Oh no, lame ass Nas Stans... Revisit: Droog is NOT Nas. Lets Talk About How Losersish You Losers Are

[CrimsonTider]

Who is "nobody" nikka, how does nobody like a critically acclaimed, Grammy nominated album that moved 150,000 copies first week obviously there's a lot of people out there that like it.

Nas makes music for his fans...

He tries to expand his fan base not by making hits like most other artist but, by publicity stunts.

 

[Yoda]

No you are the nerd ass nikka. If have yet to come across a nikka that actually likes Nas. Everybody fukked with his old shyt. Nobody fukks with the bullshyt he's been putting out.

If you nikkas like it then that's on you. But don't try to make other nikkas like it or pass it off as this nikka moving the culture forward or some shyt. His shyt is average just like everyone else.

ill admit Nas isnt the same. But, i know people who are into nas. Maybe you need to go out more

 

[Yoda]

Nas makes music for his fans...

He tries to expand his fan base not by making hits like most other artist but, by publicity stunts.

what pub stunts?

Hip Hop is Dead? somebody had to say it

 

[CrimsonTider]

what pub stunts?

Hip Hop is Dead? somebody had to say it

Hiphop is and was far from dead. Dude couldn't even articulate why he named it that. He just wanted to grab peoples attention.

Trying to position Life is Good like it was going to be some type of "Tell All" on Kelis and having an Album cover with wedding dress

 

[Billy Ocean]

Album cover with wedding dress

Probably borrowed the dress from you, baby girl.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Probably borrowed the dress from you, baby girl.

This is basically what this thread is about.

Nas stans can't call it like it is when it comes to Nas.

 

[mobbinfms]

you say you neg people who was trolling and you and I both know I'm far from a troll

you negged me for a post I made quoting billy ocean that had nothing to do with nas though

im sure billy can fight his own battles and do sent need your help.

Did you see my other post on this? Billy's?

This is what who is talking about? His theory that all Nas fans are b!tchmade has been challenged successfully several times in here already. Name an artist that don't have fans that champion some of their most average or wack songs. Walt knows every artist has these dudes as fans. He was trolling. He doesn't even bother to stand up to those questioning him in regards to that yet. Nas got some b!tchmade fans, Jay got some b!tchmade fans...Wayne, Drake...EVERYBODY. And he may not have put in the original post, but he sh!tted on Nas as an artist SEVERAL times in here.

So instead of crying about how much times I've posted in here on some "why won't he stop" sh!t, you need to really re-read the thread an assess what the fvck is going on. This a blatant troll thread. Walt is a smart cat, he knew what he was doing. I fell for it too.

@Walt too smart to address legitimate arguments. He putting on a trolling clinic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

I have tears in my eyes - no stanbase touches Knauss stans. These cats be dead serious with some of the most cult like behavior I've ever witnessed from a group of handholding dikkriders.

Pac stans are insane, but they simply don't post as much as nas stans, nor with the ferocity, nor do they have the numbers in their stanbase to match Pneiz stans. Em stans are annoying, but even they don't have the numbers or ferocity. Wu Tang stans are ultra-dedicated, but they are usually amusing. Jay stans are doofy, but even they don't go to the bizarre spiritual level of stanning that Nazhs stans achieve.

Cats will literally write essays in which they reimagine how irrelevant album X by Gnars revamped the landscape of hip hop and forced other m.c.s to rise to a new level of ethereal lyricism. They'll revisit his most mediocre albums and figure out ways to rationalize it as a 4.5 mic near classic if you just take off one song, add a track from the Lost Tapes, and swap out track 8 for one of his mixtape freestyles. Then they'll accuse you of "trolling" no matter what you post, because to post about Hnoos in any context except to acknowledge him as the undisputed GOAT has become, through insane cult logic, "trolling." Every horrible song has an excuse built in for it, every gimmick can be explained away as a concept critics simply didn't get, every painfuly moronic interview Qxnoz does is somehow interesting and proof of a profound though misunderstood intellect, every shameful, cynical sellout attempt will be ignored or revised as the exact opposite - or when the evidence is too overwhelming for even the stan brain to do rhetorical gymnastics around, they'll bring up jay-z or some other rapper who made a pop song or pimped a shytty product and shift the discussion to whether morality and integrity is relative. Then when they tire of the usual gay ass playbook, they join like a bunch of juvenile, loserish, bum fukks on a playground and resort to the equivalent of blowing spitballs - they start negging as a network of scorned cornballs, as if anyone with a brain and a maturity level past 14 years old gives a motherfukk about a dumb ass neg. I have like 3,000 points of positive rep, and you shytstains are still wasting your time negging me. And I hope you keep at it like the rockhead idol-worshippers you are, and get me down to -3000, just to see how little a fukk I give and demonstrate how much some simp ass dusthead rapper you've deified is worth to you, you fukking cuckoo ass weirdos.

