Outkast is better than Mobb Deep - Joe Budden

[boogers]

He made Pump It Up
And we are supposed to give a fukk about his opinion for some reason

PUMP PUMP PUMP IT UP

 

[BK The Great]

Throw Your Guns and Stomp were huge for Onyx, METHOD Man, Protect Ya Neck and CREAM were all huge before Shook Ones Part 2.

Yea you’re probably right. Mobb came after.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I never claimed to be unbiased. Lol.

I’m just comparing them album for album. Folks love to say Kast is better but if you compare them album for album, Mobb got it easy.

It’s funny that no one in this thread aside from me is actually comparing their albums. Everyone mentioning who had the bigger singles and we all know that is Outkast, but you can’t tell me Southerplayalistic is better than The Infamous, or ATLiens is better than HOE, or Speakerboxx/The Love Below is better than HNIC. Bigger? Yeah. Better, hell nah

Southerplayalistic > Juvenile Hell
The Infamous > Atliens
Aquemini > HOE
Stankonia > Murda Musik
Speakerboxx/Love Below > Infamy
Amerika's Nightmare > Idlewild Soundtrack


But then you can Blood Money
Mobb Misses mixtapes
P and Hav-s solo shyt
Compared to:
Big Boi's Sir Luscious Left-footed and Vicious Lies albums and his album with Sleepy Brown.

I guess you can add the Dungeon Family album they appeared on to.

Mobb more prolific but they have more meh to iffy product out there with their name on it than Outkast. Only miss IMO is the Idelwild Sdtrk.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I don't get this Mobb birthed shyt. They really didn't. Onyx was out before them and were grimey, Wu Tang came out like at the same time, so did Black Moon and blee immediately. They were just in the mix when they first dropped. Their debut Juvenile Hell which I played at the time and liked when many were frontin' went wood. They didn't make any noise until their second album like 2 years later.

The Mobb was the first group on the east coast gangsta rap shyt. There was a difference between the Mobb and those other groups. Onyx was so over the top that we knew it was a gimmick. The Wu was grimey af but you go back to their debut and they didn’t have the level of violence the Mobb had. Same for Black Moon. Nobody on the east coast was doing tough guy shyt the way the Mobb was

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

That song UGK made about Shook Ones was fire
That was dope when Mobb put 8Ball on Murda Muzik and put Memphis on the map

8 Ball and MJG were already big prior to 1999 hahaha. boy stop this foolishness. They were on Rap City daily NATIONALLY in 1995. And Three Six Mafia were known prior to that song. Mobb Deep did not put Memphis on the map

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Duo = 2 people rapping. So I don’t count Gangstarr.
Yes. Mobb > EPMD
EPMD > Kast

well by that definition, this means Run DMC, Tribe Called quest, and De la soul are duos. And Mobb Deep isn't better than any of those either. See how that works?

 

[Chip Skylark]

The Mobb was the first group on the east coast gangsta rap shyt. There was a difference between the Mobb and those other groups. Onyx was so over the top that we knew it was a gimmick. The Wu was grimey af but you go back to their debut and they didn’t have the level of violence the Mobb had. Same for Black Moon. Nobody on the east coast was doing tough guy shyt the way the Mobb was

Naw I think MOP was and was just as violent their debut was just as hard they just didn’t have a huge hit on it. While Mobb was releasing juvenile hell MOP was on their hard shyt

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Me and my boys actually have this debate irl
becuz a couple of us are bigger Mobb fans and a couple are bigger Kast fans


Both are among my favorite groups. But I’ll take the Mobb over Kast becuz I always found myself listening to their music more. From 95-early 2000s they were the go to when it came time to ride out and hit the streets with the crew. Looking back I always played Kast when I was alone or with a girl

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

The Mobb was the first group on the east coast gangsta rap shyt. There was a difference between the Mobb and those other groups. Onyx was so over the top that we knew it was a gimmick. The Wu was grimey af but you go back to their debut and they didn’t have the level of violence the Mobb had. Same for Black Moon. Nobody on the east coast was doing tough guy shyt the way the Mobb was

What were Tim Dog and Schooly D

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Naw I think MOP was and was just as violent their debut was just as hard they just didn’t have a huge hit on it. While Mobb was releasing juvenile hell they was on it

Damn you right. I forgot all about MOP. Criminally underrated. Lil Fame especially was always slept on as a lyricist

 

[Chip Skylark]

Damn you right. I forgot all about MOP. Criminally underrated. Lil Fame especially was always slept on as a lyricist

All facts super slept on

 

[BmoreGorilla]

What were Tim Dog and Schooly D

Footnotes

 

[Chip Skylark]

What were Tim Dog and Schooly D

Tim dog is the dude that dissed the west coast for gangbanging right? Or was it NWA? Idk but that diss is one of the funniest first tracks of all time lol

 

[up in here]

Southerplayalistic > Juvenile Hell
The Infamous > Atliens
Aquemini > HOE
Stankonia > Murda Musik
Speakerboxx/Love Below > Infamy
Amerika's Nightmare > Idlewild Soundtrack


But then you can Blood Money
Mobb Misses mixtapes
P and Hav-s solo shyt
Compared to:
Big Boi's Sir Luscious Left-footed and Vicious Lies albums and his album with Sleepy Brown.

I guess you can add the Dungeon Family album they appeared on to.

Mobb more prolific but they have more meh to iffy product out there with their name on it than Outkast. Only miss IMO is the Idelwild Sdtrk.

I respect that you actually put a list up. It’s hard to compare because their discographies don’t line up exactly. Outkast really only got 4 main group albums, one double disc that was really two solo albums and a soundtrack. Mobb got a lot more material as a group.

I didn’t include Juvenile Hell but yeah fair enough on that one. But you buggin on some of these other ones. Aquemini over HOE? I’d say those are about equal. Stankonia over Murda Muzik? Nah.

And Speakerboxx/TLB is two average solos tied together as a double disc and neither one is as good as HNIC.

But yeah if we add Juvenile Hell and Dungeon Family joints to even it up:

Southerplayalistic > Juvenile Hell
The Infamous > ATLiens
HOE = Aquemini
Murda Muzik > Stankonia
Infamy > Dungeon Family album
Amerikas Nightmare > Speakerboxx/TLB
Blood Money > Idlewild

If we including solo material, Prodigy’s solo work blows everything out. But even if we not including solo’s, I still give it to Mobb.

Outkast has sales and singles though, no doubt.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Footnotes

they may be, but pre-date mobb deep. Mobb Deep were not the first NY gangsta rappers.