Opinion: The Black Los Angeles I grew up with is slipping away

Gritsngravy

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I have several issues with this idea that we should self-segregate to the South...
I think that would be the wrong move, do people ignore the conditions of these states

Yea it sounds cool to take over Mississippi or Alabama but crackers can barley live there so what do people expect black folks to do in them states

And if you not educated what jobs u going to get living in the south
 

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I think that would be the wrong move, do people ignore the conditions of these states

Yea it sounds cool to take over Mississippi or Alabama but crackers can barley live there so what do people expect black folks to do in them states

And if you not educated what jobs u going to get living in the south
The only way moving back south makes any sense is if black engineers moved down there to take over the aerospace industry, Boeing nasa Lockheed etc.
 

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so I'm from LA and these mexicans are more than likely getting bread from the cartel bc aint no way they getting it out the mud. I know a lot of ish......black folks who use to work at certain banks use to hip me to info like one popular laundry chain ran by them was a big money laundering operation. so yea they can afford it bc they are being bankrolled by them cartels. also the mexican mafia and the skin head white boys & the sheriffs also clicked up to run blacks out of CA ........along w other funny ish that they do......I know so much info on this matter bro, they cold...

East L.A. Gang Member Who Led Firebombing of African-American Residences Sentenced to 16 Years in Federal Prison

Breh, it's not the Cartels..... it's the fact that they're taking low paying jobs+ government assistance.... Not to mention they've been in California longer than blacks have been.

people for some reason conflate the instances of Big Hazard and Florencia doing things with the declining black population.. or how ECC got "ran" out of Aliso Village..but they never bring up with BPS smashed 18th street or all the L's South Los took trying to be tough.

white folks didn't conspire to run blacks out of CA, they decided they were just going to move to Orange County,Ventura and Simi Valley


 

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Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the only reason black people could live in such prime real estate in a warm climate, while remaining in the city of LosAngelas due to redlining?

Its been ages since i read up on the topic of redlining in California, but from what i recall, white banks, white city planners, and white homeowners thought it was beneath them to live in the areas black people currently live in and they activiely placed barriers to keep them from spreading into other areas.

It seems to me that in the absense redlining, whitepeople and hispanics would have boxed out all the land black people currently have in LA , half a century ago. It was never really a choice for black people to live where they currently do in that state, and the powers that be seem to be moving them out of what little land black people in California currently occupy.
Redlining for white people included keeping Hispanics out as well and sticking them in Black neighborhoods. Then the racist hispanics fought /killed Black Americans in Black neighborhoods and were also similar to the whites by only allowing Hispanics in as well

Hispanics do this with jobs too, will only hire other Hispanics and use “Spanish speaking preferred “ to legally pick only Hispanics. That needs to be illegal. This is America and legal citizens are supposed to know English, we shouldn’t have to know Spanish to be hired in America just like they don’t have to know English to be hired in their home country.

People keep claiming it’s only for the jobs that Americans don’t want but I’ve seen majority of the office/receptionist and even hr type jobs say Spanish speaking only or preferred and those type of jobs are necessary for Americans who don’t have degrees, for those with degrees who are underemployed and in between jobs, for the retired, for small businesses owners who need a side gig etc. it’s completely unfair and will only get worse as more illegals come from South America.

This reminds me of the black girl from Texas or Florida who was crying about not being able to get a job due to racism and not being able to speak Spanish. If the USA keeps it up, that will be all major cities. Even if you learn Spanish, Asians and Hispanics are notorious for only hiring their own. White people are less publicly racist bc even if they are racist, many try not to appear racist due to their history. Hispanics and Asians don’t care about being viewed as racist. They will hide behind the person of color label despite being white adjacent and despite Hispanics having a whole enslaved population as well. I rather deal with the racist I’m most familiar with bc I know how to work them.
 

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The city is expensive now. My grandmother bought our family home in the 80’s for under 60K. Straight South Central LA. The house is worth 600k. 3/2 1200SF. Who can afford that?
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We got pushed out if we were silly enough to sell. I haven’t been to the house since 2017 but I think Asians and Mexicans bought us out.
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Edit: Us as in South LA black population.
Naw this is false too
Private investors and corporations own those homes

There are 243,994 housing units in South L.A., and the median year in which these properties were built is 1953. Of the 230,559 occupied housing units in South L.A., 35.51% are owner-occupied, while 64.49% have renters living in them.


