Opinion: The Black Los Angeles I grew up with is slipping away

[Apollo Creed]

Probably many state jobs

Thats not sustainable for miggas to just up and move to

 

[JadeB]

In theory yes, and there are supercommuters who go from Sac to The Bay but like homie above said, it's not optimal. You'd rather live closer to where you work unless you only have to be in office a week out the month (my oldest kids' mom back east, lives in Raleigh and works in Durham. She has a set-up like this, works from home 3 weeks out yhe month)...

I'm a renter, you can still get rentals in Sac at $1500 and below, that's a steal in not just California but many other parts if the country. The wages need to increase but on the whole I don't find Sac to be all that expensive...

If I'm coming from Los Angeles, it's still in California, and to many Californians that matters...

The Black California diaspora stretches across the entire nation, of course with many Black Californians choosing to go back south, or next door to Nevada or Arizona. Most Black Californians are ancestrally tied to the South Central states (west of the Mississippi River: Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma), but I've met us everywhere, there's plenty of us in Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas. Some of my own Angeleno family returned to Arkansas in the early 10s...

But I live in the South, and like many other Californians, if all things were equal, I'd choose California. Some Californians want an entire change of scenery, but there are those of us who'd rather remain close to the culture and weather and people we grew up with...

Also, for California, Sacramento is cheap (getting more expensive, but cheaper than the coast). Black America is still the most disenfranchised group in the US, the wages and ability to acquire assets lags behind everyone else. So affordability matters to us way more than anyone else, and Sacramento is one of the few bastions of affordability...

Lastly, Sac is in its "black golden era", since the mid-10s. There's always been black people in Sac, my mom's family has been here since '72 and my dad's paternal side has been here since before then, maybe 10 years earlier. But historically the migration of black folk to California concentrated heavily on the coastal cities; Sacramento has historically been a very white city...

Sac has never had the number of black businesses and black-themed cultural events that it has now, and its beautiful watching it develop. Its the complete opposite of the coastal cities who were at their peaks of black culture in eras past, and I think it's exciting to live somewhere like this. It's like being black in SF in the 40s thru 60s, or black in Oakland in the 60s thru 80s...

I'd much rather live in Sac than anywhere in Nevada or AZ, and its a more attractive place than most of the rest of the country too...

Because people act like this isn't happening elsewhere. And its happening worse almost everywhere else, the black decline in LA is near bottoming out. The Bay cities and SD are all losing black people more rapidly--->and the northern cities across the East Coast and Midwest are almost all losing black citizens, and almost all losing them faster than LA is...

The problem was portraying the decline of black population as an LA-centered issue on a site that allegedly cares about Black Community in general. New York, Chicago, and many other cities are in far worse shape currently re: declining black community...

Well, Sac has been the capital since 1854 and before that was the first incorporated city in Cali. You could say this about anywhere, Hollywood didn't take off until the 1910s, what would LA be without it? LA had gained over a million residents in less than 3 decades, had 102,000 in 1900 and over 1.2 million in 1930, on the back of Hollywood's explosion...

Would LA be Riverside or Dino without Hollywood? We could do this with anywhere...

Sac looking nicer to move to everyday

 

[Ol’Otis]

Mexicans bought us out.

Mexicans don’t own shyt
They’re the largest minority renters

 

[IIVI]

It ain't just Black folks. All types of smart people are moving away because it's too expensive.

San Diego is the biggest majority white city in Cali right now because so many have migrated from Orange County/LA to still keep the Cali vibe while being significantly cheaper.

I've mentioned that the wife and I got a place in each city and I far prefer the location we have in SD because there's so much more room and less hassle.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/are-californians-still-taking-over-texas-new-census-data-reveals-where-people-are-moving-most/

“We are losing younger folks, and I think we will see people continuing to migrate where housing costs are lower,” Manuel Pastor, a professor of sociology and American Studies & Ethnicity at the University of Southern California, said in an interview with the Associated Press. “There are good jobs in California, but housing is incredibly expensive. It hurts young families, and it hurts immigrant families.”

It sounds crazy, but young people are actually leaving the city. Although that's not actually too surprising when you think about their generation's financial struggles and TikToks. A lot of big cities are actually on their way to looking more like Detroit: straight up old, run down and cold. The older people may have got their's and are putting up challenges to take their spot, so younger people are going to move away so that they can get their's and that vacuum is making the city less vibrant. So why would a smart person stick around? Again, when Engineers are having a difficulty making a living somewhere, then that tells you something.

Remember this thread right here?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/damn-which-floor-is-the-ground-floor-in-chongqing-china.1006578/post-51101145

This city is 90% cheaper to live in than NYC, which is why it's so young and vibrant:



Imagine if you got to keep half your paycheck while living in a bustling, youthful and modern city like that.
Instead our buildings look they peaked in the 70's and we're paying premium prices to live in old school.

 

[Alvin]

Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the only reason black people could live in such prime real estate in a warm climate, while remaining in the city of LosAngelas due to redlining?

Its been ages since i read up on the topic of redlining in California, but from what i recall, white banks, white city planners, and white homeowners thought it was beneath them to live in the areas black people currently live in and they activiely placed barriers to keep them from spreading into other areas.

It seems to me that in the absense redlining, whitepeople and hispanics would have boxed out all the land black people currently have in LA , half a century ago. It was never really a choice for black people to live where they currently do in that state, and the powers that be seem to be moving them out of what little land black people in California currently occupy.

yep at first blacks could only live "south of central avenue aka south central" compton used to be an all white suburb (george bush senior lived there) Blacks originally lived in the watts housing projects and east side, then started to migrate to the west side and inglewood and compton.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Hate to see it

We gotta stop pulling out and start outfukkin these Mexicans. It's the only way.

