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Your right but at the end of day the tom is a good puppet /empty suit that will do what madsen want him to do and wont try to pull off any kind of Machiavelli type stunt to gain power over the company hell that why he hit shiv with the :mjpls: with making her the America ceo.

Tom being an empty suit doesn't mean Matsson is going to make for a great shadow-ceo. He's 'bullshyt' too.

Shiv would have chosen anyone over Kendall.
 
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tom isn't the better pick. he's just a lapdog. typical middle manager who brownoses his way up the corporate ladder without much substance.
Tom showed that he can competently do what the boss wants. Neither Kendall nor Shiv would’ve been that because of their delusions of grandeur and that is why Mattison wanted Tom. But this all started because the boys left Shiv out again. They should’ve told her they planned to fukk the deal. Once they broke that it was over. Kendall’s inability to manage his siblings was his downfall. Logan never had to do that because his brother didn’t give a shyt about empire building.
 

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Tom a coke head too tho lol
Tom a controlled coke head---:dead:

Kendall a full blown junkie and total fukk up----

Tom the prototype corporate snake, that's a calculated cut throat!

The coke just helps him be awake longer to snake! :mjgrin:
 

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Tom showed that he can competently do what the boss wants. Neither Kendall nor Shiv would’ve been that because of their delusions of grandeur and that is why Mattison wanted Tom. But this all started because the boys left Shiv out again. They should’ve told her they planned to fukk the deal. Once they broke that it was over. Kendall’s inability to manage his siblings was his downfall. Logan never had to do that because his brother didn’t give a shyt about empire building.

Exactly, Kendall is complicit in his downfall, he thought people would just fall in line because he proclaimed himself the chosen one
 

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Kendall got cocky and fumbled at the 1 yard line. Putting his feet on the desk, the bro talk with Stewy, before the board voted all he really had to say was “do it for dad” and then finally losing it with Shiv & Roman.

It’s a shame he seemed like he was improving this season to
 

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Kendall got cocky and fumbled at the 1 yard line. Putting his feet on the desk, the bro talk with Stewy, before the board voted all he really had to say was “do it for dad” and then finally losing it with Shiv & Roman.

It’s a shame he seemed like he was improving this season to

You on point with that ken should kept selling them on the point that he trying to keep the company in control of the family and he the best one to lead the effort to do that and not look like he was only trying to keep the company for himself I mean earlier in the season that what he did with rome :snoop:
 

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Shiv ain’t nowhere this skylar bytch man
They wildin
Even though I think Shiv could’ve played it better in a way to take Kendall down later on it was clear she was done with this shyt, and couldn’t risk her junkie of a brother fukking up her money anymore if she stayed. Might as well take that payday and have her husband do ceo while she becomes her mom
They don’t care about money. This was never about money. “We’re already rich.”
 

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I have seen this type of stuff happening in the Corp World... "Safe" dudes like Tom always make it to the top :stopitslime:

Matson's at the top.

Tom is just taking his orders.

Kendall would have been at the top, and he'd have a Tom (or someone like him) to execute HIS plan.

If somehow Shiv leveraged that last vote to secure the CEO spot (which is what I thought she was gonna do), she would NOT have taken orders from Matson.
She would have tried to be a "Co-Ceo" on the low, but really she'd try to run him like she did Tom.

Tom gets the position he wanted, CEO of ATN...but he has his marching orders and doesn't have the power to execute a vision of his own..without Swedish boys's say so.
 

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i fear for Kendalls mental health but he can easily start some cheap skate NFT company or something.

Or buy a bunch of shytty game companies like Embracer Group :hubie:

He could but he won't, he felt this was his birth right and a chance to be seen in the same light as his father, he has money but he will never recover from this
 

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His plan was to sell the company you see all his kids all complete fukk ups compared to Vito’s kids
What he should just hand them over the company even though they might besmirch his fukking name with their incompetence ?
He sold they got billlions what the fukk you want more? If they want something like him then maybe they should’ve been more competent instead of being fukkING LOSERS BUT HEY THEY GOT BILLIONS THEY CAN GO AND DO SOMETHING OUT OF IT RIGHT?

This Logan slander won’t be fukking tolerated

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When Sonny was the heir, Vito was actively coaching him up. We never saw that from Logan (not saying it didn’t happen). Maybe it did and they were so terrible that Logan gave up but from what we saw on the show, he treated his kids like kids the entire time. And that’s because he had this, “get it from the Mud” view on business that Vito never had. Vito built everything he had and never despised Sonny for inheriting it without a quarter of the sweat equity because he understood that’s what you did it all for.
 

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I thought this was before the meeting? When Rome was talking about leaving and calling in.

Yea that was odd. It was clear he was hurting
Roman started faltering once he saw Gerri in the building, and he wondered out loud why he couldn’t be CEO. He was also worried that his injuries weren’t severe enough (which I didn’t fully understand). I think Ken’s reaction was him establishing dominance over Roman again and/or giving Roman the spark he needed to follow through with backing Ken (a mix of physical pain and being uncomfortable that gives him a rush, and the attention that he’s always seeking).

They’ve hinted before that Roman was physically abused and he’s the only kid we’ve seen Logan actually hit, so it was also Ken adopting that part of Logan’s persona.
 

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This is a man that got someone killed and then when pressured, lied about it on the spot. Kendall is a fukking sociopath. He would do ANYTHING to stop a board vote to kick him out from happening.

Roman realized this too, I don’t get why only Shiv is getting the hate. I bet he switches his vote if he could.

Because these dudes hate women and try to dress it up as 'logic', if male characters acted exactly like Skylar, Louie or Shiv it would be called boss moves and lauded
 

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Question for Kenset. Yall trusting him to not flush your billions of dollars down the drain?
Just from the way he acted in that boardroom.........he is unfit to be CEO.
He's already cooking the numbers for w/e plan he has to "save" Waystar.
Damn near everything he has touched.........failed miserably.
So you either take the 2-3B from the sale or trust your junkie emotional brother to right the ship?
Keeping it a buck, Kendall was already on bullshyt anyway when him and Rome tried to tank the deal when Mattsson made the premium offer forcing their hand. He also did that cheap shyt of blaming Mattsson for Logan's death.........when it was the kid's actions that put him on that plane in the first place.
That’s been Ken the entire time though. Why go with it just cause you’re mad it’s not you and then pull out last second? Everyone talking about Ken being cocky, y’all act like he had weeks to sure this up. That meeting in the Caribbean was literally the night before the vote. He had 6 votes and his sister made the deciding 7. She told him she was in and backed out last minute when she “had time to think about it”? It’s the same argument we had about Rava. No matter how pure the reasoning, telling someone something that monumentally fukked up, so last second is brutal.

Only point about Ken y’all made that I agree with is that he should have never trusted them. But again, it’s not like he had a bunch of options and he spurned them cause Shiv was good.
 
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