OPEN Game of Thrones Season 8 SPOILERS and Leaks Discussion

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I don’t see them altering the endgame for Jon and Dany. Those are probably the only two characters the showrunners consulted with GRRM about. The entire series is essentially about them, the show’s brand is carried by them.. I really doubt they would shoehorn a Jon/Dany love story followed by a Dany turn if it wasn’t something that was transpiring in the books.

I agree Jon and Dany will meet and have a relationship. But consider the fact that Jon is currently residing inside Ghost rn in the books. How long is it going to take for him to return to his body? Meanwhile, Dany is about to torch the Dothraki at the end of ADWD. She's presumably gonna head back to Meereen after that...and may head to Volantis after that before going to Westeros. Personally I think she's going to hear about Aegon the minute she gets back to Meereen, and it will cause her to abruptly depart for Westeros.

Given that there are two books left, and Dany may not even be heading towards Westeros by the halfway point of TWOW...I feel pretty confident that the stories will be quite different. I think MOST of the storyline about Dany's jealousy and tensions with a (alleged) family member will be with Aegon. Hell the show even named Jon "Aegon." Obviously we know that's not going to be his real name in the books, but I think there's some irony to it: Dany will meet and perhaps fall in love with an Aegon...but it won't be Jon.
 

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Gendry? Tyrion? Arya? Sansa? Euron? Yara? Sweet Robin? Sam?:mjlol:

Man when you lay out all the names like this and even add Jon/Dany it really does become a non-joking question of who gives a fukk doesn't it:scusthov:

I'm just here for fire and raping and pillaging now :shaq:
 

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Did the ending really leak?

Is it trash?

No. Nothing is proven yet. The only reason the last episode got validated was because the episode leaked. Most of the shyt we’ve read sounds like :duck:

Now with that being said, the spoilers COULD be true but we won’t know until nikkas start providing screenshots
 
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Compilation of the accurate leaks so far, going back to June 2018.



Compilation of leakers who have given accurate details from episodes. All these leakers gave information before the episodes aired;
u/afraidpart dated June 14, 2018

from last time:

  • cersei and jaime are holding each other when they die

  • jon snow and dani survive from this time:

  • only one dragon is left

  • something to do with a scorpion needle one of the dragons and the lannisters? idk if I heard him correctly.

  • last three episodes are in front of king's landing

  • the undead things are dealt with in the first three episodes

  • misandai (?) maybe dies? he doesn't know

  • cersei makes a meat shield of all the innocent people to stop them from coming in

  • the dragon blasts through all the people/doesn't care

  • "arya is useless"

  • there's a scene where a horse gets ripped in half by the dragon

  • cersei is watching the dragon coming in, and the witch doctor is like 'we should leave'

  • there's a sort of 'flashback' where she thinks about how she blew up something in her city (I don't know what the fukk he was talking about here, but I recorded it anyway) and the dragon blowing things up reminds her of that?

  • the hound and his brother fight and they end up both dying in fire by falling in

  • "he finally takes the helmet off the ugly guy"

  • cersei goes into the chambers where you first see the "catapult things"

  • jaime shows up and they're all omg and they hold each other and everything crumbles

  • the dragon enters the throne room and fukks shyt up

  • the iron throne gets melted by the dragon


u/afraidpart dated July 14, 2018

  • The Mountain (?) kills Missandae. He beheads her. I am VERY fukking certain of this but I can't say why. If I'm certain of anything, though, it's this.

  • Jon Snow finally sees Arya after they get to the throne? Idk exactly where but after Cersei and Jaime die he 'finally sees her'

  • They have these shards that they're using to kill everything that's undead.

  • the undead dragon is trying to kill people and when it breathes fire the flames are coming out of its neck because its been hurt. he thinks Jon Snow kills that dragon.

  • When Daenerys is making her speech everyone is mad at her. Tyrion makes some comment (he doesn't get sound) and throws his pin (?) on the ground and she sends him to the prison? Idk what was going on here.
Danaerys actually DOES die, she's killed (stabbed I think) by Jon Snow. She goes back to the throne room and touches the throne. Has no idea WHY he kills her, there's a missing chunk. but it happens in the throne room. I asked him why and he said he doesn't know and I don't even think they saw the actual death scene, just the fact that she's dead. so he's only assuming she gets murdered, otherwise she commits suicide but that doesn't make much sense. Then the dragon flies away with her body but doesn't kill Snow. Either way, she dies.



u/Spoiler_throwitaway dated December 9, 2018 and edited April 17, 2018 before episode aired. More edits were added afterwards, but the information prior to latest edit is as follows.

