yseJ
Empire strikes back
when were we pass first the last time? are you sure you were watching the Niners breh?
One more Chip, still 5 rings: Official 49ers 2016 Offseason Thread
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when were we pass first the last time? are you sure you were watching the Niners breh?
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
These guys did a full analysis: Freakonomics » Does Defense Really Win Championships?
The ending is pretty funny in hindsight
yseJ
Empire strikes back
I have my own analysis breh. Plus their analysis is pretty damn basic
jwonder
Superstar
49ers first need I think is to get O linemen. Then focus on the defense. Defense wins chips. We got a stud RB. shyt we have a few backs to be run heavy which can set up the pass. Blaine Gabbert is good enough if we concentrate on that. Besides no QB's in the draft IMO. The O lineman is an important pickup though. I do think Brown maybe a steal so far.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
when.... we for 4 years straight we were running 4-5 receiver sets and trying to be spread team
it might not have been 30 throws a game... but we wasn't bringing in 8 receivers a year for running the ball
why you think THIS year all the talk was going BACK to running the ball... why would you need to go back if that was already the plan
yseJ
Empire strikes back
What the fukk are you talking about breh. We were one of the most conservative teams in the league under Harriman (and for a good reason too) . We led the league in 22 personnel by a huge margin.
Meaning, we were in one WR sets the most out of all teams in the league.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
breh i just explained this... i did NOT mean they were passing all the time
i mean they were going for a #1 receiver so they could switch to passing... they never got him... while trying and spending time and money getting receivers every single damn year.... so it was obvious we were trying
then when they fired harbs... what did everyone in the FO say.... we want to GET BACK to running the ball and focusing on defense
why do you need to get the focus back to something you were already focused on
Yea...we are not pass first. Not even close.
JetLife
/ SOHH /
People in here really advocating for a 1st Round / #1 WR when we don't even have a QB, much less a system/coach? 
How many 1st round / WR1's did the Patriots, Seahawks, Ravens have in the last 3 SB wins? 0.
How many Super Bowl runs have Julio Jones, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson been a part of? 0.
Get a coach. Define a system. Acquire talent that fits said system.
How many 1st round / WR1's did the Patriots, Seahawks, Ravens have in the last 3 SB wins? 0.
How many Super Bowl runs have Julio Jones, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson been a part of? 0.
Get a coach. Define a system. Acquire talent that fits said system.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
1. nobody said 1st roundPeople in here really advocating for a 1st Round / #1 WR when we don't even have a QB, much less a system/coach?
How many 1st round / WR1's did the Patriots, Seahawks, Ravens have in the last 3 SB wins? 0.
How many Super Bowl runs have Julio Jones, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson been a part of? 0.
Get a coach. Define a system. Acquire talent that fits said system.
2. gronk is #1 wr who happens to play te
3. getting a coach will not stop us from getting a wr or a qb
4. no qb in this draft will make us give up kaep
5. lets bet on number 4
People in here really advocating for a 1st Round / #1 WR when we don't even have a QB, much less a system/coach?
How many 1st round / WR1's did the Patriots, Seahawks, Ravens have in the last 3 SB wins? 0.
How many Super Bowl runs have Julio Jones, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson been a part of? 0.
Get a coach. Define a system. Acquire talent that fits said system.
What kind of logic is this? We should draft best player available that fits our needs... Preferably oline but if there is a stud game-changing receiver out there then what's the problem?
B90X
All Star
Any Guard we want to get can be had in the 2nd round and after. Right now, the line looks like it'll be Staley-Tiller-Kilgore-*****-Brown. If AD comes back and kicks to guard, that's great. If not, we still have Brandon Thomas even though nobody knows what we have in him. Drafting a guard in the first round, I don't think, is the highest priority.
I'm firmly in the "We need to draft a #1 receiver" boat. We haven't had a true #1 receiver since T.O. Every year we bring in bargain basement receivers and try to find a diamond in the rough. What's that gotten us? We need to finally draft a #1 receiver. I doubt Boldin comes back next year.
If we're not going to go WR with the #1 pick, then we damn sure better go ILB.
TE is another concern, but remember we stashed Busta Anderson on IR.
We should be good at RB, but we'll still probably draft one or two.
QB is the tricky one, though. Depending on who the coach is, we may or may not draft a QB with our first pick.
feelosofer
#ninergang
he showed up at the end of the year, i like him, he really accelerates quickly forward
hes gotta get stronger though
trent brown will be the steal of this draft
look at how he b!tches chris long
and of course pears fuks up a potential big run, look at that hole
why wasnt he starting by week 2 i'll never know
Been told y'all about Trent Brown. That fat boy can move.
Fade Runner 2049
Veteran
nikkas mentioning the Patriots as an example of a team who wins without a star receiver, like they don't have a goat level QB, coach and system 
The Seahawks don't have a star receiver but they have a great system and coaching.
I don't have any faith that Jed will get a top level coach who will develop a system that would get us to the promise land with Torrey smith as the #1 along with trash ass Bruce Ellington (worst kick returner in the league btw) and the ever reliable but old Anquan Bolden.
The Seahawks don't have a star receiver but they have a great system and coaching.
I don't have any faith that Jed will get a top level coach who will develop a system that would get us to the promise land with Torrey smith as the #1 along with trash ass Bruce Ellington (worst kick returner in the league btw) and the ever reliable but old Anquan Bolden.
feelosofer
#ninergang
Looking into the draft I'm not that crazy about this years WR class. Assuming we don't use a draft pick, I'd rather we trade down a few spots and pick up the best OL available. I like that lummox from LSU, Alexander I think his name is.