Over/Under ObamaCare gets Repealed? *Edit* Entire Law Upheld

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Actually, that last statement he made isn't that far off. When they expanded the freeway system during and after the Eisenhower admin, it helped whites going out to burbs far away from blacks, so they didn't have to stay only in the inner suburbs. They also used the freeway system to destroy some good railroad track back then and messed up urban communities (which had new blacks in them at the time). I used to call the interstate highway system, the white flight subsidy bill along with others bills passed back in the 40s/50s, when we discussed this in the department. Depending on the school/professor, this is taught in economic development classes and some urban planning classes as well.

With that said is over and done with now and in the past. I'd rather have the freeway than currently be w/o one, lol.
 

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LOL @ this passage being included on the decision from Ruth Ginsburg

By requiring most residents to obtain insurance, see Mass. Gen. Laws, ch. 111M, §2 (West 2011), the Commonwealth ensured that insurers would not be left with only the sick as customers. As a result, federal lawmakers observed, Massachusetts succeeded where other States had failed. See Brief for Commonwealth of Massachusetts as Amicus Curiae in No. 11–398, p. 3 (not*ing that the Commonwealth’s reforms reduced the number of uninsured residents to less than 2%, the lowest rate in the Nation, and cut the amount of uncompensated care by a third); 42 U. S. C. §18091(2)(D) (2006 ed., Supp. IV) (noting the success of Massachusetts’ reforms). In cou*pling the minimum coverage provision with guaranteed* issue and community-rating prescriptions, Congress followed Massachusetts' lead.
 

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I have to say....this is some bullshyt.

I don't want or need health insurance

I been off that shyt.

I pay out of pocket for regular check ups.

Other than that...my immune system is always on beast mode. I never get sick and don't have nothing wrong with me, and I take care of myself to keep it that way. I am willing to risk something happening to me and I'll just foot cash for the bill :manny:

Noone else concerns me...I don't really care whether the next man has insurance or not...not my fukking problem.

As a completely independent voter, This could push me to pull the lever for Romney in November.

Im not trying to be forced to get some shyt I don't need or want. Thats some bullshyt!

Penalize my income tax for not getting health insurance? fukk OUTTA HERE WITH THAT BULLshyt ASS shyt
Who is going to pay the bill if you get injured in a major car crash? :beli:
 

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I have to say....this is some bullshyt.

I don't want or need health insurance

I been off that shyt.

I pay out of pocket for regular check ups.

Other than that...my immune system is always on beast mode. I never get sick and don't have nothing wrong with me, and I take care of myself to keep it that way. I am willing to risk something happening to me and I'll just foot cash for the bill :manny:

Noone else concerns me...I don't really care whether the next man has insurance or not...not my fukking problem.

As a completely independent voter, This could push me to pull the lever for Romney in November.

Im not trying to be forced to get some shyt I don't need or want. Thats some bullshyt!

Penalize my income tax for not getting health insurance? fukk OUTTA HERE WITH THAT BULLshyt ASS shyt

1% of your income or $95, depending on which is higher. Do you really care? :manny:
 
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Actually, that last statement he made isn't that far off. When they expanded the freeway system during and after the Eisenhower admin, it helped whites going out to burbs far away from blacks, so they didn't have to stay only in the inner suburbs. They also used the freeway system to destroy some good railroad track back then and messed up urban communities (which had new blacks in them at the time). I used to call the interstate highway system, the white flight subsidy bill along with others bills passed back in the 40s/50s, when we discussed this in the department. Depending on the school/professor, this is taught in economic development classes and some urban planning classes as well.

With that said is over and done with now and in the past. I'd rather have the freeway than currently be w/o one, lol.


Your forgetting the fact there is a demand for mass transit in a high density urban areas--Areas like the East Coast orTokyo. When freeway systems were developed, they allowed for sprawl, which spread the population out more thinly over a larger area. Not only did the Car-oriented freeway system (a system the catered to an Individual car and driver) lower the demand for mass transit, but, I feel it's reasonable to assume that the costs of Mass transit increase as the population spreads out over a larger distance. So the Freeway system not only lowered Demand for mass transit, it increased the costs of mass transit, because of the Sprawl it created.
 

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Think about a production function in a general sense. If outputs are greater than inputs, then there is profit and resources are used efficiently. If outputs are less than inputs, then valuable resources are being put to waste. governments have to subsidize the latter not the former.

Brilliant. So by your logic, since the US highway system cost about $425 billion in input without any direct output besides paltry toll collection, we should no longer subsidize the US highway system.

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Your forgetting the fact there is a demand for mass transit in a high density urban areas--Areas like the East Coast orTokyo. When freeway systems were developed, they allowed for sprawl, which spread the population out more thinly over a larger area. Not only did the Car-oriented freeway system (a system the catered to an Individual car and driver) lower the demand for mass transit, but, I feel it's reasonable to assume that the costs of Mass transit increase as the population spreads out over a larger distance. So the Freeway system not only lowered Demand for mass transit, it increased the costs of mass transit, because of the Sprawl it created.

But the trains in and around Tokyo are a public function now. I forgot if they started off privately like how Amtrak (before it was called that DBA) and other mass transits did here. Yeah, the sprawl lowered demand for mass transit that's sort of evident. Back then, why need it when gas was cheap and everyone preferred a automobile and rather not deal with on another.

I looked at the history of it from an urban planning/economic development side since that went into one of my areas of interests. If you have links, books, or vids (try on unbiased ones if possible) about sprawl and the history of mass transit, drop some links for me and the others. Its been a while since I dabbled into that field, that was more of a friend of mines interest to where he sparked me to look more into it myself when he was pitching transit ideas to local officials.
 

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But the trains in and around Tokyo are a public function now. I forgot if they started off privately like how Amtrak (before it was called that DBA) and other mass transits did here. Yeah, the sprawl lowered demand for mass transit that's sort of evident. Back then, why need it when gas was cheap and everyone preferred a automobile and rather not deal with on another.

I looked at the history of it from an urban planning/economic development side since that went into one of my areas of interests. If you have links, books, or vids (try on unbiased ones if possible) about sprawl and the history of mass transit, drop some links for me and the others. Its been a while since I dabbled into that field, that was more of a friend of mines interest to where he sparked me to look more into it myself when he was pitching transit ideas to local officials.

this is a good blog that deals with those types of issues

The Urbanophile
 
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