And here I'm strictly talking about stans and not fans. You guys are seriously the. fukking. worst.

Spoiler

kanye stans are making incredible strides as the worst human beings on the planet. don't want to cheat them.

Brilliant execution of a troll post. Smart of you to ignore the dozens of legit questions/arguments thrown your way. You were waiting for the low hanging fruit. And you got it.
Then you hit us with a fictional essay full of imaginary Nas stans with imaginary techniques. I'm not gonna repeat my request for people to tag the Nas stans in question (I guess i am ) I know no one's gonna do it.
I gotta you for elite level trolling though. This is how it should be done. Less is more.

Why y'all so worked up about this though, like either side for or against Nas?

Out of all anti or pro Nas threads over the course of 2 boards and a decade plus, this is the one that got you mad? And I've seen Walt throw worse criticism and more fair at the Gawd on the old board. This was just going against a few that Droog shyt

Did you catch that one cat talking about a revolution on Nas stans

You are out of your mind. Nas is the only one that is constantly referred to as GOAT in routine post on this board.

No one feels the need to mention their favorite rapper as GOAT when posting outside of Nas fans.

Nas has pulled 3 straight publicity stunts in an effort to expand his fan base because he is incapable of producing the music that is capable of doing so.

Jay was referred to as the GOAT in this very thread

This is the fukking truth.

Smh at these nikkas circle jerking each other in here.

nikkas talking about "as long as you know Nas is the goat in your mind".... fukking pen pack wearing ass nikkas.

don't hold me prison.
all because you don't know your full history.
what do you think the division of old school to new school was about.

why do you think the force mc's, were forced to lean back and be the force md's.
why do you think drake is called soft.
all this shyt was here as pre-emptive in the new school way of though.
as a matter of fact, the new school way of thought almost succumbed to what is occurring now.
when, hammer was around.
yet, the guys who protected the culture who were influential in nas getting where he got.
protected and steer the general fan and gateway of rap back to the essence.
a direction nas could have stayed to and because of the marketing boom from leo burnett to market hiphop.
nas, would have sold the same amount of records he sold on iww.
if it would have had the same cultural based direction as illmatic.

that is what you don't get.
as a matter of fact,..i think your username is quite telling.
as it says, you don't know this because you cling to a period as a gateway through your username.
that says you were around when illmatic rocked as well.
with a username like mobbinfms.

so spare me your questioning,.....when, you should know this anyway.
since you are a qb fan, as the same record nas samped to blow.
that group was the last old school way of thought high drawing artist.
that had a bit of legs in the new school way of thought.
yet, were unable to craft more culturally driven based rap at the time.

so, what are you saying...?
when, you asked me what you asked me.

I DIDN'T ASK YOU A QUESTION. I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD.


no, he didn't...
he played his cards completely wrong.
he should have pulled an action bronson, and made more videos to show he was not ghostface.
plus, had a background in culinary arts to authenicate all the ghostface food references.

he played it completely wrong.
he did what angelous did and lost.
when, angelous came about in a time where there was not much immediate viral presence and failed.

a biter like fab, got over being the new hot mase clone.
just like fiddy was a mase clone.
yet, was getting over.
all, because they had visibility to differentiate whom and what they were about.
aside from the bitten/stolen vocal tones.

droog, could have gotten over on just visuals and people seeing him replicate nas in this day and age.
as, a guy like action bronson's formula is proven and suffers no cred issues from the majority of the people in the know.
when, just like droog,...
action bronson should have just been written off, too.

YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS GETTING AT HERE TOO



it is not a double standard.
it is judging them for what they are and that particular genre.
aside from just my cultural purist view.
as, the reason why i have a draw.
is i am the person who put into words, what made a good non-cultural pop selected rap record.
aside from the non-culture based approach.
on top, of being an incredible purist driven review guy.
i created versatility that many and mostly all purist lack.

that is one of the real reasons, i am a draw at this shyt, for real.

sit back and take notes,..maybe you'll get there one day.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A DRAW HERE.

jay, will always never be regarded as a culturally minded artist.

WHY NOT? ISN'T THAT A DOUBLE STANDARD?

even, if he makes a culturally based pr run to pander.
as we know what he is and what he is about.
plus, he also ushered in making pop based jiggy hook based rap a gateway after big.
so, when the music shifted to that brand of music.
plus, that sonic landscape...
jay, was the first one after big to get the skillset to rock with convincability in that era.
on top, of being the best pr'd rapper in history.
we could also say jayz was the best rapper to learn how to rap in a pop context from.
which is why songs like girls like, jay's performance is given exemplary high marks.
regardless of the piss-poor execution to jack past old school way of thought staples like fly girl and fail miserably.
when, those records and posse records like the grand finale were wack and lacked the energy and performances to out distance the original.
which, all you are supposed to do.
if you wanna rock somebody else's break.
if you don't rock somebody else's break.
it will be deemed wack, and the sum of the parts and a piss poor hood execution.
plus, a lack of vision on flipping a staple break like fly girls.
is, why the sum of the parts jay's record is dissed.
yet, jay's performance is lauded as a technical triumph for the jiggy genre, performance wise.
while nas's attempts to come out of his cultural based genre and roots.
his sweetspot, which he never had to make music out of ever.
as you could say he is a jedi.
it is like asking him to be a jango fett clone and not be a jedi.
then, be judged from just a basic storm trooper perspective.
then, he is the worst storm trooper, ever.
that is the issue with a nas jiggy wannabe pop record submission.
that, i know you are missing and most nas's fans are missing.

STILL SOUNDS LIKE A DOUBLE STANDARD TO ME

plus, the fact..
unlike jayz, nas never ramped up to be consistently good out of his sweetspot.
while jay excelled out of his sweetspot and on the standard breaks as he ramped up.
in what is argueably the greatest ramp up in skill in rap history.
which occurred from 95-2000, for jay skillwise.
then, he fell off as principle's he styles morphed and bit off were no longer consistently present.
to present him a technical rubrick to apply to his one natural gift which is a very versatile mic presence.

unlike nas, who would never be under and never have any scrutiny making culturally based records.

yet, since, nas....
ventured, brazenly into the foray of pop/jiggy records.
plus, was underachiever levels of bad at it.
on top, of being offkey and cramming to many words into a bar on records.
that are supposed to be his sweetspot, like distant relatives.

nas, is going to take way more critical blows than jayz in comparison.

as nas, struggles just like jay to show skill near their past levels.
when, this is rap and you not supposed to be losing skill later in life.
while, jay and nas continue to dwindle in skill.

yet, both their stanbases continue to ignore that.
as both, are so venomously connected.
they can never exist without one another.
as, both groups needed and still need one another to survive and cling to.
whatever it is in their mind they cling to.
to make them feel whole, when they are stanning.




billy ocean, has constructed a pass giving system.
of, which you also subscribe to.
like most purist and stan driven guys who make remarks about music.

that is why your pallettes are limited.
coupled with, why you guys don't connect.
plus, don't have a larger draw out of guys.
whom, don't share, or have like minded views as you.
you have to take the time to become more versatile at this shyt.
plus, stop constructing pass systems, for your more valued artist in your collection.
that do not hold the creators of their music responsible.
for not having cultural responsibility.
while, then holding another group of equally offensible artist.
more guilty than the artist you have shielded from the same scrutiny.
when, both are just as guilty and also the timeline beginning point.

