This is a little disingenuous don't you think?
Wasn't this payback for these a$$holes crucifying enslaved children?
Wasn't this payback for these a$$holes killing her baby and best friend?
This is a little disingenuous don't you think?
Wasn't this payback for these a$$holes crucifying enslaved children?
Just so we're on the same page when defining evil...
Was Robb "evil" for doing this?
So your definition of evil is any feudal system ruler that executes someone for crimes.Yup!
The civilians didn't thoughWasn't this payback for these a$$holes killing her baby and best friend?
So your definition of evil is any feudal system ruler that executes someone for crimes.
The civilians didn't though
And they surrendered, but instead of going for Cersei she tears up babies, women and innocent
men? Why isn't she punishing the one responsible for her anger?
Do you have an example of her taking out her frustrations with violence against the innocent?
Agreed. I would've felt for Missandei's death a lot more had they gave it more time too. Instead it felt like a "Here ya go!" shock value moment. Complete opposite from Ned's beheading.Sansa telling Tyrion, Rhaegals death, Missandeis capture/death, Tyrion telling Varys, and Varys digesting that news and opting for treason are major occurrences that sealed her descent. They absolutely should have let that cook, it's the fuel that pushed her over the edge.
Instead they crammed all that into 20 minutes of episode 4 and ruined what should've been a great heel turn.
Seriously.D&D got the call from Disney about Star Wars and said "We gotta wrap this shyt up ASAP, fukk what HBO wants"
There are different groups of people that are upset by this.I am laughing my ass off at the people who are so upset. Yeah, things are rushed. At least another 20 episodes were needed. But the people who are like, "This is not my Dragon Queen." Oh the tears are sweet. George fukking said that this shyt was going to be bittersweet. Did motherfukkers not get the memo when our boy Ned got his head cut off? And let's be real about something. Dany brought Dothraki with her. What in the fukking fukk do you think they're going to do? You know what's going to happen. Thousands of women in Westeros in 9 months would be popping out tan Dothraki rape baby b*stards. That's what Daenerys brought to Westeros. Or remember when she lined the road to Mereen with the bodies of the rich upper class. Dany stans clapped for that. You go girl! Girl power!!!! Break that wheel bytch!!! And the only reason why she didn't do worse, is because she had Barristen and Jorah to keep her ass in check. Who she threatened to kill if they did so in public again. And those were her boys.
But now she has nobody. They killed her home girl Missandei. Let's also be real with her. Had D&D given the show two more seasons, we would have seen more of the shytty racist treatment she and Grey Worm experienced. She didn't say dracarys for nothing. She was saying light these cacs up
And now people are mad, because they didn't pay attention, and named their daughters after her
I'm going to spoiler this just in case someone pops in here by accident (I see dora upping old threads). Complete rundown of the finale.
SPOILERS
Jon, Davos and Tyrion are walking through the aftermath of Kings Landing. Tyrion walks through what's left of the castle and sees Jaime's hand so he starts to uncover the rubble and he confirms both Cersei and Jaime are dead. They find Grey Worm and his men they have Lannister Soldiers trapped and they're about to kill them. Jon trys to tells Grey Worm to stop. Grey Worm tells Jon that its the queens orders. Then they cut to Dany giving a speech pretty much saying how she freed the people from Kings Landing and the new goal is freeing the rest of the world. Dany turns to Tyrion and tells him he committed treason. Tyrion tells her that she killed thousands of innocent people and he takes off the hands pin and throws it. Dany sends him to prison.
Jon goes to see her and she sitting on the Iron throne alone and John tells her that she needs to stop being a crazy bytch and that Grey Worm killed the Lannisters army from the previous scene. Dany tells Jon that she's doing it for the people. Jon pretends to understand and tricks her. When her guard is down he stabs her. Drogon comes and is standing over her body and he burns or melts the Iron throne and carries her away.
Grey Worm has Tyrion and Jon as his prisoners. The *council is (led by Sansa) tells Grey Worm to release Jon back to them but he refuses. That's when Tyrion says that the new King or Queen should decide what happens to Jon. Sam suggest for a democratic vote for the new king. Tyrion calls that idea stupid. The council votes and decide Bran Should be the King. Bran picks Tyrion as his hand.
