Old Going For Gold: USA Men's Olympic Basketball - Next Up The Main Event vs France (8/10 @ 3:30pm ET)

Where Will The Olympic Team Medal?

  • Gold

    Votes: 168 91.3%
  • Silver

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • Bronze

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • No Medal

    Votes: 5 2.7%

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rbksNgirbauds

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The answer to every concern about the 2028 Olympics we already have the answer too in house, that player is Ant, no doubt about it. Dude is going to be scary good Lord willing we see the day. He just got the experience, and has every bit the intangibles and leadership capabiities to anchor next terms team. If it's nothing else America does, its this hoops shyt
World gone get mobbed on again. This shyt don't stop
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Ja-Ant-Book-Tatum-Bam

Lamelo-Hali-Paolo-Zion-Chet

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I’m starting the vets but that 2nd unit may be better than the first :snoop: Clingan is size insurance. Lamelo is my pipe dream bc he’s that good but you can replace him with Jaylen. Brown or Williams….or Cade Cunningham. Or Cooper Flagg if he’s like that. What are we even talking about. The only question is do we pick the best or do we pick role players and ‘fit’
 

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Serbia gotta qualify first :gucci: they didnt in 2021

This why we keep saying yall gotta be consistent breh. Everybody gettin better will effect the US but not Serbia

To repeat, you can’t assume exponential improvement at the country level. Spain never got better. Argentina never got better. Puerto Rico never got bereft. So be specific, France and Canada are the only 2 countries that should be referenced as threats

White ice is colder.

You are not debating Black Americans...
 

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:dead:nikka YOU GETTING ABSOLUTELY SHREDDED
IN THIS THREAD.

FOH WITH YOUR CAC ASS GIF.

NON OF THOSE DUDES ARE SUPER STARS
AND I ALREADY SAID ANT
IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SHOWN
THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE IT THERE.

nikkaS NOT EVEN BETTER
THAN TATUM AND YOU
ALREADY FLIPPED ON HIM
AND TOSSED HIM IN THE BUSHES.


:devil:
:evil:




None of them are superstars but Wemby is??
 
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The thing is those countries always have a problem dealing with is the U.S's defense.

Not another country out there can swarm like they can. None.

It's their M.O all the way back to younger FIBA players. Get turnovers, generate a lot of pressure, attack the weakest link and blow the game open.
Actually Canada proved they can do just that.

They've got some of the best perimeter defenders in the world, you could even argue the highest volume of perimeter defenders out of every country, and were only really missing a defensive big man during this campaign (which they'll be hoping Edey can turn into). Those same players will be there in four years time.

In the same vein, with Wemby anchoring their defense, all these young French prospects have the length and size to be difference makers on defense too.
Many of those players who didn't really play/anchor that 4th quarter will be there the next go round are going to be impressive defenders. Some of these cats on this team will probably have a ring or two on the big stage by 2028. U.S will have a lot of exceptional 2-way players for 2028 that international competition won't have any plan to deal with once they turn it on as a team.

You need five really good, clutch players to match that level Team USA goes to when their intensity picks up and I don't think any other team mostly full of journeymen players does.
I think you're taking too much of what you saw out of what they showed in this Olympics and thinking it'll transfer over to the next. It's much easier to play that sort of defense when that becomes either one of/or your primary role, which it was for everyone not named KD, Bron and Steph. Of course, you can have that defensive intensity parlaying off the runs that those players create on the other end of the floor, but what happens when that level of talent isn't there?

What happens when that level of harmony on offense isn't present and players lose their bearings? What happens when the offense is jacking up shots with no sense of hierarchy or balance?

Someone made mention about having Ja, Ant, Zion etc at the next Olympics, as if this is 2k and you can run out these players with the best overall ratings and magic will happen.

It doesn't work like that.

I think a lot of folks have taken for granted how special KD is during the Olympics. He could get a bucket against any type of defender, in any type of situation, and he didn't need to be all up in the videos whilst doing it. None of these next generation of stars have proven they can do anything remotely on that level. They either thrive in chaos, and/or can't take smart shots and have little-to-no grasp of how to manage runs, which isn't conducive to winning in FIBA play. You need to have a constant half-court prescence throughout a game to maintain control; you can't just keep up trying to generate offense on the break or coming down the the floor and resorting to junk offense (which Ant pretty much did all Olympics). It's not the NBA.
 
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Ngga where. You on @Gil Scott-Heroin side that should tell you enough. Reputation in shambles :bryan:
Reputation? You're a nobody on this board. Nobody gives a fukk about your opinion. Take your lame ass that way.
Wemby in 4 years will be the best player in the league :yeshrug: . Replacing KD/Bron/Steph isnt as simple as yall making it out to be...Embiid matches up well against Jokic and he wont be back either.


USA should be legitimately concerned
I think we all can conlude that if KD, Bron and Steph didn't commit to this Olympics, we would've lost.

Which is strange to me that folks in here seem to think it's a foregone conclusion they'll have no trouble winning at the next Olympics when none of those players will be there in that capacity. We'll essentially be starting from scratch with the chain of command, and who will be playing what role. That's going to take a substantial amount of time to build rapport and work out exactly who is capable of leading the offense.
 

