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Piff Perkins said:
One of the many great things about Illmatic - and something that really separates it from IWW - is that every track feels different, not just production wise but even lyrically. All types of emotions are run through, from fear to regrets to introspective thinking etc. It's all a snapshot of living in Queens/NY.

IWW feels very similar. Lyrically he goes overboard with the mafioso stuff, leaving little room for anything else outside of Black Girl Lost and If I Ruled The World. Yea there are gems and lifestyle mantras thrown in there, similar to Illmatic, but it just doesn't feel like you're getting a glimpse of what Nas is best at: observing his environment and stepping outside of himself to describe the visuals and emotion of life.

I think a better exec producer would have recognized this and made changes to the album. Instead of just nonstop mafioso shyt, a more diverse track list/focus would have worked wonders. It's still a dope album obviously.
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Non stop mafioso shyt? This is an opinion held by some. I quite frankly don't concur. Maybe my copy is different.
Dissecting the album song by song no way supports that argument.
Nas is a HARDCORE rapper. Let's not forget that just because he can rhyme really good
 
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Piff Perkins said:
One of the many great things about Illmatic - and something that really separates it from IWW - is that every track feels different, not just production wise but even lyrically. All types of emotions are run through, from fear to regrets to introspective thinking etc. It's all a snapshot of living in Queens/NY.

IWW feels very similar. Lyrically he goes overboard with the mafioso stuff, leaving little room for anything else outside of Black Girl Lost and If I Ruled The World. Yea there are gems and lifestyle mantras thrown in there, similar to Illmatic, but it just doesn't feel like you're getting a glimpse of what Nas is best at: observing his environment and stepping outside of himself to describe the visuals and emotion of life.

I think a better exec producer would have recognized this and made changes to the album. Instead of just nonstop mafioso shyt, a more diverse track list/focus would have worked wonders. It's still a dope album obviously.
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I dont get this one bit..

Nas is a great creative writer. Great STORY TELLER. yall hail him as a storyteller, but try to limit what type of story he can tell? Ive never heard anyone critique one rap artist so hard in my life. He was 23 years old. He gave you his life on Illmatic. Big, Rae, Ghost..they all very creative writers. I dont hear no mafioso stuff like yall talkin or that narrative thats was passed down by magazines that year it dropped by a bunch of corny writers.
 
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Piff Perkins said:
One of the many great things about Illmatic - and something that really separates it from IWW - is that every track feels different, not just production wise but even lyrically. All types of emotions are run through, from fear to regrets to introspective thinking etc. It's all a snapshot of living in Queens/NY.

IWW feels very similar. Lyrically he goes overboard with the mafioso stuff, leaving little room for anything else outside of Black Girl Lost and If I Ruled The World. Yea there are gems and lifestyle mantras thrown in there, similar to Illmatic, but it just doesn't feel like you're getting a glimpse of what Nas is best at: observing his environment and stepping outside of himself to describe the visuals and emotion of life.

I think a better exec producer would have recognized this and made changes to the album. Instead of just nonstop mafioso shyt, a more diverse track list/focus would have worked wonders. It's still a dope album obviously.
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IWW wasn't nonstop mafioso. Did u even listen to the album fam? Lol. Matter fact contrary to belief the shyt has less mafioso than most people say it does. When it hear people repeat this shyt I question if they actually listened to the shyt. Album is actually more versatile than Illmatic thematically.
 
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spliz said:
IWW wasn't nonstop mafioso. Did u even listen to the album fam? Lol. Matter fact contrary to belief the shyt has less mafioso than most people say it does. When it hear people repeat this shyt I question if they actually listened to the shyt. Album is actually more versatile than Illmatic thematically.
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Im literaly looking at IWW tracklist trying to see what songs got mafioso themes..
 
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Piff Perkins said:
One of the many great things about Illmatic - and something that really separates it from IWW - is that every track feels different, not just production wise but even lyrically. All types of emotions are run through, from fear to regrets to introspective thinking etc. It's all a snapshot of living in Queens/NY.

IWW feels very similar. Lyrically he goes overboard with the mafioso stuff, leaving little room for anything else outside of Black Girl Lost and If I Ruled The World. Yea there are gems and lifestyle mantras thrown in there, similar to Illmatic, but it just doesn't feel like you're getting a glimpse of what Nas is best at: observing his environment and stepping outside of himself to describe the visuals and emotion of life.

I think a better exec producer would have recognized this and made changes to the album. Instead of just nonstop mafioso shyt, a more diverse track list/focus would have worked wonders. It's still a dope album obviously.
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L. Deezy said:
I dont get this one bit..

Nas is a great creative writer. Great STORY TELLER. yall hail him as a storyteller, but try to limit what type of story he can tell? Ive never heard anyone critique one rap artist so hard in my life. He was 23 years old. He gave you his life on Illmatic. Big, Rae, Ghost..they all very creative writers. I dont hear no mafioso stuff like yall talkin or that narrative thats was passed down by magazines that year it dropped by a bunch of corny writers.
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Dude who wrote that? Is just regurgitating garbage complaints from 90's journalists who wanted another illmatic.
 
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spliz said:
IWW wasn't nonstop mafioso. Did u even listen to the album fam? Lol. Matter fact contrary to belief the shyt has less mafioso than most people say it does. When it hear people repeat this shyt I question if they actually listened to the shyt. Album is actually more versatile than Illmatic thematically.
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This shows you how much people just repeat things like perrots and don't actually listen or follow artists carreer.

top 5 of Nas constant critics

Nas was a sellout on iww, he went comercial, he was too much escobar. >>> well, 70% of iww got grimier beats than illmatic, it just got 4 "commercial" songs at best

Nas don't know how to peak the best beats >>> well I can do 4 cd's of nas best songs, in terms of production alone, few mc's would mesure up. and he peaks beats that suit his style of rap too. That's maybe not the type of production that bang in the car or the club, but best believe it will be listened 20 years from now. it's no coincidence that rd, blueprint, ba, american gangster and 4:44 are jay's most aclaimed records, it's because the procdution is more soulfoul than the volumes bp 2 & 3, kingdom come or magna carter who got low replay value

Nas don't know how to makes hits >>> people confuse cliub songs with hit. made you look, i can, just a moment, nas is like, if i ruled the word, hate me now... were hits

Nas is a bad business man >>> oh boy he proved everyone wrong this last decade

Nas would be better with tracks from preemo, large pro, pete rock q tip ect >>> Well except maybe preemo and q tip, the others fell off. They were on a mega album one time, that album was mediocre; pete rock did an album with smif & wessun, it was supbar. I don't mind doing a track or two with them but let's face it, they don't got it like that no more
 
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