Official Spider-Man: Far From Home Thread

[MartyMcFly]

You know what I appreciate most about these spiderman joints. They letting the character cook a bit before they come with the heavy losses. Too often people want the character to have deaths and heavy burdens bring the character down before we have even had a chance to know them. If they killed Ned one movie into it nobody would care because we haven't had a chance to bond with the character. It would be just checking something off a list instead of an actual emotional beat.

Let Spiderman come into his own and get some confidence before you start dumping on him. Hopefully we get a full slate of these films to fill out a complete story instead of just a trilogy.

The rumor is they want to do a Harry Potter like run, so 9 movies. 3 in high school, 3 in college, and 3 as a young adult. We Got This Covered reported it a few weeks ago and they're pretty good with their sources so I'm sure there's some truth to it. Especially after the success this movie just had this weekend

 

[nightwing2016]

Yeah, he brings up a lot of the issues I had with the movie and this series when I saw it. The action scenes were dope but the soul of Peter the thing that makes him spider-man is missing

 

[nightwing2016]

You know what I appreciate most about these spiderman joints. They letting the character cook a bit before they come with the heavy losses. Too often people want the character to have deaths and heavy burdens bring the character down before we have even had a chance to know them. If they killed Ned one movie into it nobody would care because we haven't had a chance to bond with the character. It would be just checking something off a list instead of an actual emotional beat.

Let Spiderman come into his own and get some confidence before you start dumping on him. Hopefully we get a full slate of these films to fill out a complete story instead of just a trilogy.

The problem with that lone of thinking is that spider-man is born from tragedy. Even in high school peter dealt with heavy stuff it is part of the burden of being spider-man the struggle of beating the responsibility of the role. The fact he gets knocked down and gets back up is core to his character. Into the spider verse explains this better than any movie outside of Sam rami’s first two. I don’t think it is that people want death they want to see actual consequences to his actions and how he responds because it would make him grow as a person and I can’t say this peter has grown at all over his three appearances.

It would of been cooler if flash and Ned had aged. Flash joins the military after the snap because he wanted to keep people safe. Ned joins oscorp and is manipulated by Norman and becomes hobgoblin leading to a direct confrontation with his best friend he really doesn’t know anymore. I thought it was a 6.5/7 out of 10 those end credits was dope but I have a feeling that they are going to resort to a sorry cop out and restore his identity like they did in the comics.

 

[The_Sheff]

The problem with that lone of thinking is that spider-man is born from tragedy. Even in high school peter dealt with heavy stuff it is part of the burden of being spider-man the struggle of beating the responsibility of the role. The fact he gets knocked down and gets back up is core to his character. Into the spider verse explains this better than any movie outside of Sam rami’s first two. I don’t think it is that people want death they want to see actual consequences to his actions and how he responds because it would make him grow as a person and I can’t say this peter has grown at all over his three appearances.

It would of been cooler if flash and Ned had aged. Flash joins the military after the snap because he wanted to keep people safe. Ned joins oscorp and is manipulated by Norman and becomes hobgoblin leading to a direct confrontation with his best friend he really doesn’t know anymore. I thought it was a 6.5/7 out of 10 those end credits was dope but I have a feeling that they are going to resort to a sorry cop out and restore his identity like they did in the comics.

When tragedy happens to a character you just met 10 minutes ago it doesn't resonate as well as if you actually grew with that character along with the hero. There is plenty of time for the heavy stuff. Let's get to know the characters first. The key to a good emotional beat is to get the audience to feel what the character is going through and that takes time and investment.

 

[nightwing2016]

Kevin Feige Promises a Peter Parker Story That’s “Never Been Done Before on Film” in Spider-Man: Far From Home Sequel

Spoiler: Spoilers included

The Spider-Man: Far From Home sequel will go places no Spider-Man movie has ever gone before, promises Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige. Major spoilers follow.

“I think so,” Feige told Fandango when asked if Peter Parker’s (Tom Holland) secret identity being exposed by The Daily Bugle’s J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons) in the Far From Home mid-credits scene will be a major storyline moving forward.

“Much like the end of Iron Man, saying, okay, the rules have changed. Which now means we're going to have to do something completely different next time.”

Unlike Marvel Studios’ first blockbuster, which ended with Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) publicly declaring “I am Iron Man,” Peter’s carefully guarded secret identity was blown through the efforts of fraudster Mysterio (Jake Gyllenhaal) and ex-Stark Industries employee William Ginter Riva (Peter Billingsley).

While similar storylines have played out in the comic books, Feige promises “everything’s different” for our hero moving forward.

“The how and the when and the specifics can change and evolve, but setting yourself up for something that has never been done before... at the end of Iron Man, it was a hero publicly outing himself so that in the next movies and all subsequent movies, we couldn't fall back on the secret identity trope which had been part of Iron Man's story for decades in the comics,” Feige said.

“And now people know Peter's identity. People now think he's a villain, Mysterio plays one last trick on him and succeeds... [so that] means everything's different. Where it goes, we'll see. But it's exciting that it once again sets us up for a Peter Parker story that has never been done before on film.”