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Actually Canada proved they can do just that.

They've got some of the best perimeter defenders in the world, you could even argue the highest volume of perimeter defenders out of every country, and were only really missing a defensive big man during this campaign (which they'll be hoping Edey can turn into). Those same players will be there in four years time.

In the same vein, with Wemby anchoring their defense, all these young French prospects have the length and size to be difference makers on defense too.

I think you're taking too much of what you saw out of what they showed in this Olympics and thinking it'll transfer over to the next. It's much easier to play that sort of defense when that becomes either one of/or your primary role, which it was for everyone not named KD, Bron and Steph. Of course, you can have that defensive intensity parlaying off the runs that those players create on the other end of the floor, but what happens when that level of talent isn't there?

What happens when that level of harmony on offense isn't present and players lose their bearings? What happens when the offense is jacking up shots with no sense of hierarchy or balance?

Someone made mention about having Ja, Ant, Zion etc at the next Olympics, as if this is 2k and you can run out these players with the best overall ratings and magic will happen.

It doesn't work like that.

I think a lot of folks have taken for granted how special KD is during the Olympics. He could get a bucket against any type of defender, in any type of situation, and he didn't need to be all up in the videos whilst doing it. None of these next generation of stars have proven they can do anything remotely on that level. They either thrive in chaos, and/or can't take smart shots and have little-to-no grasp of how to manage runs, which isn't conducive to winning in FIBA play. You need to have a constant half-court prescence throughout a game to maintain control; you can't just keep up trying to generate offense on the break or coming down the the floor and resorting to junk offense (which Ant pretty much did all Olympics). It's not the NBA.
I guess we'll see what happens in four years.
 
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Chet is a better shooter from 2 and 3 point. Calling someone generational before they’ve accomplished anything doesn’t mean anything to me. Wemby averaged 21 points on a 22 win team. :unimpressed:
This is what happens when you let box score stats dictate how you view the game.

The fact I told you that we won't have a player to match Wemby in 2028, and you replied that Bam "25 and 11" Adebayo will be able to, is really all the more reflective of how delusional and absent from reality you are about this topic. Bam is your standard type of star, who is more a complimentary player on offense, and about as versatile on defense as any big man we have.

But trying to compare him to what Wemby will eventually become is like saying Vince Carter can match Bron. You've removed all context of how they exist as players, and hung your entire argument on PPG, acting like you're actually saying something when all you're doing is reading some numbers off a screen and equating 20=20.

It's really no wonder you don't know what the hell you're talking about in here.

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Reputation? You're a nobody on this board. Nobody gives a fukk about your opinion. Take your lame ass that way.

That’s cute but real shyt man I’m just glad to know you didn’t kill yourself. Mans was the resident punching bag then disappeared. We were worried :francis: Keep your head up lil buddy
 

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Lets say Booker,Tatum,Edwards,Jaylen Brown, Bam (If Spo is coaching he will be on team),Haliburton,AD are all locks. Team will probably need an solid Captain. They gonna need that older player with multiple medals that guy will be AD (just for sake he also plays in LA)). The 2028 team will need experience and solid chemistry. These young cats some of yall mention will have egos not being put into game. South Sudan,Serbia.Germany,Canada ,Slovenia France will all be better.Funny thing is 2028 Olympics more people are looking forward to Flag Football then Basketball :russ:.

Booker
Taturm
Edwards
Brown
Haliburton
Bam
AD (Captain moreso then being best big man in the NBA by then)
 

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Morant and Melo should be the best point guards in the league around that time.

Pencil them in for any fantasy draft you are making.
 
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4 years ago nobody thought an old ass LeBron would be Olympic MVP but these other countries have this master plan to beat the greatest basketball powerhouse of all times.

Never change thecoli.com

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I mean, isn't that kind of the point?

Nobody thought that because we thought the next generation of stars would've taken over by now. Like it's always been for the last 20-30 years.

Why did we need Bron's old ass to come to the rescue? If we have this supposed command of superstar talent, why did we need nxggas at their end of their respective careers to carry our squad? Because make no mistake about it, if Bron, KD and Steph didn't commit to this Olympics, we would've lost, and all this talk around how we've got the most talent would be futile.

Folks would be talking about our product line of discontinued superstar players. Where are they? Where did they go?

And NOBODY would be optimistic about 2028. Everyone would be destitute of any hope, talking about who's going to lead us at the next Olympics.

Yet it's seemingly a bridge too far for some to talk about that [possible] reality in here.
 

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Morant and Melo should be the best point guards in the league around that time.

Pencil them in for any fantasy draft you are making.

That’s the guy people are forgetting about. That kid is 22 years old. Was an all star at 20.

People don’t know or respect history. An elite PG, a true PG, in any Olympic/all star format is a cheat code. To have Ja and Lamelo setting the table we would destroy teams.
Ja-Lamelo-Ant-Zion on the break :scusthov: Dudes seriously played themself this thread
 
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