Official Snowfall Season 6 Thread

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Watching the first episode again with a friend. At around 18 mins, Cissy puts a revolver on the dresser with the barrel pointed right at the viewer. They even zoom in on it a bit.

She used that revolver to kill Teddy :wow:

Side note… This ending got me feeling like when I finished Requiem for a Dream :mjcry:
 

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What a terrible finale

I’m fine with suspending disbelief in the name of being entertained, but Franklin being present at the murder of a public execution of a tortured former cia agent and walking around the whole episode like no one was after him was way too much lol :dead:


The actors really carried this whole series
 
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shyt he ain’t even offer a smaller amount. He said he wanted to respect moms wishes and not help him with money at all. Like he coulda at least had a trust or something set up to pay the man taxes on the crib so he could have somewhere to live. I dunno, I woulda helped him if I was Leon, no way in hell Franklin would’ve been a broke ass drunk. I woulda took a couple hundred grand and opened a legit business for him to run or something. I couldn’t leave the nikka down bad like that.
He a drunk and dont want help. We don't know what Leon tried to do in the years between time.
 

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Alpo - Dead, branded a snitch
Wayne Perry - Life in prison
Rayful Edmond - Life in prison
Harry O - Spent decades in prison, now released
Freeway Ricky - Life in prison, got sentenced commuted/released
Domencio - Dead
Supreme - Life in prison
Rich Porter - Dead
AZ - Made it out, appears to be okay
Nicky Barnes - Went to prison, lost it all, now dead
Frank Lucas - Went to prison, lost it all, now dead
Frank Matthews - Made it out, presumably with his money
Guy Fisher - Life in prison, released on medical pardon due to Covid in 2020
Big Meech - Sentenced to 30 years in prison, might get out in 2028
Southwest T - Sentenced to 30 years in prison, got a medical pardon due to Covid

But but its not realistic :heh:

Most of these cats either dead, in prison or came home to humble circumstances. Frank Lucas was stealing disability checks at the end.

Some guys who got good endings:

Oliver “Power” Grant
Don Pooh
Lance Un Rivera
Dee and Waah (Ruff Ryders)
Gusto Wells
Puerto Rican Jesus
Jay-Z
Haitian Jack

many others

some only got good endings because they snitched or were confidential informants but some just got tired of the street shyt transitioned. some also got only a few years in prison (5 to 10 years and came out still young and transitioned their money
 

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Ending was alright. But I feel like Franklin was too intelligent to end up like that.
Nah. Plenty of intelligent bums out here. IMO it was just poorly written. The nikka been unhinged all season they should've just stayed on that path and left that stupid time lapse alone.
 

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Cheap ending to one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.

You don’t go from cunning and cerebral as Franklin was to a dysfunctional person suffering from substance abuse. Dude did not drink, smoke, do drugs, or even cheat on his woman. That shyt was rushed and contrived.

As another poster said, better writing would have been to give a prelude to his alcoholism in prior seasons.

I wasn’t expecting him to ride off into sunset, because that typically isn’t the ending to those type of characters but it’s kind of an anticlimactic wrap up to his storyline.

Also Veronique would have never been able to get away with all that money on a business account without Franklin coming in in person and both parties signing off on it and then it would have had to been cleared by the bank which takes days sometimes weeks.

Bank ain’t just cutting you a check for 800K they putting all kinds holds on that money and you got to get signatures and copies of people’s IDs and everything. Again that’s rushed cheap writing.

Cissy’s character and how she started moving made no sense either. I understand why she killed Teddy, but it was the antithesis of what her character claimed to be about. A more fitting ending for her would have been her turning Fed witness if she felt so guilty about her son and Teddy poisoning the community.

Great show but they rushed that ending and those characters could have been fleshed out much more. Kinda amateur hour with that shyt to an otherwise phenomenally written show.

Tell me you never were born or was just a little child during the crack epidemic. This is the most realistic result of the typical drug dealer or kingpin. Not the cliche Scarface ending that's overly celebrated. Or the fantasy of getting away with it. The majority of real-life drug dealers have this same demise. I know a lot of d-boys who was doing it big back in the day that today are either smoked out, winos, or homeless reminiscing the good old days. IT'S A SUPPOSED TO BE ANTICLIMATIC. That's LIFE.

Not to mention this was Franklin's destiny is an example of generational trauma. Most people tend to in a way turn out no different or no better than their parents. Franklin was destined to become Alton and it was hinted through both Cissy and Jerome that Alton in how he became a homeless wino was sharing the same type of decline which prompted Cissy to leave him the same way as Vernique.

Speaking of Vernique, she's the one that SET UP THOSE ACCOUNTS. The legal business was pretty much what SHE BUILT. So, she has access to it all. They had joint accounts which you can blame Franklin in allowing her that. There's a scene either earlier this season or last season where Franklin GAVE HER complete access. And she's a professional bank scammer. That's her nature to be no different from her mother (again the generational trait).

Cissy's actions maybe controversial but made sense too if you paid attention to her own decline. Cissy went from willing to do anything for her son to being dead to her son. Episode 9 was her final hail mary to save Franklin's soul, but he was too far gone at that point. The irony is that Franklin said what he was going to do back in the season 5 finale of torturing Teddy, and it was Vernique that was pleading not to go there, but Cissy stood quietly. Only for those roles reverse with Vernique just as desperate for that money and Cissy after giving up after the loss of Jerome was done with it all. The ONLY thing that mattered to her was getting rid of Teddy because regardless of if Franklin got his money or not, Teddy was the demon that poisoned her family. She just hated what Franklin has become which is no different from Teddy. So, her actions were out of spite of her own son who chose the money over his own mother.

