OutKast v Tribe Called Quest Verzuz Coming Soon?!

[TNC]

wu-tang if we're only using their group albums are not fukking with outkast or ATCQ. and bone isn't even in contention to be in the contest.

Bone has bigger hits than any group here named EXCEPT Outkast, ironically and I agree if we are only talking group albums Wu would lose to Outkast and probably Tribe as well. But If you add the solo albums it gets more competitive but even then I think Outkast is gonna win.


Folks don't seem to understand that Outkast IS the greatest duo/group in Hiphop history and they are the most popular and well liked.

 

[avon barksdale]

Outkast hit different..cac even making commercial with their song

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Tribe got straight up classics that can go toe to toe with Kast. Bonita Applebum. Scenario. Check The Rhime. Award Tour. Electric Relaxation. Just to name a few. What singles does Kast have on their first 3 albums fukking with that besides maybe Players Ball and Elevators? And post 2000 what singles does Kast have that would play well in a Versuz besides Ms Jackson, So Fresh So Clean and maybe the Way You Move. Album cuts about even between the two. Ain’t nobody trying to hear Hey Ya, Roses or no damn Prototype

yea, i came in saying that outkast gets the W in a verzus setting easily. BUT the more i think about it, the more its looking 50/50.

comparing their 3 big knockout blows, i think outkast would take 2 of those 3.
but after that, its looking about even, the more i think about it.

even if outkast digs into the dungeon fam collab bag, tribe can do the same with native tongues.

Outkast hit different..cac even making commercial with their song

white folks BEEN incorporating tribe's music.
outkast has alot of catching up to do, in that department actually.

their chit hits the same. and the people who will actually watch this battle, are gonna be those that are huge fans of both groups.

outkast has a further reach with soccer moms & such(who wont be tuning in anyway) but outside of that realm, these groups have the same dam fans. the ultra-pop crowd aint tuning in. hell, i aint tuning in either. im just in here for the debates.

That doesn't necessarily mean anything man. A bunch of gen Z clothing stores sell 90's shirts. I've seen teenagers running around in Wu, Death Row, RUN DMC, Tribe, etc. shirts but couldn't name a single song. Outside of the Pac Death Row stuff, which was completely coincidental.

Fred.

thats not the point

the point is, tribe's legacy is protected enough for that shirt to be sold & purchased.

theyre not old relics from the past who got lost in the history books, like dudes in here are claiming.

sallimsayin.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

yea, i came in saying that outkast gets the W in a verzus setting easily. BUT the more i think about it, the more its looking 50/50.

comparing their 3 big knockout blow, i think outkast would take 2 of those 3.
but after that, its looking about even, the more i think about it.

even if outkast digs into the dungeon fam collab bag, tribe can do the same with native tongues.



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I think people are looking at it thru the wrong lens. Like Tribe doesn’t have a chance becuz Kast was the bigger group. When Kast got huge their music wasn’t as good. Both groups have damn near identical runs as far as quality and number of albums. But imo them Tribe classics hit different. Who don’t know all the words to Scenario? Who wasn’t debating about what that vocal sample was saying in Electric Relaxation? How many songs took the drums from Bonita Applebum? Kast got classics but they don’t have cultural classics which is evident in the fact that they didn’t really inspire that many groups after them

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

the only real advantage outkast has here, is that arrested development voting base.
people are usually in denial about this(cough: @hex @JustCKing), but now its of convenience.

the pop fans arent tuning in.
they have the same rap fanbase.
same r&b fanbase too.
but outkast dug a lil deeper into those r&b pockets. they eventually took that arrested development spot and went further with it. almost venturing into fugees territory. thats gonna help them out here.

I think people are looking at it thru the wrong lens. Like Tribe doesn’t have a chance becuz Kast was the bigger group. When Kast got huge their music wasn’t as good. Both groups have damn near identical runs as far as quality and number of albums. But imo them Tribe classics hit different. Who don’t know all the words to Scenario? Who wasn’t debating about what that vocal sample was saying in Electric Relaxation? How many songs took the drums from Bonita Applebum? Kast got classics but they don’t have cultural classics which is evident in the fact that they didn’t really inspire that many groups after them

THIS. well-said.

outkast never had the cultural impact/influence of the acts that people try to put them ahead off, on the grounds of them doing numbers.

situations like these are a constant reminder of that.

 

[JustCKing]

the only real advantage outkast has here, is that arrested development voting base.

This will always be one of the dumbest takes on this forum. It is even more dumber to introduce this into this thread. Why? Arrested Development is much closer to ATCQ than Kast.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

This will always be one of the dumbest takes on this forum. It is even more dumber to introduce this into this thread. Why? Arrested Development is much closer to ATCQ than Kast.

you still dont get it.
maybe you'd understand if you stopped taking it as an insult.

lol @ the bolded.

 

[JustCKing]

you still dont get it.
maybe you'd understand if you stopped taking it as an insult.

lol @ the bolded.

Breh, regardless of how it is taken, it is a giant reach. You are trying to paint this picture of Kast as a group that connects with fans who don't listen to Hip Hop and are using Arrested to push that argument. Arrested and Kast don't intersect though because Arrested fans would never touch a Kast album. One one hand you have a group that's on an Afrocentric positive vibe that was seen as the antithesis of gangsta rap in Arrested. On the other hand, you have a group that came out rapping about being pimps and players that were conscious, but it was from a more street perspective in Kast.