So a family member worked on set in Ireland for about 6 months and told me a few bits they were involved in. I don't really have a way of proving these things so feel free to not believe me!

  • Lyanna Mormont becomes a WW - this is maybe 70% as family member isn't the biggest fan of the show so wasn't sure of her name.

  • Cersi gets killed by Jon Snow - not sure on the circumstances.

  • Reek gets killed - not sure who by and not confirmed. Possibly while charging to kill the Night King.

  • Arya kills the Night King, she jumps down from a tree and gets him when he is about to kill Bran 100% unless they filmed another ending somewhere else.
And that's all I've got. These might have been leaked before already, I'm not sure. Edit - just had it confirmed that when family member said Jon kills the one I hate he meant Dani, not Cersi. So Jon kills Dani, don't know if Cersi dies by Jon.



u/throwaway5873421- account now deleted [dated April 28, 2019]

Euron's fleet takes down Rhaegal.

  • Jaime betrays the North. Missandei is captured.

  • Dany's army captures Jaime. Brienne tries to talk to him but he refuses.

  • Sansa tells Tyrion about Jon's lineage. Tyrion tells Varys.

  • Varys betrays Dany because he thinks Jon would be a better ruler.

  • Cersei has Missandei executed.

  • Dany has Varys executed. Dany assaults King's Landing and it's one-sided as hell.

  • Tyrion begs her to show mercy but she refuses.

  • Tyrion frees Jaime to try to get Cersei out of the city.

  • King's Landing gets wrecked in the battle. Drogon burns Euron's fleet.

  • The Hound fights his brother. They both die.

  • Jaime fights Euron and kills him, but Jaime is mortally wounded.

  • Jaime makes it to Cersei and they die together.

  • Dany is executing everyone in King's Landing. Jon and Tyrion are upset.

  • Dany has Tyrion arrested to be executed for freeing Jaime.

  • Tyrion tries to convince Jon that his family will never be safe because his lineage makes him a threat to Dany's rule.

  • Jon tries to talk to Dany but she justifies her actions.

  • Jon pledges himself to Dany but then stabs her, then surrenders himself.


A council gets formed to decide who the King should be. Tyrion gives a speech and everyone votes on Bran to become King. The end.

In the epilogue, Jon takes the black again for killing Dany. Arya leaves. Sansa rules the North. Bran oversees his council of Tyrion, Davos, Sam, and Bronn.



**Q&A from u/throwaway5873421



Q How sure are you about Jaime being the one killing Euron?

A I did see Jaime fighting Euron. Otherwise, I'm avoiding specifics because ... anyone leaking at this point has seen incomplete episodes (myself included), where the CGI/editing/etc is incomplete. Not only does that mean unimportant things can change, it means we can burn ourselves or our source if we identify something that was only in a certain iteration of the episode. So, I stick to the main important plot points, the ones that shouldn't change. I guess how Euron dies to is pretty unimportant compared to the rest, but we'll see how it unfolds. That sounds like a lot of Euron screentime to me, and Tyrion is arrested to be put on trial, he's just not killed. Another reason to avoid specifics is that most legitimate leakers have watched things chopped up, which makes it difficult to interpret specific character motivations. If we see Dany keep Jaime confined and Tyrion free him to try to save Cersei, that leads to certain assumptions about why he's confined. So... we'll see, I guess. Almost all of the bullet points I posted should be broadly accurate.



Q I understand what you are saying. I can assume then that you saw a scene where Jon takes the black then what’s your confidence of that?

A He definitely takes the black and returns north. Based off some leaks coming out today for tonight's episode that have a scene with Bran I never saw, it seems like King Bran will be involved in that decision.



Q Do you know anymore details about Cersei? Do Jaime and Cersei have any more scenes together except them dying together?

AWhen Jaime shows up to try to get Cersei out of the city, she has this speech about just wanting the baby to survive. Jaime tells her that the baby never mattered, that only she mattered, that only they mattered. That's when they die together.



The Mountain gets his helmet knocked off and looks dumb. The Hound tackles him off a ledge and they both land in fire and burn to death.



