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I’m seriously starting to question if he’s running for re-election. Like I don’t know anyone across the Democrat side that thinks that this is good politics.
A lot of them think this is all good idea. Pelosi, Warner, Manchin, etc.
 

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The obvious play would have been to defer until Feb 2024. Take it off the table completely and make it a campaign issue against republicans. Instead they’re just…giving up. It’s wild. I’d understand it if he was riding high and cruising towards election victories but he’s in a ditch right now. Bad. Surely you’d want something to improve your standing right. Nope…

I agree from the standpoint that it gives dems something to run on that’s popular and something that’s not delayed investment like the infrastructure but it’s not fair to say he’s given up. Biden hasn’t broken a single campaign promise related to student loans

Biden doesn't care

Same thing with sunsetting the unemployment benefits and eviction moratorium. He is a conservative.

:mjlol: you’re all over the place

Ending the unemployment and eviction thing was the right thing to do and those fund were repurposed to the infrastructure bill

none of these things were meant to be permanent and they were only suppose to provide relief during the pandemic shut down
 

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:mjlol: you’re all over the place

Ending the unemployment and eviction thing was the right thing to do and those fund were repurposed to the infrastructure bill

none of these things were meant to be permanent and they were only suppose to provide relief during the pandemic shut down
I keep forgetting the pandemic is over and everyone outside of the millionaires are doing fine. my bad.


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I keep forgetting the pandemic is over and everyone outside of the millionaires are doing fine. my bad.


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Full employment is measured at 4%. The current unemployment rate is 4.2%.


there’s no one out of work and needing enhanced unemployment benefits due to the pandemic.

The Covid relief bill gave 22 billion to rent and mortgage relief for renters and borrower. The halt had to stop and it’s not like people are being left stranded

like I said, you’re all over the place
 

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Full employment is measured at 4%. The current unemployment rate is 4.2%.


there’s no one out of work and needing enhanced unemployment benefits due to the pandemic.

The Covid relief bill gave 22 billion to rent and mortgage relief for renters and borrower. The halt had to stop and it’s not like people are being left stranded

like I said, you’re all over the place
Yeah breh, you don't care. You are a conservative.
 

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Yeah breh, you don't care. You are a conservative.
:dead: there’s nothing conservative about what I’m saying and there’s nothing progressive about keeping temporary pandemic relief that aren’t being used

I would’ve kept student loan pause tho because it’s an easy thing to run on in 22
 

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:dead: there’s nothing conservative about what I’m saying and there’s nothing progressive about keeping temporary pandemic relief that aren’t being used

I would’ve kept student loan pause tho because it’s an easy thing to run on in 22
It is conservative. We in a global pandemic and you are citing the topline metrics to show things are fine. You even said "hey the money was handed out for renters," while either dismissing or ignoring---and knowing you, you don't care for nuance like a conservative---that the money hasn't actually gone to renters because the law was written poorly.

You are from that Clinton Democrat tradition. This shyt is being handled pretty bad right now and I am sure you will be stunned that people don't vote next year and 2024 when a republican steps in, you will dismiss it as voters are stupid.
 

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It is conservative. We in a global pandemic and you are citing the topline metrics to show things are fine. You even said "hey the money was handed out for renters," while either dismissing or ignoring---and knowing you, you don't care for nuance like a conservative---that the money hasn't actually gone to renters because the law was written poorly.

You are from that Clinton Democrat tradition. This shyt is being handled pretty bad right now and I am sure you will be stunned that people don't vote next year and 2024 when a republican steps in, you will dismiss it as voters are stupid.
Or maybe the internet lets people complain more and hurts democrats more for being responsible?
 

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It is conservative. We in a global pandemic and you are citing the topline metrics to show things are fine. You even said "hey the money was handed out for renters," while either dismissing or ignoring---and knowing you, you don't care for nuance like a conservative---that the money hasn't actually gone to renters because the law was written poorly.

You are from that Clinton Democrat tradition. This shyt is being handled pretty bad right now and I am sure you will be stunned that people don't vote next year and 2024 when a republican steps in, you will dismiss it as voters are stupid.
Where’s the data that shows enhanced unemployment benefits are needed at now?

Dems are going to lose in 2022 because that’s just how elections work in America. It’s much easier to campaign against someone in office than it is to sell your record

I am as progressive as they come but I’m also realistic. Legislation requires time, compromise and luck. The federal government moves slow and payoff from is usually delayed
 

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Come on now, he changed the rules so that it’s easier than ever to get your loans forgiven if you are a government or non profit worker and even expanded the definition of non profit

he also cancelled loans of people that went to for profit colleges

he also cancelled loans for people who are disabled



No thread on Biden canceling student loans for First responders and government workers?


Hes cancelled 70 billion loans so far, that’s not included the 120 billion projected from the change in PSFL
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfr...ly-cancelled-70-billion-of-student-loans/amp/




Source?

I would argue everything I wrote in this post shows that student loans can be cancelled through executive action

what does that mean for kids currently in high school? We really need reform on this issue but people don’t want to look at it objectively.

kids in high school now want get the gift of 2 years with repayment or interest accruing.

NASFAA | Highly Redacted Student Loan Forgiveness Memo Becomes Public, Has Existed Since April
By Owen Daugherty, NASFAA Staff Reporter

The White House has reportedly had a long-awaited memo outlining its potential authority to forgive student loan debt for months, but has yet to publicly release the full memo despite calls from Democratic lawmakers to do so.

The existence of the heavily redacted memo was first reported by the New Yorker late last week, and though the memo doesn’t contain much information regarding President Joe Biden’s executive authority to unilaterally wipe out student loan debt for millions of borrowers without legislation from Congress, it does show that the White House has had the memo for more than six months.

A first draft of the memo, titled "The Secretary's Legal Authority for Broad-Based Debt Cancellation," has existed since April 5, just weeks after the memo was first requested and days after White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain announced the White House had asked the Department of Education (ED) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to review Biden’s legal authority to cancel student debt.

The memo consists of almost completely redacted pages, and internal emails obtained by the Debt Collective along with the memo show ED officials on April 3 saying ED would "likely be preparing an updated version of the memo prepared in February." White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki in February said for the first time that the administration was reviewing its legal authority to cancel student loan debt and that the White House had requested a memo on the matter.

Virtually the only portion of the memo left unredacted refers to the authority Education Secretary Miguel Cardona possesses that allows him to extend the interest-free payment pause on federal and federally-held student loans.

Democratic lawmakers have for weeks been pressuring the White House to release the memo. In a letter sent to Biden and Cardona last month, a group of Democratic House lawmakers — led by Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) — urged them to release the long-awaited memo.

The newfound existence of the memo and the knowledge that it has existed for months has renewed activists’ and progressive lawmakers’ calls for Biden to offer widespread student debt forgiveness for millions of borrowers “with the flick of a pen.”

Up to this point, however, both Biden and Cardona have said they are still reviewing the matter. With student loan payments set to resume in February following a nearly two-year pause on payments due to the coronavirus pandemic, those pushing for debt forgiveness see the months before the payment pause ends as the best — and last — chance to achieve student debt forgiveness.
 
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