Do you see how those Mexicans live?

 

[IIVI]

Another thing to consider as well is an LGBTQ couple doesn't have to worry about raising kids so they have what, an additional $300-$500k to spend? They'll drop that on a really small house to live in LA with zero hesitation.

LA being one of their target destinations has very well been a factor in prices going up for everyone else because they have more flexible money than most families who have 1 or 2 kids. Some family with a kid or two wouldn't want to buy a smaller expensive house to raise the youngsters, but not a problem for a couple with no kids who wants to clout chase. I know of two families near me who moved away for that reason.

 

[Alvin]

1970 was the peak for black Los Angeles, in terms of population



The year 1980 recorded the highest per capita homicide rate in Los Angeles, higher than any time recorded in New York or Chicagos history, that started the exodus, along with Latinos moving in looking for a better life than their home countries

and living 5 to a 2 bed room house with rent going for 3500+ once they become americanized they move away too unless they got money. It's just they are coming in droves across the border.

 

[Alvin]

If the property area is so expensive how is it getting over run by mexicans and other immigrants? I doubt they are making more then educated teachers and nurses who once lived in the area

I said this already, they are living 6 plus to a 2 bedroom house renting for 4500. They pool they money

 

[the elastic]

Do you see how those Mexicans live?

Nah. You got tape?

 

[get these nets]

so I'm from LA and these mexicans are more than likely getting bread from the cartel bc aint no way they getting it out the mud. I know a lot of ish......black folks who use to work at certain banks use to hip me to info like one popular laundry chain ran by them was a big money laundering operation. so yea they can afford it bc they are being bankrolled by them cartels. also the mexican mafia and the skin head white boys & the sheriffs also clicked up to run blacks out of CA ........along w other funny ish that they do......I know so much info on this matter bro, they cold...

How many families per block could cartels be supporting like this? Too many Mexicans in these areas for that to make sense.

 

[TheMailMan]

I said this already, they are living 6 plus to a 2 bedroom house renting for 4500. They pool they money

I kinda figured that. See some of that in southwest Detroit as well but not on scale as Cali. We gotta alot of grown people where I work that car pool with they moms ,hell I seen a minivan of 8 bengalis pull up lol ... It just seems like a lot of the younger Cali guys wanna wait to inherit a house and then just cash out and not lay down roots

 

[J.E.T.S]

If I'm coming from Los Angeles, it's still in California, and to many Californians that matters...

The Black California diaspora stretches across the entire nation, of course with many Black Californians choosing to go back south, or next door to Nevada or Arizona. Most Black Californians are ancestrally tied to the South Central states (west of the Mississippi River: Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma), but I've met us everywhere, there's plenty of us in Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas. Some of my own Angeleno family returned to Arkansas in the early 10s...

But I live in the South, and like many other Californians, if all things were equal, I'd choose California. Some Californians want an entire change of scenery, but there are those of us who'd rather remain close to the culture and weather and people we grew up with...

Also, for California, Sacramento is cheap (getting more expensive, but cheaper than the coast). Black America is still the most disenfranchised group in the US, the wages and ability to acquire assets lags behind everyone else. So affordability matters to us way more than anyone else, and Sacramento is one of the few bastions of affordability...

Lastly, Sac is in its "black golden era", since the mid-10s. There's always been black people in Sac, my mom's family has been here since '72 and my dad's paternal side has been here since before then, maybe 10 years earlier. But historically the migration of black folk to California concentrated heavily on the coastal cities; Sacramento has historically been a very white city...

Sac has never had the number of black businesses and black-themed cultural events that it has now, and its beautiful watching it develop. Its the complete opposite of the coastal cities who were at their peaks of black culture in eras past, and I think it's exciting to live somewhere like this. It's like being black in SF in the 40s thru 60s, or black in Oakland in the 60s thru 80s...

I'd much rather live in Sac than anywhere in Nevada or AZ, and its a more attractive place than most of the rest of the country too...

Because people act like this isn't happening elsewhere. And its happening worse almost everywhere else, the black decline in LA is near bottoming out. The Bay cities and SD are all losing black people more rapidly--->and the northern cities across the East Coast and Midwest are almost all losing black citizens, and almost all losing them faster than LA is...

The problem was portraying the decline of black population as an LA-centered issue on a site that allegedly cares about Black Community in general. New York, Chicago, and many other cities are in far worse shape currently re: declining black community...

Well, Sac has been the capital since 1854 and before that was the first incorporated city in Cali. You could say this about anywhere, Hollywood didn't take off until the 1910s, what would LA be without it? LA had gained over a million residents in less than 3 decades, had 102,000 in 1900 and over 1.2 million in 1930, on the back of Hollywood's explosion...

Would LA be Riverside or Dino without Hollywood? We could do this with anywhere...

I’d definitely choose Sac over Nevada or Arizona . I don’t see how black folks do it .

 

[Alvin]

I kinda figured that. See some of that in southwest Detroit as well but not on scale as Cali. We gotta alot of grown people where I work that car pool with they moms ,hell I seen a minivan of 8 bengalis pull up lol ... It just seems like a lot of the younger Cali guys wanna wait to inherit a house and then just cash out and not lay down roots

can't blame them, your dollar goes further elsewhere, reason why black people were moving to the valley in the 90s. Same with moving from the east side to the west side, east side to compton, compton to west L.A.

 

[Alvin]

The city is expensive now. My grandmother bought our family home in the 80’s for under 60K. Straight South Central LA. The house is worth 600k. 3/2 1200SF. Who can afford that?

We got pushed out if we were silly enough to sell. I haven’t been to the house since 2017 but I think Asians and Mexicans bought us out.

Edit: Us as in South LA black population.

*white folk/some asians