Overrated NBA players (Past & Present)

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You gotta be trolling right now!!!

He says all he does is shoot 3s and play defense...so basically or he does is score points and play defense :why:

What does harden do....Score? How does he do that? run to the lane and scream ahhhhh ref and heads to the line! :pacspit: Wasn't harden shooting like below 40% for like the majority of the season :scusthov:

We not even gonna debate hardens defense cuz we both know thats non existence.

Harden is just a big flopper mane. Look at this kid mane

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Are you seriously trying to argue right now that Klay > Harden? Say what you want about Harden's defense in past seasons, but he's proven that he can carry a team and be a #1 option. His ability to score is so far above Klay's that it's not funny. His ball handling and facilitating are also significantly better and are underrated aspects of his game. When has Klay done anything to prove he can be the focal point of an offense? Never. We all know his game would suffer tremendously if Curry was ever out for an extended period of time because of his inability to consistently create his own shot
 

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Well here's how I feel about Rodman: he's the best non-big rebounder the game has ever seen and one of the most versatile defenders as well. But he was such a liability on the offensive end of the floor that he would solely get in position to grab offensive rebounds and score on putbacks. IMO I don't think that's HOF material except under the condition that we induct 1 player at every position who was the best at what they did. If we're going to induct a player into the HOF because they were the best SF rebounder of all time and the one of the most versatile SF defenders, then he deserves to be in. If not, then I don't see a reason for him to get in when other players with more deserving resumes haven't been inducted

So do you think Ben Wallace or even Mutombo are overrated?? They were just Rodman-esque centers

Kidd is a HOF'er regardless, but he's overrated because he was a rather poor shooter his entire career. When you average only 40% for your career, you're inefficient. Allen Iverson is generally regarded as an inefficient shotjacker (which he is), and he shot 42% for his career

A dude with the 5th most 3-pointers in NBA history is a poor shooter :usure:
 

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So do you think Ben Wallace or even Mutombo are overrated?? They were just Rodman-esque centers


When you play C, it's not expected that you contribute a ton offensively. When you play SF, it's almost a prerequisite to be able to shoot or score. Wallace was never HOF material but his defense was so good that he got a pass for it the same way that Rodman did. Mutombo at least had a decent post game and scored in double figures every year for the first 10 seasons of his career, it's not like he was ever trash offensively. Dont forget he averaged 17/12 during his rookie season and his scoring dipped as the Nuggets gained scoring options around him. I've already admitted Rodman's the best non-big rebounder in NBA history and an extremely versatile defender. But does that make somebody a HOF'er or an extremely good role player?


A dude with the 5th most 3-pointers in NBA history is a poor shooter :usure:

Anyone who's watched Kidd over the years knows that he wasn't a consistent 3 point shooter until maybe his later years in Dallas. He was 35% from 3 point range for his career. Again, that's not the knock on him. He was generally inefficient, as backed by his poor FG% for his career. He's maybe the best rebounding PG of all time and one of the best facilitators and playmakers in NBA history and his defense is underrated. But offense was not his strong suit and if you asked him to carry the team himself scoring wise it didnt usually end well
 

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no they're not
They really are. They are the only players who are expected to win alone. When they can't, it's because they are too selfish. They should have signed for dollars. Meawhile LeBron forms a super team, goes to 4 finals and he slurped endless, decides the superteam isn't good enough, creates another superteam and it's all Coach Blatt' fault. Kyrie & Love need to learn how to become better players.
 

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They really are. They are the only players who are expected to win alone. When they can't, it's because they are too selfish. They should have signed for dollars. Meawhile LeBron forms a super team, goes to 4 finals and he slurped endless, decides the superteam isn't good enough, creates another superteam and it's all Coach Blatt' fault. Kyrie & Love need to learn how to become better players.

they're not overrated nor are they underrated :yeshrug: they're rated fairly IMO
 
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When you play C, it's not expected that you contribute a ton offensively. When you play SF, it's almost a prerequisite to be able to shoot or score. Wallace was never HOF material but his defense was so good that he got a pass for it the same way that Rodman did. Mutombo at least had a decent post game and scored in double figures every year for the first 10 seasons of his career, it's not like he was ever trash offensively. Dont forget he averaged 17/12 during his rookie season and his scoring dipped as the Nuggets gained scoring options around him. I've already admitted Rodman's the best non-big rebounder in NBA history and an extremely versatile defender. But does that make somebody a HOF'er or an extremely good role player?




Anyone who's watched Kidd over the years knows that he wasn't a consistent 3 point shooter until maybe his later years in Dallas. He was 35% from 3 point range for his career. Again, that's not the knock on him. He was generally inefficient, as backed by his poor FG% for his career. He's maybe the best rebounding PG of all time and one of the best facilitators and playmakers in NBA history and his defense is underrated. But offense was not his strong suit and if you asked him to carry the team himself scoring wise it didnt usually end well


FOH, nikka took Keith Van Horn, Kerry Kittles, Lucious Harris, and Todd MacCoulloch to the finals.
 

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When you play C, it's not expected that you contribute a ton offensively. When you play SF, it's almost a prerequisite to be able to shoot or score. Wallace was never HOF material but his defense was so good that he got a pass for it the same way that Rodman did. Mutombo at least had a decent post game and scored in double figures every year for the first 10 seasons of his career, it's not like he was ever trash offensively. Dont forget he averaged 17/12 during his rookie season and his scoring dipped as the Nuggets gained scoring options around him. I've already admitted Rodman's the best non-big rebounder in NBA history and an extremely versatile defender. But does that make somebody a HOF'er or an extremely good role player?




Anyone who's watched Kidd over the years knows that he wasn't a consistent 3 point shooter until maybe his later years in Dallas. He was 35% from 3 point range for his career. Again, that's not the knock on him. He was generally inefficient, as backed by his poor FG% for his career. He's maybe the best rebounding PG of all time and one of the best facilitators and playmakers in NBA history and his defense is underrated. But offense was not his strong suit and if you asked him to carry the team himself scoring wise it didnt usually end well
Why would you ask your point guard to carry the scoring load? Aren't scoring pg's frowned upon?
 

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FOH, nikka took Keith Van Horn, Kerry Kittles, Lucious Harris, and Todd MacCoulloch to the finals.

People say the same thing about AI carrying a 76ers team to the Finals, but the truth is that those teams would have been a 1st round exit in the West. But the Eastern Conference was so unbelievably bad that they were able to make it out of the East. Saying he made them the best team in the East is like pointing out the smartest kid on the retard bus, it's not anything to be proud of. I give Kidd credit for him turning a 29 win team into a 52 win team but do you really think they deserved to be anywhere near the Finals, especially given the fact that they were the #1 team in the East with only 52 wins?

Why would you ask your point guard to carry the scoring load? Aren't scoring pg's frowned upon?

To answer your question, yes I do tend to frown upon score first PGs, but that doesn't change the fact that he couldnt when needed to and was an inefficient shooter
 
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