The Far From Home mid-credits scene could be set up for Mac Gargan (Michael Mando) to menace Spider-Man as the Scorpion, but director Jon Watts has not yet detailed plans for a third film.

“I mean, I try to think about it one movie at a time,” Watts said in an earlier interview.

“We’re definitely telling the story of this kid growing up, and we end the movie putting him in a very unique spot that we really haven’t seen Spider-Man in before in the films. So, I don’t know. For me, I’ll wait until the next one to start to figure out how we’re going to get to where I want it to end.”

Closely guarded secret he has his mask off all the time. With the technology we have to do his identity should have been seen already on a security camera or drone.

 

[nightwing2016]

Just confused how this was meh and you have a fukking venom avi. This movie made venom look like the first couple of x men movies, or even DC trash.

Yo x-2 was a good x-men movie

 

[nightwing2016]

When tragedy happens to a character you just met 10 minutes ago it doesn't resonate as well as if you actually grew with that character along with the hero. There is plenty of time for the heavy stuff. Let's get to know the characters first.

How so? Does the loss of Bruce Wayne’s parents not resonate with you when you see it and creates the very character you grow with. You understand that characters motivation and thus empathize with his decisions. Peter is the same way with uncle Ben. You understand Peter walking away from Mary Jane at the end of the first spider-man movie and you feel the weight of being Spider-Man. I have yet to feel that weight with these Spider-Man movies. This Spider-Man haven’t earned anything and both movies have had more to do with Tony than peter.

 

[HHR]

Sinster Six? Secret Wars is probably next big crossover movie.

90 min Hall H panel at Comic-Con will likely shed some light on the plan

 

[The_Sheff]

How so? Does the loss of Bruce Wayne’s parents not resonate with you when you see it and creates the very character you grow with. You understand that characters motivation and thus empathize with his decisions. Peter is the same way with uncle Ben. You understand Peter walking away from Mary Jane at the end of the first spider-man movie and you feel the weight of being Spider-Man. I have yet to feel that weight with these Spider-Man movies. This Spider-Man haven’t earned anything and both movies have had more to do with Tony than peter.

Gwen Stacy dies over 100 issues into the comic, not issue 3. Bruce's parents dying shows a part of why Batman is the way he is but that actual event doesn't weigh on the audience because we don't care about his parents and were never given a reason to. If Peter walks away from MJ in movie 3 or 4 then it would mean more because we saw their relationship grow over time, you don't want anything bad to happen to Ned because we've seen him in 3 movies now. Earn the emotion, don't just tell me I'm supposed to care.

Lets boil this down to its simplest terms. Bruce Wayne's parents dying is a story beat, it gives part of his back story but it doesnt have an impact on the audience because we have no relationship with them. Joker killing Robin is an emotion beat as we have a significant relationship with Batman, Robin, and Joker at that point in time. Emotion beats are what i want Marvel to focus on, like when everyone assumed Pepper and Tony would end their stories in a wedding as that happy ending felt pretty well earned so when it ended in a funeral instead it was like wow, you really felt it.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Just finished watching, one word to describe this film, and that word is shallow.

Yes the film had great set pieces, but what separates a good movie(especially a comic book movie) is the characters. The characters don’t have interesting reasons for why they do things and why they’re the way they are.

Let’s take Michelle and Peter’s relationship, the film or even Homecoming showed why Michelle and Peter like each other. They just like each other because Michelle is MJ, and well Peter has to like MJ in a Spider-Man movie.

Now on to Ned and Peter, they’re best friends, but we don’t know how Ned feels about getting to spend some time with his best friend after coming back from the dead. Hell, we don’t know anything about Ned really. We don’t know why he’s nerdy, what’s his upbringing, why they’re such great friends.

All things considered, it was hard to watch a film that doesn’t care about their characters, when I just partaked in Spider-Man media with fleshed our characters(Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man PS4).

 

[Bigblackted4]

Enjoyed it, wasn’t amazing but a good date movie

 

[Lootpack]

The rumor is they want to do a Harry Potter like run, so 9 movies. 3 in high school, 3 in college, and 3 as a young adult. We Got This Covered reported it a few weeks ago and they're pretty good with their sources so I'm sure there's some truth to it. Especially after the success this movie just had this weekend

This is exactly how I want it too. A franchise that grows up with its audience. Harry Potter did that shyt perfectly.

Please God I hope that's true. Spidey gotta be the new face of the MCU if they end up going through with that.

 

[HipHopStan]

When Jake handed his card to pay for the comics, his face just says how much he regrets doing this. Like "Damn, I'm really about to be down $160 for buying a bunch of comics that I have no intention of ever reading. "

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I give it 8/10, I liked Homecoming slightly more. Mysterio was great and best part of the movie. The action was kinda meh which is my major gripe with the MCU Spiderman movies. The after credit scenes were great, it made it impossible not to leave satisfied.

 

[SCJoe]

Missed opportunity casting him as Mysterio, he would have been a fire Moon Knight.

When Jake handed his card to pay for the comics, his face just says how much he regrets doing this. Like "Damn, I'm really about to be down $160 for buying a bunch of comics that I have no intention of ever reading. "