Official Mitt Romney VP announcement thread 8/11 9am

jfkennedy

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No, you have it backwards sir. This is going to alienate independents and even some Republicans when the average citizen learns all the details of the Ryan plan.

Regarding that "getting the base excited" stuff, that's always a bunch of overvalued bullshyt. Pretty much every Republican is going to vote for Romney just like pretty much every Democrat voted for Kerry. The base of each party is only about 30% of the electorate each, respectively.

The Ryan plan is radical as fukk...waaaay outside of the American mainstream. He wants to eliminate capital gains tax, the alternative minimum tax, and the estate tax, cut the corporate tax rate, privatize social security and and privatize medicare. :merchant: We'll see how "center-right" this country is when privatizing Medicare and social security goes on the table. The Ryan plan is so far to the right even some Republicans ran away from it when they campaigned.

Hey, I won't argue this point anymore. Energizing a base isn't that overvalued, not every voter is deadset on who they want to vote for. You can assume that, but it just isn't true, and someone like Ryan can either kill it or make it for Romney. Republicans love the dude though, he has a 46% favorability rating with Repubs which is pretty high. It'll get them excited, esp. the younger voters since Ryan is like 20 years younger than Romney.

And I won't disagree with your second paragraph. That's why I'm interested to see what happens when the facts are laid out on the table and the publics becomes better informed as to Ryan's crazy ass ideas.

It's a bold pick. But I don't see the slam dunk for Obama that you all see.
 

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Another thing about Ryan is he doesnt seem confrontational at all. Usually the VP is the attack dog. This dude is
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People are also forgetting that Ryan is a closet atheist (Randian) parading as a Catholic. I don't know how this pick will energize the evangelical base. This pick seems to be more about securing more campaign financing from big business, Koch and Adelson than anything else.
 

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I could understand if he won a statewide election, but this dude is a congressman. He'll no doubt carry his district, but what about the rest of the state :merchant:

They got to be doin the banana in the tailpipe, no way this real.

The VP debates would be a massacre.

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Based Biden is gonna :eat: very well
 

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No, you have it backwards sir. This is going to alienate independents and even some Republicans when the average citizen learns all the details of the Ryan plan.

Regarding that "getting the base excited" stuff, that's always a bunch of overvalued bullshyt. Pretty much every Republican is going to vote for Romney just like pretty much every Democrat voted for Kerry. The base of each party is only about 30% of the electorate each, respectively.

The Ryan plan is radical as fukk...waaaay outside of the American mainstream. He wants to eliminate capital gains tax, the alternative minimum tax, and the estate tax, cut the corporate tax rate, privatize social security and and privatize medicare. :merchant: We'll see how "center-right" this country is when privatizing Medicare and social security goes on the table. The Ryan plan is so far to the right even some Republicans ran away from it when they campaigned.

And that is pretty much what the Obama campaign is going to do with the news of Paul Ryan being the vice presidential nominee. Instead of just hearing about how Mitt Romney wants to kill cancer patients, we are now going to be flooded with commercials about how Ryan wants to end Medicare and Social Security and kill off old people. It is going to be the typical fear mongering that Democrats have always used to scare voters and drum up votes.

What is sad is that our country is heading off the fiscal cliff and the biggest cause are entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security. When you have serious individuals like Ryan who come forth and are willing to address these issues and offer concrete solutions they usually end up getting demonized and villified. In contrast, our current president would rather bury his head in the sand and completely ignore these serious issues. Obama has shown absolutely no leadership on reforming entitlements and now he is going to mercilessly attack the people that do. And people wonder why our country is in trouble.

I just hope that the American people can see through the fear mongering and lies coming from the Democrats.
 

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And that is pretty much what the Obama campaign is going to do with the news of Paul Ryan being the vice presidential nominee. Instead of just hearing about how Mitt Romney wants to kill cancer patients, we are now going to be flooded with commercials about how Ryan wants to end Medicare and Social Security and kill off old people. It is going to be the typical fear mongering that Democrats have always used to scare voters and drum up votes.

What is sad is that our country is heading off the fiscal cliff and the biggest cause are entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security. When you have serious individuals like Ryan who come forth and are willing to address these issues and offer concrete solutions they usually end up getting demonized and villified. In contrast, our current president would rather bury his head in the sand and completely ignore these serious issues. Obama has shown absolutely no leadership on reforming entitlements and now he is going to mercilessly attack the people that do. And people wonder why our country is in trouble.

I just hope that the American people can see through the fear mongering and lies coming from the Democrats.

No, the main cause is our ridiculous "defense" spending, which Ryan doesn't want to lay a hand on. This is despite that fact that the public supports cuts to defense spending.

Obama's team would do well to point out how hypocritical Paul is on this.
 

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People are also forgetting that Ryan is a closet atheist (Randian) parading as a Catholic. I don't know how this pick will energize the evangelical base. This pick seems to be more about securing more campaign financing from big business, Koch and Adelson than anything else.

This cac uses religion like a super mario power up. He used to stan Ayn Rand all his life until he found out she was an atheist a couple of years ago.:pachaha: He a less convincing republican Obama but I beat these cacs wont call him a Muslim anti-White Christian :pachaha:
 
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