Over a million households in Ukraine are without power after a massive Russian aerial attack hit critical energy infrastructure

[African Peasant]

The point is then Russia will do the same thing in few years once it rebuilds its army again

Then Ukraine should just let Russia have rest of the country too?

Then it might go even further and try to take another neighboring country.

If you let Russia have it it’s way, then China will do the same with Taiwan. And other dictator countries will try to do the same knowing that nothing will stop them

Are you fine you’re neighbor occupying one of your rooms and then try to claim another few? Will you just accept it and keep it moving?

I wouldn’t want to have kids in this world knowing there’s isn’t a greater force that can stop dictators around the world have it their way

So your solution is Ukrainians suiciding themselves?

 

[African Peasant]

What makes you think Russia won't go for more than the dunbass and crimea? Russia already promised they wouldn't invade in the 90s and did it multiple times, Putin wants everything east of Poland.

And how Ukraine killing its last hope of surviving solve this?


If they send their 18 yo to fight, they DONE

 

[And you]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

All these people cheering for Ukraine are white

 

[Entelechy]

All these people cheering for Ukraine are white

Is Ukraine spending tens of millions of dollars to reduce the power of the Black American voting bloc through online propaganda? Is Ukraine sending mercenaries to the middle of Africa to kill Black men and rape Black women?

We aren't cheering for Ukraine. We're cheering against Russia.

You should already know that, comrade

 

[Wild self]

No he is a one of your fellow Biden/Kamala Harris Democratic Shills who happens to be a batty boy:




You were just talking about food prices going up because of the Ukraine war and he talking about food prices going up. You Batty Democratic Shills all talk the same lol:

I don't waste time searching for things I don't like from accounts that don't lean to the way I think. Much less BS that strangely happens to be on your mind 24/7.

Something that you not telling us? That gay shyt on your mind 24/7.

 

[Json]

There's a ton of oil and other energy related resources in Russia, but it's not easy to get out of the ground.

But that’s what I mean.

How many empires came across a land of vast resources and just said nah. Even just keeping it as a Raj like Britain and India. You make the Russians work for you.

With access to the North Pole being more likely from climate change, Russia is strategically advantaged. And everyone probably would have let Putin stay in power if he had just turned around early in this conflict.

China could definitely just take Moscow with so much of its forces directed to the west.

 

[aXiom]

The bolded is false. What evidence do you have to suggest that Putin desires to fully take on NATO and precipitate a Third World War which will kill everyone on this planet? Putin's a pragmatist. Ukraine is not in NATO or the EU. It could join them, but invading Ukraine has forestalled any such action.

Invading Crimea was a reaction to the Western sponsored Maidan Revolution which would have placed a NATO state on Russia's borders (prior to Finland joining NATO in 2023).

Of course, the seizure of Crimea was a violation of international law, but unfortunately Russia has utilized Western precedent from Kosovo's Western-backed unilateral secession from Serbia as a backdoor way to annex Crimea.

I said nothing about invading NATO countries, that would be the end of Russia. Putin's whole angle has been trying to scare NATO just enough with nuclear threats to not call his bluff. And while there has been some really questionable calls/moves made, and still being made by NATO throughout this whole war, it's still a net positive for NATO, just at Ukraine's expense(not saying i'm ok with this, just that i understand).

So I'll reword the question, if you're saying Putin's main motivation for invading Ukraine was solely to stop another potential NATO border member, yet this move backfired and allowed for the swift addition of 2 much more capable NATO members on Russia's border. So, what now?

I don't get the blaming Biden or NATO for a situation Putin put himself in. It's 2024, not 1424 or 1924.. you can't just invade other sovereign nations and just expect the rest for he world to be cool with it. I really hate Russia as a country in its current state and have a plethora of reasons for why i think it should not exist, but that's its own thread.

 

[QU Hectic]

No he is a one of your fellow Biden/Kamala Harris Democratic Shills who happens to be a batty boy:




You were just talking about food prices going up because of the Ukraine war and he talking about food prices going up. You Batty Democratic Shills all talk the same lol:

In truly sick and tired if this party. Tru tru gawd

 

[aXiom]

u.s convinced them to give up their nukes and assured them they would have our protection. lesson learned, no one will ever give up nukes and countries will start seeking nukes or other weapons of mass destruction to deter being invaded.

Did we really though? Or did we give them some false assurance with some vague wording that could be interpreted a number of ways.


Thing is, my point still stands, especially given the current climate.. even with the sanctions, and with help from north korea, Russia is managing to outproduce NATO's support. They're even making more drones than them. There's too much indecisiveness and every decision that could have possibly given Ukraine some inflection points throughout has come too little too late or after Russia has escalated to a new degree.