None of it was lazy writing. You can criticize and nitpick on things that was either rushed like the conclusion of Louie and Oso, or wasted characters like Parissa, but this episode itself was purposely bookend to everything from season 1 and if you were really paying attention, they used Franklin as an allegory of a drug addict. Just like a D-boy would give a person a free hit as a sample, the bartender gave Franklin his first shot for free. His meeting with Leon that next day, he was already behaving crack-ish trying to do unrealistic negotiations for the money. Then Franklin was pretty much giving away his properties similar to how a crackhead would sell away everything they got. Even learning that Peaches only have 12K in the same is a call back to season 1 episode 1 of how much Franklin sold his first brick ever to Claudia. Which ALSO echoed to the fact that Jerome WARNED HIM that brick no matter how much Franklin makes from it is worth the trouble. All of that foreshadowing tie-in to that conclusion. Even Franklin when he does transform into what his father was, he repeated the same lines to Leon that he told to Melody in that very first episode of being "free from all of it". So DON'T tell me because you either never paid attention to detail or it's wished for it to happened, doesn't mean it's lazy writing.
 

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You guys all are calling him an alcoholic which I agree, but by his teeth and mannerisms, ain’t it insulated he started smoking the rock as well?

No.


Individuals who suffer from alcohol abuse have higher plaque levels and an increased risk of periodontal disease, tooth decay, tooth loss, and mouth sores.
 

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Some guys who got good endings:

Oliver “Power” Grant
Don Pooh
Lance Un Rivera
Dee and Waah (Ruff Ryders)
Gusto Wells
Puerto Rican Jesus
Jay-Z
Haitian Jack

many others

some only got good endings because they snitched or were confidential informants but some just got tired of the street shyt transitioned. some also got only a few years in prison (5 to 10 years and came out still young and transitioned their money
Puerto Rican Jesus did prison time and died after being released
Haitian Jack did prison time and got deported
 

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A lot of people are not taking into account what making and losing $73m can do to a person. Never mind what $73m today means, $73m in 1986 is worth about $200m today. He lost generational wealth, he lost power and control. He had been manic and spiraling all season.

Even Leon’s $3m is worth about $8m today.

Before Franklin eventually became an alcoholic, Franklin virtual the entire series became what is call Compulsive Gambling Disease. And it's not just the stereotypical Vegas casino gambling where you hit the jackpot, but you cannot stop, and you begin to lose until you sell your entire saving. It's with anything when you are addicted to chasing money. And Franklin was addicted to that chase. He wanted to have that high of getting immediate large sums of cash.

This is the biggest difference between Leon and Franklin. Both Franklin and Leon had the same idea but approached it differently. Franklin was the first after the end of season 3 of saying he'll sell dope but use it to clean up the community, which he was lying to himself because he was already addicted to making more money. Leon, on the other hand was guilty of what the community has become and him being complicit. But realized that if he cannot take control of the hood, someone like Deon would and make it worse. It was never the money for Leon. Like Leon told Franklin that it's blood money and if he could get rid of it, he would, but he understood the situation.

So right before Franklin came to him asking for that 3 million, Leon was talking to his people about despite taking the L and losing the plug, that they'll adjust and move on. Had Franklin had the mind set as Leon had, NONE of this would have happened in the end. Franklin should have in his mind at all times that the 73M can be taken by the government at any time. It was never his money to begin with. It was an illusion that money was his when Teddy was playing him since season 2 when he convinced to set up those bank accounts. However, Vernique set up his legal money accounts too from the real estate business. Franklin LOST IT when Teddy did that, but he never listened to reason, especially with Vernique because they HAD money through the properties that was way more than the 3 million, he ended up begging Leon for. Even when Franklin out of spite and impulsivity robbed Jerome's and Louie's stash house, he took MILLIONS of dollars from them and MILLIONS of dollars' worth of dope to easily flip into legal money and get out the GAME. But it didn't matter.

So even had he got the 37M or even the whole 73M, Franklin wasn't going to stop. He was in self-destructive mode and anyone around him will receive the negative consequence from it.
 

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Some of these guys absolutely stupid as hell man. They clearly was in the south looking for her. That might actually be back in Louisiana by her family.

They weren't in the south. You saw snow-capped mountains in the horizon. She's definitely not in Cali though. The last place she'll run is Louisana because that's the first place the DEA would go.
 

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That's a negative. He was a teenager that had access to elite resources and information, which was a huge benefit. With that being said, he still had a day to day operation that he ran which he was 100 percent accountable for and built a multi million dollar empire worth 10s of millions. Put any other teenager or young person in a similar situation and 9 out of 10 would fail. It's all hollywood story telling, but at the end of the day that street shyt(especially back then) wasn't as easy you think.

Franklin had ambition. But that's pretty much it. Franklin came into that game stupid and naive. Louis was the one who hooked Franklin up with Claudia to sell the first brick. Franklin that next night got robbed and had to learn the hard way on what it'll take to get his money back, which foreshadowed how ruthless he'll become due to being an eyewitness of the sick nature of the business just to get his money back in the beginning.
 
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