Official War With Iran Thread

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I did not think he would do it, but he has. Trump is going to war to win the 2020 election. Let's not kid ourselves, most people did not know this Soleimani fella before he was blown apart. Now we're supposed to believe he was this bad man that was planning something big against the States? How come we never heard of this before, even from Faux news and the rest of the crazy right.

Also isn't the Intelligence service a "Deep State"? Aren't they corrupt and machiavellian? So now Trump - who has spent the last two years telling us not to trust U.S. Intel, wants to start WW3 on US Intel?

One thing I am glad for is that this time there won't be a coalition of the willing. Let's see how this goes with Trump going solo.
 

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There’s no winning in Iran unless the current gov is out but from what we’ve seen in Iraq a democracy will never work there as well. As a last resort I would expect Iran to destroy as much of Saudi Arabia as possible to fuk up the flow of oil which would send this country into chaos. That’s there only real play
This has been Iran’s Trump card(:troll:)
All iran has to do is hit Saudi/Qatar/UAE oil fields and terminals and oil will start shooting upwards of $150-$300 a barrel. Not only that they would also attack Gulf countries desalination plants and electrical grid plunging these countries into chaos to permanently put oil in the region offline.

All major shipping insurers will stop insuring any tanker for fear of having to pay HUGE sums of money if they are target in tanker wars.

All of sudden the world starts plunging into a global economic recession like 2008 all over again.

The Armaco attack was designed as a little taste and was purposely calculated to not cost long lasting economic damage to Saudi oil production.

But in war Iran will go for the jugular. So quite frankly Iran doesn’t need to win a SINGLE militarily battle to force the world to its economic knees.

The only reason Iran has not done this yet is because this option hurts China as well. No country will be spared from the effects of oil at $200-$300 a barrel.

Trump would get blamed for the global recession. At home he would be done. He would lose in November big time. You will see how much the country loves Trump when they are paying $12-15 a gallon to fill up their car.
 

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However I wouldn’t be surprised if Iran withdraw from the JCPOA and start developing nuclear weapons. It would embarrass Trump and the Republican Party. They would go down in history as the ones who antagonized Iran and forced it to get nuclear weapons.
 

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I did not think he would do it, but he has. Trump is going to war to win the 2020 election. Let's not kid ourselves, most people did not know this Soleimani fella before he was blown apart. Now we're supposed to believe he was this bad man that was planning something big against the States? How come we never heard of this before, even from Faux news and the rest of the crazy right.

Also isn't the Intelligence service a "Deep State"? Aren't they corrupt and machiavellian? So now Trump - who has spent the last two years telling us not to trust U.S. Intel, wants to start WW3 on US Intel?

One thing I am glad for is that this time there won't be a coalition of the willing. Let's see how this goes with Trump going solo.
I didn’t know who Soleimani was but wasn’t he the second most important person in Iran next to the president?

If so that’s a pretty big deal.
 

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Another lazy "both sides" meme labelled as "free thought" :mjlol:.


What Clinton and Obama did in office with the military is nothing close to what Bush 43 did or what Trump might do with Iran :mjlol:.
The expansion of executive powers under each administration brought us to where we are now.

Now that a mad man has the wheel congress wants to do its job:mjlol:

Bernie was in office when the illegal strikes first began, now he wants to write bills to stop them.:mjlol:
Dems already in here, your side did it worse.:mjlol:

is Tulsi still in the race? I hope she figures out how to ride this wave.
 

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The expansion of executive powers under each administration brought us to where we are now.

Now that a mad man has the wheel congress wants to do its job:mjlol:

Bernie was in office when the illegal strikes first began, now he wants to write bills to stop them.:mjlol:
Dems already in here, your side did it worse.:mjlol:

is Tulsi still in the race? I hope she figures out how to ride this wave.
Only wave she is riding is back to Hawaii breh....
 

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You’re right, but this seems like a turn of events she should be able to capitalize on... I think she’s the only candidate who voted against this kind of sh*t
Breh, nothing is bringing her back on the Dem side after that impeachment copout...
 

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Leftist have no successes outside of liberal strongholds. You guys in NYC, Nova,and DC are so far out of touch with reality at times.

Over the past 3 years I've watched you all go from saying progressives like Bernie are merely running on popular policy Americans want to now what appears to be a political group merely happy attempting to shift the Overton window.

Hillary tried to tell y'all...

That 3am phone call. We knew what Trump was about. Anyone believing he wasn't a hawk was in denial.

But here we are. :yeshrug:

When the fukk did I say anything incorrect about Trump?

Trump is a fool who will carry out military actions solely out of his own insecurity.

Hillary is a hawk.

Both those statements can be true at once. Since I never said, "Hillary is worse than Trump", I don't know who you're arguing with.
No offense, but I don't see the point of the side arguement right now. the past is the past. focus on now.
Well they had just killed a US citizen and injured 4 US soldiers and then tried attacking the embassy. The guy was evil I'm sure there are some good articles and books that cover his history. I don't feel sorry for him.

I don't think it will change the situation on the ground. I don't see Trump leveraging these attacks in any meaningful way in Iraq/Syria. Trump may have done it as a distraction but it won't last.
I think this: he killed him to boost relelection, not because he was bad (do you think trump actually read any of those pieces?) I hope things won't change, but the rules now have changed.
 
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When the fukk did I say anything incorrect about Trump?

Trump is a fool who will carry out military actions solely out of his own insecurity.

Hillary is a hawk.

Both those statements can be true at once. Since I never said, "Hillary is worse than Trump", I don't know who you're arguing with.
Merely pointing out the left's propensity to obfuscate some of the clear differences between Trump and Hillary during the lead up to 2016.
 

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And Dems don't have a candidate crushing him :mjcry: Let that sink in...
He's insane, might spark a war that cost millions of lives, and he's the favorite to win in 2020

That's more of an indictment of American voters than anything. :yeshrug:

At least 40% are already in the bag for Trump regardless of anything Dems do.
 
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