And this is what people like you fail to grasp due to ignorance. Only disturbed people would condone what Bin Laden did. However America likes to pretend that other societies woke up one day and decided to hate it. No reason just our “freedoms” and other nonsense. It gives no consideration to the idea that actions often have repercussions. It is therefore essential to assess whether a country’s actions may cause negative repercussions. The US has a long history of meddling in the Middle East resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths. When that happens enemies will be created. And when you mix desperation hatred and religious fervor that is a recipe for creating those that will carry out some heinous shyt. Check out what happened during some slave rebellions. That’s human nature whether we like it or not. It would therefore behoove a country to try to create as few of these types of people as possible. Unless of course a nation takes the stance of we do what we want to do because we have the power to do so. The wise, who are more concerned with equal Justice doesn’t want the deaths of innocents whoever that may be. So they will try to assess what creates terrorists and whatever contribution their nation may have to that and attempt to minimize it as much as possible. The unwise will pretend that any consideration of these things is condoning terrorism and make no effort to course correct.These bozos talking themselves into Bin fukking Laden being an ally
Osama Bin Laden’s “Letter to America” goes viral 21 years later then gets deleted by The Guardian
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Why do y’all call Europe the west when it’s not?
And why y’all never talk about China’s involvement in Africa and the Middle East?
Absolut
Legal Bookie
We are about a week away from “hitler made some good points” from these clowns
Nelson Mandela was classified as a terrorist until 2008.
^^^^^^^^
So you’re the latter. Incapable of assessment of your countries flaws and only capable of spouting cliches such as “You’re either with us or them”, “Next you’ll be justifying Nazis!!” (A ridiculous comparison as the Nazis were the nation state oppressing a minority population”) and other pablum. A shame but not unexpected given the arrogance of so many Americans.
Low End Derrick
Veteran
Inb4 “was 9/11 that bad brehs?”
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
West as in NATO. West as on colonialism.. west as in western democracy. And this country is the leader.
As for China, they are basically loan sharks. They hold more loan debt with other counties than anyone else in the world. They build relationships and allies through economic investment. They are about business. While the United States does it thru aid, weapons sales, and military.
China doesn’t try to force its values on other countries. This country on the other hand are hypocrites. The government routinely demonizes China, but do business with them all the time.
Didn’t expect this day to actually come today.
That “age of Aquarius” shyt might be real yall
America dumbed down this nation for a long time and some truth is coming to light.
Man, I remember some of the kids on my campus talking about Palestine and going hard and some of our administrators were telling them to let it go, etc. So many of us weren’t really paying attention. I didn’t understand the conflict in the region until I graduated.
I’m getting a little excited, brehs…people are going to start asking some real questions…..
That “age of Aquarius” shyt might be real yall
America dumbed down this nation for a long time and some truth is coming to light.
Man, I remember some of the kids on my campus talking about Palestine and going hard and some of our administrators were telling them to let it go, etc. So many of us weren’t really paying attention. I didn’t understand the conflict in the region until I graduated.
I’m getting a little excited, brehs…people are going to start asking some real questions…..
Absolut
Legal Bookie
I have been plenty critical of the past. I don’t need to hand it to osama bin laden though
he wrote another letter..
original : https://web.archive.org/web/20230920132832/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
foreignpolicy.com
Osama bin Laden wanted to speak directly to the American people.
An undated letter promising endless war is one of hundreds of documents collected in the May 2, 2011 raid on his compound in Pakistan that was released Wednesday. The full text is below.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
From Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin to the American people,
I speak to you about the subject of the ongoing war between you
and us. Even though the consensus of your wise thinkers and
others is that your time (TN: of defeat) will come, compassion
for the women and children who are being unjustly killed,
wounded, and displaced in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan
motivates me to speak to you.
First of all, I would like to say that your war with us is the
longest war in your history and the most expensive for you
financially. As for us, we see it as being only halfway
finished. If you were to ask your wise thinkers, they would tell
you that there is no way to win it because the indications are
against it. How will you win a war whose leaders are pessimistic
and whose soldiers are committing suicide? If fear enters the
hearts of men, winning the war becomes impossible. How will you
win a war whose cost is like a hurricane blowing violently at
your economy and weakening your dollar?
The Bush administration got you into these wars on the premise
that they were vital to your security. He promised that it would
be a quick war, won within six days or six weeks; however, six
years have passed, and they are still promising you victory and
not achieving it. Then Obama came and delayed the withdrawal
that he had promised you by 16 more months. He promised you
victory in Afghanistan and set a date for withdrawal from there.