Tyrion tells Jon that his punishment is going back to the wall and join the Knights Watch. Grey Worm accepts Jons punishment. He doesn't bend the knee leaves with his troops and Dothraki on ships to go free Slave cities. They show Tyrion leading the council. Jon says goodbye to Sansa and Arya. Arya tells them she isn't going back home. She's going to explore whatever is west of Westeros because that's where no one has been.
The final scene is a Closing montage. You see Arya on a ship, Sansa ruling Winterfell and Jon doesnt stay at the wall he reunites with Tormund and Ghost.
Council Members: Samwell Tarly the Grand Maester, Davos Seaworth Master of ships, Bronn Master of Coin and High Garden, Brienne (not sure) Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Yara Greyjoy Lord of Iron Islands, Robin Arryn Lord of Kingdom of the Mountain and the Vale, Gendry Baratheon Lord of Storm's End, Yohn Royce Lord of Runestone, Hound doesn't get mentioned., Podrick is wheeling around Bran and he protects him.
Ellaria Sand doesn't get mentioned (i asked because she's alive). Sam mentions that they seen Drogon in some location but aren't sure. Bran just says, "ill look for him" They don't have a Master of Laws and Whisperers. Tyrion is looking for the right people to fill those spots. They don't clarify what Bran did when he was in warg during The Long Night. Did i forget to mention the most important detail about this entire episode? our good boy gets a pat from Jon.
May 16th Q&A (Finished)
Source hasn't answered the last 6+ questions so we'll stop taking questions for now to stop annoying them. Maybe more questions will be answered tomorrow.
Is Tyrion making decisions while being a prisoner?
Tyrion is in front of the council as a prisoner of Grey Worm he isn't making decision he is content with being a prisoner he makes suggestions only.
Does drogon have an emotional reaction?
Drogon is emotional as a dragon can get I guess. when Dany dies he comes stands over here and it's all the roar before he brings the iron throne and carries her away.
Why is Grey Worm taking Jon prisoner and later accepting his punishment and just going his merry way with the unsullied and dorthroki?
When Bran names Tyrion as his hand Grey Worm gets upset and says he must pay his crimes. He will by trying to make the world a better place for the rest of his life. Then Tyrion is the one telling Jon he is going back to the Nights Watch. He said Greyworm wanted him dead and Santa wanted him back home so nobody is getting what they want it's a fair compromise.
Does Jon actually leave the wall?
Yes. The last shot is him, Ghost, Tormund and a bunch of the wildings leaving the wall and heading north.
Does Rhaegar come back?
No.
Do they show what Drogon does with Dany?
No
Does Arya travel alone?
No. With a whole crew. No one important that I noticed.
Does Arya have any main characters with her crew?
No.
Does Tully and Riverrun get mentioned?
I don't recall that being mentioned.
Is the Montage Stark's + Wildings?
Yes
Does Jon Kill Danny with long claw?
No uses dagger.
Does Arya and Gendry talk?
They are both part of the Council that are voting for The King but they don't interact.
Does John interact with Arya before killing Dany?
He didn't know that she was there the whole time then he was burning King's landing.
Does Toby get mentioned?
No
Can you give more details about Jon killing Dany? And his emotional state? What made him kill her?
I would have to re-watch that scene.
How does Drogon pick up Dany?
With his feet.
Any signs of resurrection?
None
Any big final twist?
Nope
Any information about isla de las cars?
No
Does Dany threatened his siblings?
He's not sure. He skimmed through most of the episode.
Has source seen the entire episode?
No skimmed through parts of the episode.
I asked if this episode is based on a single day, weeks or months.
Source said this unfolds in weeks. Tyrion mentions having weeks to think while in prison.
May 17th Q&A (ongoing)
Do you know what Arya is doing in the scene from the preview?
Listening to Danys speech.
Does Bran, Sansa, Arya and John interact right before they separate?
All they do is say goodbye before Jon leaves.