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He has a lot of songs with people that he hasn't cleared for them to release it for fear of fan backlash. One of the Songs was with Gunna. He has a few songs recorded with Kendrick. Supposedly he hasn't made money from the sales of the KD's and Magic. He's only broken even.
 

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He has a lot of songs with people that he hasn't cleared for them to release it for fear of fan backlash. One of the Songs was with Gunna. He has a few songs recorded with Kendrick. Supposedly he hasn't made money from the sales of the KD's and Magic. He's only broken even.

That’s crazy must be a lot of costs that go into making and promoting/marketing an album independently but it’s hard to believe he ain’t in profit, either way Nas team should make a collective effort to at least crack 100k first week sales, he can do it with the right run up of features, a lot of people don’t know he’s even dropped in the last two years he needs to get attention of the casual fans again.

Things like not putting out the Wave Gods videos doesn’t help him either, this is the most buzz Rocky has had in years due to his relationship with Rihanna and it’s a great verse from him one of his best on a great song on a great album also featuring Premier, the longer he takes to release the video the longer the buzz dwindles, so one must ask what is his team doing? We know Nas got a nonchalant attitude someone should be on his case to drop that video ASAP.
 

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That’s crazy must be a lot of costs that go into making and promoting/marketing an album independently but it’s hard to believe he ain’t in profit, either way Nas team should make a collective effort to at least crack 100k first week sales, he can do it with the right run up of features, a lot of people don’t know he’s even dropped in the last two years he needs to get attention of the casual fans again.

Things like not putting out the Wave Gods videos doesn’t help him either, this is the most buzz Rocky has had in years due to his relationship with Rihanna and it’s a great verse from him one of his best on a great song on a great album also featuring Premier, the longer he takes to release the video the longer the buzz dwindles, so one must ask what is his team doing? We know Nas got a nonchalant attitude someone should be on his case to drop that video ASAP.
Bro a few months ago I mentioned my displeasure with Mass Appeal and they tore my head off for saying that around here lol
 

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That’s crazy must be a lot of costs that go into making and promoting/marketing an album independently but it’s hard to believe he ain’t in profit, either way Nas team should make a collective effort to at least crack 100k first week sales, he can do it with the right run up of features, a lot of people don’t know he’s even dropped in the last two years he needs to get attention of the casual fans again.

Things like not putting out the Wave Gods videos doesn’t help him either, this is the most buzz Rocky has had in years due to his relationship with Rihanna and it’s a great verse from him one of his best on a great song on a great album also featuring Premier, the longer he takes to release the video the longer the buzz dwindles, so one must ask what is his team doing? We know Nas got a nonchalant attitude someone should be on his case to drop that video ASAP.

I get what you're saying, but if Nas moved as strategic as some of y'all wanted we probably wouldn't have even got all these albums, especially Magic. Seems like breh just having fun putting music out.
 

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The "Nas fans aren't buying the album" narravative is consistent with the runners of these Nas fan accounts (illmaticesco and godson_nas on instagram).

The people behind these pages know some info (whatever Nas' team feels comfortable sharing) but not much. Last year I asked if they knew when Nas would drop again and the person said "he's not dropping until yall support KD1 more etc..". Literally, the next day was when the KD2 info/announcement leaked. Lol

Nas and his team are not focused on sales. His last 3 albums are critically acclaimed. I'm sure that matters more to Nas (a multi millionaire) than another gold plaque at this point in his career.

This right here. Some of this inside info is :duck:

Nas not moving like someone overly concerned with sales just based on the single choices and promo level. He not doing a promo blitz. He not paying streaming farms to pump up his numbers. He not spending big marketing dollars. With KD2 if he was heavily concerned with sales he's pushing YKTV, EPMD with the Em stimulus and Nobody with the Lauryn Hill factor as the singles with videos.

Magic didn't even offer physical copies or a digital download option from his own website. But we supposed to believe he thinks these albums should be going gold? In 2022?
 
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I never cared about sales or grammys
neither reflect quality, and in reality both are just time capsules of the moment

also I honestly don't need any more music videos from Nas, I loved his videos from the 90's (still have the DVD with them all), but now they're mostly just him rapping with different backdrops, I watch them once when they drop but never feel the need to go back and see them again, I'd rather just listen to the song

the exception would be if he took a concept track and put a ton of money into it, like Queen's Wolf would've been cool if done properly, but then if it's high-budget it doesn't really make sense for him because it won't push sales that much

I did like the video for War Against Love, because it was simple, yet visual and different, and was probably very cheap to make... videos like that make sense


Rare was an incredible video. Very creative with an excellent message.

