, Young MC, etc were not in heavy rotation in the mecca of Hip Hop.

been trying to tell dude this - like u, i would have never heard the song if it wasnt for the video MTV played it in rotation & i still never realize how big the song was until 'in living color' did this classic shyt










i miss dem dayz

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Just like @BmoreGorilla said.. once the hook became the main focus it was a wrap for 90s artists... the focus was more on the lyrical content of the song .. shyt most of 90s artists hooks where scratched from other records.. once JaRule started signing hooks... the game been a wrap.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Shaggy had name recognition already, he shouldn't be counted.

All those 1 hit wonders were grinding regionally. Even Nelly was hustling for a full year and a half before his first single took off. Snow literally just flew in....

Let's get off Snow for a minute, what about Ini Kamoze? Tag Team?

tag team would have made it...some major sports stadiums still play their music

inikamoze would have too..from 89-2009...u had gimmicks and one hit wonders who came in went

 

[DrexlersFade]

i miss dem dayz

Bruh


You need a black man too boost your credibility,fukk hooks them shyts garbarge