Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

[seemorecizzy]

A left handed volume puncher, with just as fast or even faster hand speed, more power, that throws in 2-3-4 punch combinations from weird angles, and can close the distance quickly due to his fast foot speed, is NOT an orthodox counter puncher's dream breh



In general, a counter puncher's weakness is a volume puncher/swarmer/pressure fighter.

a counter punchers dream is a boxer who comes in recklessly and open for counter shots (as well as some of the things you posted above)

some people think pacquaio is just gonna take floyds counters and keep rushing in the same way over and over again
i just dont see it.At some point in the fight pacquaio is gonna get confused and frustrated especially if he ain't landing clean.

he can throw 3-4 punch combos if he wants, how much are gonna land and whats coming back at him is the question

 

[seemorecizzy]

i feel you, but on the other side of things. even if manny doesn't land a ton of hard shots, judges LOVE activity. Just look at most fights today, most of the time the nikka that lands the most shots is gonna win. May gotta be ready to fight a good pace for 12 full rounds against the best fighter he has EVER faced by far.

Not to compare MAB, Marquez, and Morales to May, but PAC beat all three of them nikkas twice, IMO.

May aint never been in with a fighter that was anywhere close to a prime Morales, marquez or MAB (even tho Morales and MAB was little ). When you spend all day training with the sheep, how can you expect to run with the wolves?



With all that being said, May wins 8-4 or 7-5

i dont agree at all but i'll leave that for another day

manny might throw more punches then floyd, but i don't see him landing more

you have a point about activity and perception and who knows what kinda blow these vegas judges are gonna be on that night

thinking back, if that canelo fight was even remotely close, canelo woulda got the decision

i just hope we get a clear and fair victory one way or the other

 

[Raw Lyrics]

what could he have in common with him?

 

[Newzz]

a counter punchers dream is a boxer who comes in recklessly and open for counter shots (as well as some of the things you posted above)

some people think pacquaio is just gonna take floyds counters and keep rushing in the same way over and over again
i just dont see it.At some point in the fight pacquaio is gonna get confused and frustrated especially if he ain't landing clean.

he can throw 3-4 punch combos if he wants, how much are gonna land and whats coming back at him is the question

But, the question was can he win off activity alone....and the answer is yes.


If Floyd is content to try and potshot all fight, and if Manny is constantly coming foward...pressuring him/swarming him, throwing 2x the amount of punches per round, yes, he can steal the rounds and ultimately steal the fight. We just seen Maidana almost do that in Floyd vs Maidana 1 off of activity alone.


Speaking of activity, in their last 3 fights respectively, Pacquiao is averaging 56 punches thrown a round (672 a fight) while Floyd is at 34 punches a round (408 a fight). That's a telling stat being that in 2 of those 3 fights, Floyd was fighting a pure pressure fighter (a MUCH lesser fighter than Pacquiao skill wise) and struggled heavily with Maidana's awkwardness and pressure before finally adjusting in round 6 of the 1st fight. Fight was a MD and most people, even though feeling Floyd won, had it a 7-5/8-4 affair......against Marcos Maidana. Manny Pacquiao is a whole 'nother beast and if Maidana can get 5 rounds, Pacquiao can steal the fight from Floyd if Floyd isnt on point. Plus the judges usually prefer Manny's forward aggressive style to Floyd's potshot and move style....and we know why that is


So yes. Manny CAN win off of activity alone. Throwing 18 more punches a round, for 12 rounds, adds up to 216 more chances the judges can see Pacquiao land some good shots and the crowd can scream and go over it, even punches he miss....swaying the judges' opinions.


Floyd is gonna have to be DEADLY accurate and landing FLUSH with power behind it if he's gonna fight his normal slow paced, counter style against Pacquiao, or he can be outworked imo.



Im personally expecting Floyd to do just that though

 

[GzUp]

Floyd most likely not using the shoulder roll stance would let me to believe that his defense would suffer.

hes going to depend on seeing the punch come and move his head really quick and at the same time counter.

manny would have to be really quick.

 

[GzUp]

 

[Newzz]

Floyd most likely not using the shoulder roll stance would let me to believe that his defense would suffer.

hes going to depend on seeing the punch come and move his head really quick and at the same time counter.

manny would have to be really quick.

Definitely will be a game of chess. Who's better at their style and who can impose it more effectively


Im betting on Floyd though

 

[Newzz]

The handspeed and punching while circling to the heavybag's (Floyd's) left


Pacquiao is gonna be 100% conditioned to go 12 at a fast pace it seems. Floyd's gonna need to invest in the body work to slow him down.

 

[GzUp]

The handspeed and punching while circling to the heavybag's (Floyd's) left


Pacquiao is gonna be 100% conditioned to go 12 at a fast pace it seems. Floyd's gonna need to invest in the body work to slow him down.

it would boil down to what we have always seen in floyds fight, they all respect his power... will floyds power make manny feel some type of way?.. manny already believes cotto and marg are bigger hitters.

 

[GzUp]

Definitely will be a game of chess. Who's better at their style and who can impose it more effectively


Im betting on Floyd though

whats a trip is it can get ugly or lopsided on which stlye wins... if floyds stlye wins we will see a schooling, if manny style wins it will get ugly.

 

[HamAndEgger]

When Manny feels Floyd's power:

When Floyd sees Manny's speed:

 

[Newzz]

whats a trip is it can get ugly or lopsided on which stlye wins... if floyds stlye wins we will see a schooling, if manny style wins it will get ugly.

And the fact that we now know Pac has 4 S & C coaches....he's gonna be on Super Saiyan Mode in the ring


With Floyd using Memo and Ariza, we might see a return of Pac-Man AND Pretty Boy Floyd on the same night brehs


I REALLY want this to be the best Boxing match I've ever seen

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

U think manny can beat Floyd on activity alone?... Similar to the close Castillo fight?

No because Manny isn't an effective pressure fighter...in order to be an effective pressure fighter have have to be good at cutting off the ring...Manny doesn't do that...

Packeyow will be as active in this fight as he was against JMM which is not enough for him to win this fight IMO...

 

[GzUp]

No because Manny isn't an effective pressure fighter...in order to be an effective pressure fighter have have to be good at cutting off the ring...Manny doesn't do that...

Packeyow will be as active in this fight as he was against JMM which is not enough for him to win this fight IMO...

thats a good point.. u would think it would be easy to know how to cut off a ring, like it could be learned immidiatly.

 

[Newzz]

No because Manny isn't an effective pressure fighter...in order to be an effective pressure fighter have have to be good at cutting off the ring...Manny doesn't do that...

Packeyow will be as active in this fight as he was against JMM which is not enough for him to win this fight IMO...

He's more of a swarmer than pressure fighter.