Black people own more homes than Latinos
 

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I think that would be the wrong move, do people ignore the conditions of these states

Yea it sounds cool to take over Mississippi or Alabama but crackers can barley leave there so what do people expect black folks to do in them states

And if you not educated what jobs u going to get living in the south
Not just that, bit some of these southerners and non-southerners who advocate for this shyt act as if this shyt is sunshine and rainbows in the South. I'm bout to go on a rant here 🤣...

There are numerous places across the South with plurality to majority black populations, where we are lacking political power all the same, where we still live under the same disenfranchisement that we have in areas we are smaller proportions of the population. nikkas think repopulating the South is the move and yet the South is where the largest black crime rates are, where some of the highest black poverty rates are, where some of the strongest barriers to equal education opportunities are. Cities like Memphis and New Orleans and Baltimore exist, 55%+ black, with a shyt ton of corruption and social issues that effect black people...

But let's self-segregate where we already have high numbers, let's get those numbers higher! 🤣 Mississippi is the Blackest state in the Union and yet we are doing the worst in the state we have the largest share of the population...

Not to mention, do nikkas really think this shyt thru, what do they think the ramifications of self-segregating to 8-12 states will be on future generations of black people? Do you know how many non-blacks, not just whites, would absolutely LOVE for "coloreds only" areas again? The advocates for this shyt are advocating for turning the rest of the US into sundown towns for us, and don't even know it---->and also aren't realizing that any city or state we have numbers in is going to be controlled by white interests regardless...

Atlanta is tge popular beacon of Black America and yet anyone who has actually spent time in Atlanta know most of us there are impoverished or barely making it, living amongst violence, with virtual Klan members controlling the zoning and real estate and money and jurisdictions of tge region anyway...

But fukk it, let's all leave the rest of the US and go South...

What I will say is that in the present and recent past, the South has cheaper land, cheaper cost of living, more job access and job diversity, and more attractive weather, than most of the rest of the country, and all of these things matter to black people---->and they should. When you add the fact that, the South is our ancestral home of most of us, there is a different community feel in many southern areas than you get in New York and Los Angeles and Chicago and the like, those cities obviously have community too.....but there's a different emotional pull in much of the South if you're black...

So I'm not saying black people shouldn't move to the South if it's the best move for them. But what I've actually found is while just as many transplants enjoy the South, just as many of them, would trade their new home for their old one, if the cost of living at minimum was feasible. For others, if crime wasn't outta control. And so on. Lotta transplants love the South. Others just tolerate it...

I love Virginia and North Carolina. Not a fan of pretty much anywhere else in the South, but because I love those two, I get why someone would love another southern state...

But what I am saying is this colonized country wasn't made for us or with us in mind. Racism isnt absent in the South. Life is hard. But we did help make all of these non-southern places what they are today, and I'm a huge supporter of standing our ground and tooling up to maintain our presence in these places...

Keep these homes and neighborhoods in black hands. Invest into our black communities on a civic level. Re/educate our youth on standing up for Black rights in these large cities that are pushing us away...

Running away and self-segregating is tge worst option on the board, literally. That grass for sure ain't always greener. If it's the right move, make it happen, but not just because "immigrants and illegals taking over; high cost of living; anti-black policies and gentrification"...

Mf's be surprised when they hit the South and see the exact same shyt happening from wherever they left, it's just your dollar stretches further. And for some, that's all that matters. For me, the entirety of my comfortability goes beyond cost of living...
 

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Breh, it's not the Cartels..... it's the fact that they're taking low paying jobs+ government assistance.... Not to mention they've been in California longer than blacks have been.

people for some reason conflate the instances of Big Hazard and Florencia doing things with the declining black population.. or how ECC got "ran" out of Aliso Village..but they never bring up with BPS smashed 18th street or all the L's South Los took trying to be tough.

white folks didn't conspire to run blacks out of CA, they decided they were just going to move to Orange County,Ventura and Simi Valley
south Los def put a hurting on 112 Hoover but that's because that set was small and was beefing with NHC and DLGB. The city of L.A ran 1st ECC out of Aliso Village when they converted it into mixed use housing (those latino gangs couldn't do shyt) F13 and ECC were doing tick for tack and despite being huge in firestone and huntington park came to a peace treaty (and were nervous when Six Pack wanted to keep the beef on :russ:) I agree on everything you said though
 

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This dude was really buying duplexes in LA for 5500 in the 70's and here we are. Government should have never allowed housing to be an investment :francis:
 

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Ima keep it real, it does sound appealing to live near or on a beach somewhere in the gulf or the Carolinas’ or even south Florida but I would need a raw ass job to make that move, and compared to other places Seattle, Boston, New York, San Diego, the bay, dc, and chi seems like better cities with better job prospects

Like do I really want to move somewhere where they giving out real time for weed still
 
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