Official War With Iran Thread

[Jesus H. Christ]

2003 all over again

 

[Pressure]

You're playing like you don't know the entire history of America. What difference have you seen in the parties when it comes to going to war? Remind me which party got us into damn near every war in the 20th century. Who was president when we pulled off the 1953 coup in Iran in the first place? When we went in to Korea? Who was president when we started sending troops to Vietnam? Who was president when we started escalating Vietnam? Who was the president who started bombing Cambodia and Laos as well?

And if you really think Vietnam era is irrelevant, then remind me again which Secretary of State was regularly looking for the advice of HENRY fukking KISSINGER during her term in office? I'll give you a little clue, it's the same SecState who was central in the invasion of Libya, pushed for the Afghan surge, and who thought that Obama and his robot killer planes committing acts of war terrorizing people in 17 different countries were too dovish because he wouldn't commit to large-scale arming and training of Syrian rebels.

So you don't think US foreign policy would be different under Hillary Clinton than Trump?

 

[Blackfyre]

@politico
NATO suspended its training mission in Iraq, the alliance said Saturday after a U.S. drone strike killed a top Iranian general in Baghdad https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-suspends-iraq-training-mission/ …

 

[DrBanneker]

Lavrov and the Russians have their say. Something tells me they aren't completely torn up since this pretty much guarantees them the top foreign ally in Syria now.

 

[DonKnock]

I dont believe I brought up any of those people.

@śïñe•qúå_nøn

Spoiler

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[88m3]

A much larger country with unlimited resources choosing to attack a diplomatic head of state in a smaller country that has been manipulated by that larger country for years and we want to discuss what is right and fair?

Sorry, we passed that a long time ago.

I am not saying America shouldn't protect its citizens. It is your inherent right. But let's not throw stones and hide hands.

That's one of the reasons things never get fixed. Big nations do the same shyt over and over, create a crisis then go, "well we are here now, no sense looking back"

It's bullshyt and it needs to end.

This isn't a diplomat so lets set the record straight

The Shadow Commander


Iran has played their role in this mess and that's their prerogative.

Iran is a local bully so the might is right(wrong) narrative of the US is a bit ironic.

Iran could've bided their time through Trump like other countries and they would've been fine but they chose one upmanship and antagonizing a fool.

By all accounts most of the bumpers that were in place to stop Trump are gone.


I'm all for peace but you may want to read up on what Iran has actually been doing before blaming one side.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

 

[FAH1223]

Lavrov and the Russians have their say. Something tells me they aren't completely torn up since this pretty much guarantees them the top foreign ally in Syria now.

Russians have been in Syria for 50 years. Nothing is changing there. They have had inroads with Baghdad.

 

[FAH1223]

There it is

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So you don't think US foreign policy would be different under Hillary Clinton than Trump?

It would be very different. I have NEVER said it wouldn't be. I didn't compare them at all. But if you want that...

Trump has an incoherent, confused foreign policy based primarily around his own ego and thin skin playing against his cowardice and general desire for a strong economy above all else, made that much more unpredictable due to his own ignorance and terrible decision making.

Clinton would have a relatively more coherent foreign policy based around her ideological hawkish, globalist instincts.

Because Trump is so unpredictable it's not really possible to say how likely it is that he will start wars, but his poor mental state makes anything possible. Clinton I'd say is somewhere between Obama and Bush in her eagerness to start wars. And since both of those characters started wars....

 

[Professor Emeritus]

There it is

shyt, I should have said that when it came to mind about 12 hours ago.

The combination of:

1. Iraqis pissed off that Americans carrying out acts of war on their own soil without authorization
2. American generals or even officers shook as fukk that they might be the next assassination target
3. Iranian-backed forces being able to operate with almost impunity in Iraq

Was making me feel that we were likely done there whether we liked it or not. Worse case scenario they might make any American government employee a persona non gratis in the region.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

All these cacs On Facebook sending their thoughts and prayers to our soldiers while voting for people like Trump are fukking disgusting pieces of shyt

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Mossad about to be busy busy

 

[jj23]

This isn't a diplomat so lets set the record straight

The Shadow Commander


Iran has played their role in this mess and that's their prerogative.

Iran is a local bully so the might is right(wrong) narrative of the US is a bit ironic.

Iran could've bided their time through Trump like other countries and they would've been fine but they chose one upmanship and antagonizing a fool.

By all accounts most of the bumpers that were in place to stop Trump are gone.


I'm all for peace but you may want to read up on what Iran has actually been doing before blaming one side.

I know all that. You still had no right to assassinate him. Period.

Why the fukk haven't you assassinated Russian targets after all the shyt they did in the US elections and around the world to undermine US influence.

This was the move of a bully pushing a button he felt safe to push, cause the little country won't fire back(we hope). Iran being a bully in the region doesn't change the utter stupidity of the US decision.

Lots of other nations antagonised Trump. North Korea got visits and flowers.

The US could have used the CIA to get at Iran the same way, they choose a public and unilateral assassination. You don't get to gloss over that.