One more Chip, still 5 rings: Official 49ers 2016 Offseason Thread

[JLova]

If you want to sit here and at like there was not great talent across the board when he got here be my guest

No one is arguing this.

 

[JLova]

Any Guard we want to get can be had in the 2nd round and after. Right now, the line looks like it'll be Staley-Tiller-Kilgore-*****-Brown. If AD comes back and kicks to guard, that's great. If not, we still have Brandon Thomas even though nobody knows what we have in him. Drafting a guard in the first round, I don't think, is the highest priority.

I'm firmly in the "We need to draft a #1 receiver" boat. We haven't had a true #1 receiver since T.O. Every year we bring in bargain basement receivers and try to find a diamond in the rough. What's that gotten us? We need to finally draft a #1 receiver. I doubt Boldin comes back next year.

If we're not going to go WR with the #1 pick, then we damn sure better go ILB.

TE is another concern, but remember we stashed Busta Anderson on IR.

We should be good at RB, but we'll still probably draft one or two.

QB is the tricky one, though. Depending on who the coach is, we may or may not draft a QB with our first pick.

I can't disagree here. I don't think there is a QB out there that I'd want to draft at 7. Maybe I'll change my mind but would rather draft a QB or trade for one later.

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

Oh yeah. There was no talent at all on this team before Harbaugh got here. He built it from the ground up.

They had talent yes. They also drafted talent. And NO ONE ON PLANET EARTH believed that Alex Smith would Be able to lead the 49ers to the playoffs. But anyway, there's no way to discredit harbaughs coaching ability even if the team was "stacked" since we see time and time again teams in every sport with major talent lose without a good coach

 

[B90X]

 

[JLova]

And there are folk who thought the line was adequate/good on the 9er board.

 

[B90X]

Ripped this from Webzone. Somebody was able to get the final PFF grades for the season.

PFF grade scale >59 = replaceable, 60-69 = back up, 70-84 = starter, 85 = Pro Bowl

PLAYER/ PFF grade, rank, status, similar well-known player to give a frame of reference

QB
Gabbert 67 29 hi backup Ryan Fitzpatrick

RB
Hyde 79 19 starter Gio Bernard
Harris 78 21 starter "
Hayne 67 47 backup Rashad Jennings (limited snaps)
Draughn 60 54 backup Shane Vereen

FB:
Miller 61 14 backup John Kuhn (very few quality FBs in the league, 20 pt drop from #1 to #3)

WR
Boldin 80 34 starter Jericho Cotchery
Patton 70 69 starter Cole Beasley
Smith 69 74 backup Cecil Shorts

TE
Celek 71 30 starter tied with Jason Witten
McDonald 64 46 Rhett Ellison (there is a huge drop from the top 8 TEs and the rest of the league)

OT
Staley 86 8 Pro Bowl Mitchell Schwartz (shiny star right there)
Brown 60 39 Riley Reiff (limited snaps)

OG
Tiller 79 22 starter Josh Kline
Boone 65 39 Jahri Evans

CENTER
Kilgore 39 39 Joe Looney (still has not regained form, will he?)

CORNERBACKS
Ward 78.4 32 starter, Aqib Talib
Brock 77.7 38 starter Kyle Fuller
Cromartie 73 54 starter Charles Tillman (limited snaps)
Johnson 71 58 starter Nolan Carroll
Acker 59 70 backup Brandon Carr
Reaser 57 73 replace Philip Adams (very limited snaps)

SAFETY
Reid 76 37 starter Will Allen
Bethea 60 71 backup Brandon Meriweather
Tartt 55 77 replaceable nobody you know

LINEBACKERS
Bowman 61 50 backup Stephen Tulloch (overall grade hurt by poor early season performance. Also continued struggles in coverage)
Hedges 42 72 replaceable Ryan Shazier

INTERIOR DEFENDERS
Willaims 86 18 Pro Bowl Dan Williams (MUST re-sign this cat. He is very under-appreciated.
Armstead 79 31 starter Stephen Tuitt (2nd higher rating of all rookie Interior Defenders. Leonard Williams was #1)
Carradine 75 53 starter Sharrif Floyd (limited snaps in a position that was new to him)
Dial 73 67 starter Mike DeVito (still learning the position)
Purcell 65 95 backup Star Lotuleili
Dorsey 63 100 Domata Peko (Seemed to struggle in new system early)
Jerod-Eddie 64 100 "

EDGE DEFENDERS
Lynch 81 28 starter JPP (4th most productive pass rusher in the league!)
Harold 63 76 backup Darryl Tapp (starter grade in run defense, replacement in pass rush and coverage, def needs improvement)
Brooks 54 86 replace Rob Ninkovich (not in future plans)
Lemonier 47 102 replace

 

[Heretic]

We definitely need linemen above anything

 

[sdizzy1]

I agree we need lineman, but I'm okay with BPA if we get the right VALUE for the pick. Trade that pick for more players, but I'm not sure Baalke knows how to find any WR worth a damn in the draft.

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

the oline is obviously the weak point of this team, but i feel like with 1 or 2 moves this off-season it can be very solid again, especially with Davis coming back.

we have some good young players to build with right now and probably 1-2 years away from being super bowl contenders again with the right coach. this is gonna be one hell of an off-season since a lot is riding on it

 

[B90X]

Sean Payton press conference today...

edit: He's staying put in NOLA

 

[jwonder]

I agree we need lineman, but I'm okay with BPA if we get the right VALUE for the pick. Trade that pick for more players, but I'm not sure Baalke knows how to find any WR worth a damn in the draft.

I hope they trade the pick. The best player is Jalen Ramsey but he won't be there when we pick

 

[FakeNews]

Its looking like Payton is staying with the Saints

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

yall can officially take payton off the wishlist

 

[jwonder]

Just hire Hue Jackson and get it over with

 

[Heretic]

Well back to square one