Six months later, Petraeus came to you once again with the
number six, requesting that the withdrawal be delayed six months
beyond the date that had been set. All the while you continue to
bleed in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wading into a war with no
end in sight on the horizon and which has no connection to your
security, which was confirmed by the operation of ‘Umar al-Faruq
(Var.: Umar Farouk), which was not launched from the battlefield
and could have been launched from any place in the world.
As for us, jihad against the tyrants and the aggressors is a
form of great worship in our religion. It is more precious to us
than our fathers and sons. Thus, our jihad against you is
worship, and your killing us is a testimony. Thanks to God, Almighty, we
have been waging jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and
then against you. Not a single one of our men has committed
suicide, whereas every 30 days 30 of your men commit suicide.
Continue the war if you will.
(TN: Two lines of poetry that say the Mujahidin will not stop
fighting until the United States leaves their land.)
Peace be upon those who follow right guidance.
We are defending our right. Jihad against the aggressors is a
form of great worship in our religion, and killing us means a
high status with our Lord. Thanks to God, we have been waging
jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and then against you.
Not a single one of our men has committed suicide, whereas every
30 days 30 of your men commit suicide. Continue the war if you
will. Justice is the strongest army, and security is the best
way of life, but it slipped out of your grasp the day you made
the Jews victorious in occupying our land and killing our
brothers in Palestine. The path to security is for you to lift
your oppression from us.
original : https://web.archive.org/web/20230920132832/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
Here's Osama Bin Laden's Letter to the American People
Osama bin Laden promised endless war in a newly declassified letter to the American people.
foreignpolicy.com
Osama bin Laden wanted to speak directly to the American people.
An undated letter promising endless war is one of hundreds of documents collected in the May 2, 2011 raid on his compound in Pakistan that was released Wednesday. The full text is below.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
From Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin to the American people,
I speak to you about the subject of the ongoing war between you
and us. Even though the consensus of your wise thinkers and
others is that your time (TN: of defeat) will come, compassion
for the women and children who are being unjustly killed,
wounded, and displaced in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan
motivates me to speak to you.
First of all, I would like to say that your war with us is the
longest war in your history and the most expensive for you
financially. As for us, we see it as being only halfway
finished. If you were to ask your wise thinkers, they would tell
you that there is no way to win it because the indications are
against it. How will you win a war whose leaders are pessimistic
and whose soldiers are committing suicide? If fear enters the
hearts of men, winning the war becomes impossible. How will you
win a war whose cost is like a hurricane blowing violently at
your economy and weakening your dollar?
The Bush administration got you into these wars on the premise
that they were vital to your security. He promised that it would
be a quick war, won within six days or six weeks; however, six
years have passed, and they are still promising you victory and
not achieving it. Then Obama came and delayed the withdrawal
that he had promised you by 16 more months. He promised you
victory in Afghanistan and set a date for withdrawal from there.
Six months later, Petraeus came to you once again with the
number six, requesting that the withdrawal be delayed six months
beyond the date that had been set. All the while you continue to
bleed in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wading into a war with no
end in sight on the horizon and which has no connection to your
security, which was confirmed by the operation of ‘Umar al-Faruq
(Var.: Umar Farouk), which was not launched from the battlefield
and could have been launched from any place in the world.
As for us, jihad against the tyrants and the aggressors is a
form of great worship in our religion. It is more precious to us
than our fathers and sons. Thus, our jihad against you is
worship, and your killing us is a testimony. Thanks to God, Almighty, we
have been waging jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and
then against you. Not a single one of our men has committed
suicide, whereas every 30 days 30 of your men commit suicide.
Continue the war if you will.
(TN: Two lines of poetry that say the Mujahidin will not stop
fighting until the United States leaves their land.)
Peace be upon those who follow right guidance.
We are defending our right. Jihad against the aggressors is a
form of great worship in our religion, and killing us means a
high status with our Lord. Thanks to God, we have been waging
jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and then against you.
Not a single one of our men has committed suicide, whereas every
30 days 30 of your men commit suicide. Continue the war if you
will. Justice is the strongest army, and security is the best
way of life, but it slipped out of your grasp the day you made
the Jews victorious in occupying our land and killing our
brothers in Palestine. The path to security is for you to lift
your oppression from us.
muthafukks have short attention spans here...people forget too easily...
Westbama Heartthrob
Irregular Zero
Just read the letter
Aint all this info been known
What rock these mfs been living under
Aint all this info been known
What rock these mfs been living under
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Letter is almost 100% facts yet it's still fukk Bin Laden and Bush til I die. They are both pieces of shyt. Both have tremendous innocent blood on their hands. Bin Laden can't claim moral highground any more than America can. The lord needeth to strike them both and let Africa rule the next millineum