I indeed do not say that... I don't know why he takes the black. The thing about legitimate leaks is that legitimate leakers almost always see the episode in a chopped up, incomplete state, unless it's literally about to air, so character motivations are the hardest thing to interpret (and therefore the easiest thing to be wrong about). It's like if you watched an episode out-of-order, muted, and with scenes missing.



u/gotit1111 gave accurate information about episodes 1 & 2 season 7 and episode 4 of season 8. Information about episode 5



“So got some info. Looks like it confirms some of the leaks mentioned above. Varys dies next episode (Dany burns him alive), Dany and Unsullied fukk up kings landing and they begin to surrender but the surrender bells that sound off in a tower literally "break" Dany mentally and she goes pure mad targaryan. It sounds like it is setting up Jon and Grey Worm confrontation. Grey Worm also lets his anger get the better of him as Lannister troops surrender he says fukk it and throws a spear at a soldier which starts a crazy riot where Dany's army starts raping and pillaging everyone. Jon is like wtf apparantly but gets caught up in the battle to really do anything (lannisters start attacking again). There was a leak I read earlier I'll try and find it because what my source was telling me was very similiar to that leak and they more or less confirmed everything in that leak 100% true.” “Yeah i think Unsullied are just indiscriminately killing (women and children) and Dothraki go on a rape rampage. Source didnt get specific but I dont see Unsullied doing any penetrating except with an actual spear. Cleganebowl happens this episode (5) and they do both die. Grey Worm and Jon have a big stare down and Grey Worm thinks Jon is gonna start killing Unsullied so hes like waiting for Jon to turn on Dany so he can kill him but a Lannister soldier distracts Jon instead. Source says they are heavily saying Dany is going mad so I would put some weight to the leaks saying Jon kills Dany. I mentioned that to the source and they just said "Oh yeah definitely leading up to that" so take that for what it is. No mention of Arya unfortunately, she must be more for episode 6? Not sure. Honestly when they told me "bells make her snap" my jaw hit the floor. Im personally not liking these and the more silly ones (Bran becoming the king) have a very real possibility of being legit imo. Hopefully the execution is better.”
 

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I thought this point was interesting too.

I'm avoiding specifics because ... anyone leaking at this point has seen incomplete episodes (myself included), where the CGI/editing/etc is incomplete. Not only does that mean unimportant things can change, it means we can burn ourselves or our source if we identify something that was only in a certain iteration of the episode. So, I stick to the main important plot points, the ones that shouldn't change. I guess how Euron dies to is pretty unimportant compared to the rest, but we'll see how it unfolds.

Another reason to avoid specifics is that most legitimate leakers have watched things chopped up, which makes it difficult to interpret specific character motivations. If we see Dany keep Jaime confined and Tyrion free him to try to save Cersei, that leads to certain assumptions about why he's confined. So... we'll see, I guess. Almost all of the bullet points I posted should be broadly accurate.

The thing about legitimate leaks is that legitimate leakers almost always see the episode in a chopped up, incomplete state, unless it's literally about to air, so character motivations are the hardest thing to interpret (and therefore the easiest thing to be wrong about). It's like if you watched an episode out-of-order, muted, and with scenes missing.
 
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Say Jon kills Dany and refuses the throne because of it.

Who do you think should be king? Who makes sense?

Honestly I think it SHOULD either be Dany or Jon. That makes the most sense out of the characters who are alive, and i’m not talking about shock value. Either that or Tyrion, Varys, and Davos form a coalition to bring Democracy into the realm.

Bran as King makes zero sense given the fact that he simply doesn’t give a fukk about even being Lord Of Winterfell, let alone the ENTIRE SEVEN KINGDOMS
 

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Honestly I think it SHOULD either be Dany or Jon. That makes the most sense out of the characters who are alive, and i’m not talking about shock value. Either that or Tyrion, Varys, and Davos form a coalition to bring Democracy into the realm.

Bran as King makes zero sense given the fact that he simply doesn’t give a fukk about even being Lord Of Winterfell, let alone the ENTIRE SEVEN KINGDOMS
The leaks suggest that there will be a coalition formed. A great council that forms a proto parliament.

Jon doesn’t want to be king either so I’m not sure why that is such a sticking point.
 

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The leaks suggest that there will be a coalition formed. A great council that forms a proto parliament.

Jon doesn’t want to be king either so I’m not sure why that is such a sticking point.

Because Bran is still supposedly the one leading the Council or being King. Which again, goes against everything we know from Bran/3ER so far on the TV show. He's said multiple times he doesn't care about being a lord nor ruling or leading ANYTHING.

Nothing from the leaks suggest that him changing his mind would make any sense whatsoever.

Now, if they filmed a bunch of different endings, Bran ending up as King/ruler/leader might just be a fake finale. Still, him ending up in any position of power doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

"If Jon refuses and Dany dies, who should be king/ruler". I honestly don't know, what I do know is that the answer is never Bran, because he wants it even less than fukking Jon.
 
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