Official Mitt Romney VP announcement thread 8/11 9am

[Robbie3000]

lol nah nah nah you're missing what I'm saying

from yours and my perspective, we know dude's policies are crazy

but politics isn't about policy....we know this

We can show every swing voter how his policy negatively affects them. But if he makes biden back track once in a debate those folks are gonna be like "hercules hercules!"

Then Obama is going to be forced to pick up the fight for biden later on down the line. That's all its going to come down to. Biden is gonna get tossed to the way side and it'll be a 2v1 debate.

And that's where the dems campaign will have trouble. If it were hillary at the vp position, this shyt would be wrapped up. She would be diddy bopping on them and we'd be talking about the next 4yrs.

But do y'all really trust Biden to run the point right now??? Y'all really think Biden is gonna hold his own and silence Ryan's plan??? Rly??? Biden??? Whens the last time we've seen Biden hold his own in a public setting??? If I'm not mistaken, he botched the budget fiasco and Obama had to come in and pick shyt up for him. Biden is a weak link.



I don't think he'd be a Newt level debater. But I do think against Biden he'll "come off as" such. So yeah you're right.

And also, Ryan is a buffer. Mitt probably won't have to seriously entertain a tax question because the public is now trying to "learn" about Ryan. Its a whole new election.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mitt just stops talking period lol

Don't sleep on Biden. He is a very effective campaigner and has the ability to connect with people. Besides, do you really think these hillbillies are looking for a substantive debate on policy?

 

[Loose]

believe it or not deficits is actually good for our country.

 

[Jello Biafra]

As I already said, I didn't propose it as a centerpiece of the campaign. It's just one of many angles to throw at the opposition. And I mostly said it because it would be humorous and ironic to turn the tables on Repubs on religion. It obviously wouldn't swing the election. Obama's already got the election in the bag, but you are too ignorant to see that yet.

I'm not an armchair political strategist extraordinaire, but I have basic observational political strategy common sense, such as being able to predict that the Bain attacks would resonate and knowing that this Romney energizing the base (which is about 30% of the electorate, mostly in red states, and will already vote for any Republican anyway) stuff you're talking is bullshyt.



This statement is once again proving your lack of knowledge on what buttons are pushed by ads and your overestimation of the intelligence of the electorate. If you put up a quote of Ryan saying he bases his whole political philosophy around Rand and then put up a quote of Rand shytting on Christianity, some voters may be like " So Ryan doesn't love Jesus?"

And once again, I don't think that will swing any states to blue. It's not that serious. You seem to have an axe to grind or something. This is a non-issue. It's not like I said they should adopt a whole Ayn Rand strategy and it's going win OH. Part of campaigning is just throwing a bunch of bullshyt at the wall and hoping some of it sticks with some voters.



You said that later. First you said no one would care. They did.. Look at the polls on Romney's business record and his approval ratings and his standing against Obama pre-Bain attacks and post. They were a smashing success. Also it's pretty silly to say nothing matters now because it all connects. Romney will now have to adopt a different, probably more desperate strategy now because he got killed on Bain. At first his plan was to run on his business record. Now he's done a 180 and said his business record should be off the table.

Where in anything I wrote were you able to glean that I have an ax to grind? I was just pointing out the stupidity of using Ayn Rand as a way to show Ryan hates Jesus.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Where in anything I wrote were you able to glean that I have an ax to grind? I was just pointing out the stupidity of using Ayn Rand as a way to show Ryan hates Jesus.

And like I said, an ad showing Ryan's idol worship of Ayn Rand juxtaposed against her condemnations of Christianity could be part of a tangential strategem to turn a traditional Republican strength into a weakness that puts them on the defensive, and only a small prong of a larger strategy of carpet-bombing with negative ads on a variety of fronts, not a central campaign strategy. Throwing a bunch of bullshyt at the wall and hoping some of it sticks with some voters is part of a good campaign. There's really nothing more that needs to be said than that. This whole exchange was a huge waste of time. Find some other shyt to beat your contrarian drum about, bruh.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Don't sleep on Biden. He is a very effective campaigner and has the ability to connect with people. Besides, do you really think these hillbillies are looking for a substantive debate on policy?

lol fukk no of course they aren't

but I also think they're craving reasons to NOT vote democratic

I don't trust swing states/blue dogs

lol I just did a quick search and found this about Paul Ryan's wife
Paul Ryan's wife no stranger to Washington power circles | Reuters

Her family has strong Democratic connections, and largely identify with the Blue Dog Coalition, a group of Democratic lawmakers known for being fiscally conservative.