 

[wild100sboy]

ATCQ>>

 

[avon barksdale]

New generation would turn verse off listen to this.



Nobody wants to hear this in 2020




This is what T.I was talking about with Busta and he got mad.



But outkast can put this on and every generation would enjoy

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Breh, regardless of how it is taken, it is a giant reach. You are trying to paint this picture of Kast as a group that connects with fans who don't listen to Hip Hop and are using Arrested to push that argument. Arrested and Kast don't intersect though because Arrested fans would never touch a Kast album.

arrested development must be before your time.
do you at least pay attention when they get honored at these award shows?? the same type of people that jump out their seats swearing by them, are the same people that pop for outkast at these events. same goes for dudes like Common, and he came out the gate a tad bit harder as well. thats neither here nor there. you always act like it hurts your brain to think out the box a lil bit. just a lil bit. everything isnt A or B. most things arent actually. outkast rapping about pimpin ON THE SLY means nothing. stop trying to act like they were too short.

and lol @ the bolded. if you think im trying to paint a picture, then i dont know what to tell you.
you dudes want outkast to be seen in a different light so badly.
outkast doesnt connect with people who dont listen to hip-hop now???

This is what T.I was talking about with Busta and he got mad.
But outkast can put this on and every generation would enjoy

the new generation isnt trying to hear "git up, get out" either.
nor was it some super smash/landmark record when it was out.

youre lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

theyre not paying attention to this battle. lol.

 

[JustCKing]

arrested development must be before your time.
do you at least pay attention when they get honored at these award shows?? the same type of people that jump out their seats swearing by them, are the same people that pop for outkast at these events. same goes for dudes like Common, and he came out the gate a tad bit harder as well. thats neither here nor there. you always act like it hurts your brain to think out the box a lil bit. just a lil bit. everything isnt A or B. most things arent actually. outkast rapping about pimpin ON THE SLY means nothing. stop trying to act like they were too short.

and lol @ the bolded. if you think im trying to paint a picture, then i dont know what to tell you.
you dudes want outkast to be seen in a different light so badly.
outkast doesnt connect with people who dont listen to hip-hop now???

Breh, the awards show you are pointing to is an awards show that was held some 20 years after Arrested Development was even relevant. A show that has never even honored Kast.

Kast has kept the pimp, player content on their albums albeit a bit more toned down. In comparison to Arrested Development, OutKast was indeed Too Short. Arrested Development didn't even need a parental advisory sticker. I remember Arrested Development. I liked 2/3 of the their singles.

The only people pushing for Kast to be seen in a different light is you.

In regard to connecting with people who don't listen to Hip Hop, that's neither here or there. Why? Any Hip Hop artist that has experienced crossover success has fans that don't listen to Hip Hop or only listen to a handful of Hip Hop artists. That's not an indictment on the music as much as it is the preference of the listener.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Breh, the awards show you are pointing to is an awards show that was held some 20 years after Arrested Development was even relevant. A show that has never even honored Kast.

Kast has kept the pimp, player content on their albums albeit a bit more toned down. In comparison to Arrested Development, OutKast was indeed Too Short. Arrested Development didn't even need a parental advisory sticker. I remember Arrested Development. I liked 2/3 of the their singles.

The only people pushing for Kast to be seen in a different light is you.

In regard to connecting with people who don't listen to Hip Hop, that's neither here or there. Why? Any Hip Hop artist that has experienced crossover success has fans that don't listen to Hip Hop or only listen to a handful of Hip Hop artists. That's not an indictment on the music as much as it is the preference of the listener.

you legitimately just dont get IT.

i aint even gonna hold you no more bro. you got it.

 

[JustCKing]

you legitimately just dont get IT.

i aint even gonna hold you no more bro. you got it.

You are saying that someone who was a fan of group that didn't use profanity and was adamantly against anything remotely gangsta, became fans of a group that used profanity, talked about smoking weed, selling drugs, being players and pimps. It is going from one extreme to another. So yes, Kast was Too Short in comparison to Arrested Development.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

You are saying that someone who was a fan of group that didn't use profanity and was adamantly against anything remotely gangsta, became fans of a group that used profanity, talked about smoking weed, selling drugs, being players and pimps. It is going from one extreme to another. So yes, Kast was Too Short in comparison to Arrested Development.

AGAIN, YOU ALWAYS FAIL TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. REGARDLESS OF THE THREAD OR TOPIC.

youre too caught up in content - and outkast's content was very vague & subliminal. your average casual rap fan never viewed them as a weed-smoking, drug dealing pimp playa group. especially once they really started taking off.

you also seem to be of the mindset that arrested development fans were all anti-gangsta rap, which is pretty funny. but thats neither here nor there right now.

youre completely ignoring the stylistc comparisons, the vibes, as well as the presentation.
not to mention they were laface's rap group for pete's sake!!!!!!!!!!!
and on top of that, LA Reid is on-record saying that arrested development is the reason he signed outkast. STR8 FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.
like i said, you and others on this board want outkast to be seen in a certain light because theyre your favorites, and you prolly view groups like arrested development, pm dawn & them in a bad light.

outkast is way more likely to get bumped in a mix with those groups, as opposed to too short. LOL.
even the earliest outkast stuff, you can play back-n-forth with arrested development and keep the same vibe.