Before that you had Spicy, which had Nas experimenting a bit with special effects.


And I personally thought the Nasir short film was underrated.
 

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Something that has always bothered me...fellow gamers, tell me I'm not tripping...but does the piano in the beginning of In Too Deep when Nature is talking (right when he says "What you supposed to do when your mans aint your mans?") sound real similar to the Max Payne theme?





In Too Deep came out two years before Max Payne. I'm not crazy, right?
 

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I be bugged out listening to the pod sometimes.

“ Like word Nas actually watched the Simpsons” :ohhh:
 

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He has a lot of songs with people that he hasn't cleared for them to release it for fear of fan backlash. One of the Songs was with Gunna. He has a few songs recorded with Kendrick. Supposedly he hasn't made money from the sales of the KD's and Magic. He's only broken even.

I mean...if that's true why has he put so little effort into marketing the albums outside of twitter/IG? Why has the physical album rollouts been so janky? You can count the amount of interviews done for these three albums on one hand probably. Nothing about the way they're moving suggests they're trying to sell records, which is why I dismissed that guy's tweets about fans having to prove loyalty by streaming lol.

You want to sell an album? Record your album and have your videos ready to go from jump (similar to Rare, Ultra Black). Have singles planned out, specifically the first one. Preferably either with a big rapper (Drake, Cole, etc) or someone like SZA, Summer Walker, Ella Mai. The hardcore fans aren't streaming so you know how to resolve that? Give younger people a reason to stream a song, and hope they stick around for the rest of the project. Benny The Butcher literally just did this with the Cole record...made it the first song on the album to, to further juke streams.

Throw other some rappers on there that your fans fukk with. Griselda, Schoolboy Q, etc. That makes way more sense than...Gunna? No hate on Gunna but that just seems like a "who is hot" thing that doesn't really fit. Do a bunch of interviews. Drink Champs again. 1 on 1 with Charlamange, who has basically been begging for an interview for years and championing Nas nonstop. Angie Martinez, LA Leakers...basically a full blown press run, some solo some with Hit Boy. Sell your shyt...

I'm not saying you sell 100k first week if you do all this. I think those days are over personally. But you can drop an album with more longevity on the charts by working with more relevant artists, from stars to the more underground artists people want to hear him with.
 

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I mean...if that's true why has he put so little effort into marketing the albums outside of twitter/IG? Why has the physical album rollouts been so janky? You can count the amount of interviews done for these three albums on one hand probably. Nothing about the way they're moving suggests they're trying to sell records, which is why I dismissed that guy's tweets about fans having to prove loyalty by streaming lol.

You want to sell an album? Record your album and have your videos ready to go from jump (similar to Rare, Ultra Black). Have singles planned out, specifically the first one. Preferably either with a big rapper (Drake, Cole, etc) or someone like SZA, Summer Walker, Ella Mai. The hardcore fans aren't streaming so you know how to resolve that? Give younger people a reason to stream a song, and hope they stick around for the rest of the project. Benny The Butcher literally just did this with the Cole record...made it the first song on the album to, to further juke streams.

Throw other some rappers on there that your fans fukk with. Griselda, Schoolboy Q, etc. That makes way more sense than...Gunna? No hate on Gunna but that just seems like a "who is hot" thing that doesn't really fit. Do a bunch of interviews. Drink Champs again. 1 on 1 with Charlamange, who has basically been begging for an interview for years and championing Nas nonstop. Angie Martinez, LA Leakers...basically a full blown press run, some solo some with Hit Boy. Sell your shyt...

I'm not saying you sell 100k first week if you do all this. I think those days are over personally. But you can drop an album with more longevity on the charts by working with more relevant artists, from stars to the more underground artists people want to hear him with.
Yea truthfully I think Nas can get to 50K just being him, but I think that first single is key. Nas X Drake with video would be massive with a dope clean video. Nas X Kendrick, Nas X Cole. If he does one of those features as the first single and then follow it up with a street single it would kill. His album will carry the rest.
 
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