If any peace deal is reached where Russia gets to keep any part of Ukraine, good luck trying to stop Iran from going full rocket boosters towards nukes and trying to keep treating KJU with kiddie gloves with the new duracells Putin just put in his back.

Moral of the story. Don't give up your nukes.

 

[MikelArteta]

Bunch of Pro-Russian agents and c00ns trying to gaslight us into not hating one of the most antiblack countries on Earth

Russian trolls' chief target was 'black US voters' in 2016

A Senate intelligence report says no other group was more targeted in the 2016 election.

www.bbc.com

Russia and Black Lives Matter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

‘They turn our farms into rape centres’: Russian mercenaries accused of abuse in Central African Republic

A rise in sexual violence means food prices have leapt in CAR as women and girls say they fear working in the fields

www.theguardian.com

ukraine is more anti black than russia

 

[Fill Collins]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

Ukrainian and Russian lives do no matter to me whatsoever, they need to speed this shyt up or just start WW3

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I said nothing about invading NATO countries, that would be the end of Russia. Putin's whole angle has been trying to scare NATO just enough with nuclear threats to not call his bluff. And while there has been some really questionable calls/moves made, and still being made by NATO throughout this whole war, it's still a net positive for NATO, just at Ukraine's expense(not saying i'm ok with this, just that i understand).

So I'll reword the question, if you're saying Putin's main motivation for invading Ukraine was solely to stop another potential NATO border member, yet this move backfired and allowed for the swift addition of 2 much more capable NATO members on Russia's border. So, what now?

I don't get the blaming Biden or NATO for a situation Putin put himself in. It's 2024, not 1424 or 1924.. you can't just invade other sovereign nations and just expect the rest for he world to be cool with it. I really hate Russia as a country in its current state and have a plethora of reasons for why i think it should not exist, but that's its own thread.

Strengthening ties with China and North Korea

Arming the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Iran

Strengthening anti Western governments in Africa

Based upon your principled stance, the world should have put sanctions and waged a proxy war against America from 2003 onwards. From Bush onwards, every US president should be charged by the ICC for continuing to occupy Iraq. Don’t you agree?


Russia has existed in some way or form for 1000 years. It’s probably not going anywhere. America is a far younger project based on white supremacy, as opposed to Russian ethnic domination, and as a result - will experience white nativist politics (ie Trump) as it becomes more and more non-white. An increasingly precarious settler colonial state.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

ukraine is more anti black than russia

This kind of manipulation doesn't work. And it is shameful for another Black person to try to exploit anti-Black racism as a wedge, especially in defense of Russia. A country that's been flooding the US with millions in anti-Black propaganda in support of animals like Trump and the rest of the far-right extremists we have to deal with here. I'll never travel to Ukraine. And I don't care about them on a personal level. There's no personal attachment. That's why your tactic does nothing to change the belief that they have a right to fight back against Russia's aggression to secure their sovereignty.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Did you read any of the articles I posted, regarding peace overtures that were made between Ukraine and Russia in April 2022 that were stopped by Washington and London?

On another note, let me provide an analogous scenario for you:

If the Canadian government, friendly to the United States, was toppled by regime change engineered by the Kremlin to eventually have Canada join a Russian security alliance that would station Russian troops near the US border, how do you think the United States would react?

Finally, surely you're aware that the United States leads a global empire that has most of Europe, via NATO, as its vassal states?

I use Mexico as the analogy.

If Mexico suddenly stared allying with Russia, China and NK and would allow them to put military bases in Mexico.

We would take over Mexico tomorrow if that happened.

I don't root for Russia, but if NATO was in Ukraine that would be like the opps on your porch.

I can understand what Putin is trying to do.

Not sure how to get out of this seemingly global conflict without Russia or Ukraine totally collapsing. Sad to say but Ukraine is the more likely casualty.

 

[Cave Savage]

I use Mexico as the analogy.

If Mexico suddenly stared allying with Russia, China and NK and would allow them to put military bases in Mexico.

We would take over Mexico tomorrow if that happened.

I don't root for Russia, but if NATO was in Ukraine that would be like the opps on your porch.

I can understand what Putin is trying to do.

Not sure how to get out of this seemingly global conflict without Russia or Ukraine totally collapsing. Sad to say but Ukraine is the more likely casualty.

Mexico is not part of Russia, while Ukraine is part of Europe.

And if the US started a horrific invasion against Mexico that targeted civilians, I would say they're in the right to receive foreign assistance.