TO EXACTLY, WHY THINGS ARE THE EXACT WAY THEY ARE.

as nas, and later jayz, are exactly why rap sucks and will never recovered.

the audacity of nas stans to continue to try to cover that up.
will never happen as long as, the culture is protected by:
HOW ARE YOU NOT GIVING A PASS TO JAY THOUGH?

art barr

only people trolling anyone is nas stans.

the people giving the real, are stating the real.
then, the large populace of nas stans erroneously try to lead a fake revolt.
to refute facts, and establish the bullshyt to cover up the fake'n jax nas is on.
which, i guess makes them think they are good at covering up their bullshyt, as a result of all this rotten easter egg hunt nas stans try to send everyone off one.
only thing is,...

I AIN'T GOIN!!
KNOW DAT!


art barr

This doesn't make sense.

 

[The War Report]

@Walt What's your favorite Nas album?

 

[Yoda]

Hiphop is and was far from dead. Dude couldn't even articulate why he named it that. He just wanted to grab peoples attention.

Trying to position Life is Good like it was going to be some type of "Tell All" on Kelis and having an Album cover with wedding dress

Sometimes you dont need an explaination.
Sometimes the title does the explanation.
Hip Hop died to alot of people in 06 when d4l and souljja boy were reppresenting hip hop.
But, im sure laffy taffy was like, your shyt omg back then.

 

[mobbinfms]

Hiphop is and was far from dead. Dude couldn't even articulate why he named it that. He just wanted to grab peoples attention.

Trying to position Life is Good like it was going to be some type of "Tell All" on Kelis and having an Album cover with wedding dress

Did the album not match the original title?
And for Life is Good - did he not talk about his divorce and family issues? Should he have picked a stock photo for the cover? Is there a rule against having an album cover that captures what the album's about?

 

[Yoda]

Did the album not match the original title?
And for Life is Good - did he not talk about his divorce and family issues? Should he have picked a stock photo for the cover? Is there a rule against having an album cover that captures what the album's about?

that dude/bytch needs generic titles and rappers standing beside expensive cars for him to be excited about an album. he cant stand originality it seems

 

[Billy Ocean]

Did you see my other post on this? Billy's?

@Walt too smart to address legitimate arguments. He putting on a trolling clinic.

Brilliant execution of a troll post. Smart of you to ignore the dozens of legit questions/arguments thrown your way. You were waiting for the low hanging fruit. And you got it.
Then you hit us with a fictional essay full of imaginary Nas stans with imaginary techniques. I'm not gonna repeat my request for people to tag the Nas stans in question (I guess i am ) I know no one's gonna do it.
I gotta you for elite level trolling though. This is how it should be done. Less is more.


Did you catch that one cat talking about a revolution on Nas stans



Jay was referred to as the GOAT in this very thread







This doesn't make sense.

Yo, I swear my n!gga infy is one of the most underrated posters in this b!tch.

 

[blackslash]

Sometimes you dont need an explaination.
Sometimes the title does the explanation.
Hip Hop died to alot of people in 06 when d4l and souljja boy were reppresenting hip hop.
But, im sure laffy taffy was like, your shyt omg back then.

ummmm dats not what Nas said after Jeezy and T.i herbed that bytch ass nikka up

He was like "naw yall misunderstoof hhid is about the corporations not giving us our bread"

 

[Yoda]

ummmm dats not what Nas said after Jeezy and T.i herbed that bytch ass nikka up

He was like "naw yall misunderstoof hhid is about the corporations not giving us our bread"

i knew that tho.
And i understand that position.
But ALOT of real heads were feeling the title because music became awful and unbearable that very year he dropped it. sometimes a title can mean many things. but, you stan jay z and dont care about conversation if it isnt about money money and beyonce.

 

[blackslash]

i knew that tho.
And i understand that position.
But ALOT of real heads were feeling the title because music became awful and unbearable that very year he dropped it. sometimes a title can mean many things. but, you stan jay z and dont care about conversation if it isnt about money money and beyonce.

so basically nas fans were wrong and the idea that hip hop was dead because of the music was an idea nas was totally against?