Her uncle, David Boren, served as a Democratic governor of Oklahoma and later as senator from the state. Boren's son, Dan Boren, is a member of House of Representatives and as a Blue Dog Democrat, has often voted with Republicans.

After college she worked as a legislative aide to former Oklahoma congressman Bill Brewster, who was a co-founder of the Blue Dog Coalition.

While in that job she worked on transportation and healthcare issues and attended George Washington Law School at night, earning her degree in 1998.

the stars are aligning....folks shouldn't see this as a cake walk

 

[Slystallion]

ok i was a little rusty on the numbers but nonetheless while defense spending is quite high its a necessary function of government and if i were in charge i would definitely look into cutting certain areas of it without weakening our strategic goals...but my philosophy is to privatize most of the other government programs or at least have a private option to curb some of the costs and because i think its a superior more effecient way of providing benefit to the people. By doing that i would want to eliminate the majority of taxes for everyone...but i don't have access or the time to sit here and map it out...if i were to do that i would write a book on it and make money off of it at least...hmm thats not a bad idea actually

 

[KingpinOG]

And like I said, an ad showing Ryan's idol worship of Ayn Rand juxtaposed against her condemnations of Christianity could be part of a tangential strategem to turn a traditional Republican strength into a weakness that puts them on the defensive, and only a small prong of a larger strategy of carpet-bombing with negative ads on a variety of fronts, not a central campaign strategy. Throwing a bunch of bullshyt at the wall and hoping some of it sticks with some voters is part of a good campaign. There's really nothing more that needs to be said than that. This whole exchange was a huge waste of time. Find some other shyt to beat your contrarian drum about, bruh.

Nobody gives a fukk about Ayn Rand or her atheism you fukking idiot.

 

[jfkennedy]

I think tru_mac is right when he says Ryan will shine when he debates against Biden. But then again, Ryan is the same person who said, "I love the idea of Barack Obama. I love the fact that we elected an African-American man as our president. I think that is a really cool thing."

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Ryan is about to overshadow Mitt for the rest of the election. He's obviously not a moron like Palin, but he is someone who's going to overshadow the top guy on the ticket and be very polarizing like Palin.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Nobody gives a fukk about Ayn Rand or her atheism you fukking idiot.

lol...your blue ball virgin rage been in 5th gear the last few days, Skippy.

 

[Slystallion]

Ryan is about to overshadow Mitt for the rest of the election. He's obviously not a moron like Palin, but he is someone who's going to overshadow the top guy on the ticket and be very polarizing like Palin.

hes a way more solid candidate than Romney

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I think tru_mac is right when he says Ryan will shine when he debates against Biden. But then again, Ryan is the same person who said, "I love the idea of Barack Obama. I love the fact that we elected an African-American man as our president. I think that is a really cool thing."

lol for some reason, coming from him it seems a lil less threatening than if it were coming from old ass mitt romney

hes a way more solid candidate than Romney

So we pretty much can already etch in the 2016 race

Ryan & Rubio

vs

Hillary & .......

 

[KingpinOG]

hes a way more solid candidate than Romney

Ryan is surprising me in his speeches. He has alot more charisma than I anticipated. With his strong knowledge of the issues I think he may one day be president.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Ryan is surprising me in his speeches. He has alot more charisma than I anticipated. With his strong knowledge of the issues I think he may one day be president.

lol@this clown who spent the entire campaign season in 08 clit-riding that retard Sarah Palin now praising Ryan because he's so intelligent.

 

[Jello Biafra]

And like I said, an ad showing Ryan's idol worship of Ayn Rand juxtaposed against her condemnations of Christianity could be part of a tangential strategem to turn a traditional Republican strength into a weakness that puts them on the defensive, and only a small prong of a larger strategy of carpet-bombing with negative ads on a variety of fronts, not a central campaign strategy. Throwing a bunch of bullshyt at the wall and hoping some of it sticks with some voters is part of a good campaign. There's really nothing more that needs to be said than that. This whole exchange was a huge waste of time. Find some other shyt to beat your contrarian drum about, bruh.

There was nothing contrarian about my reply to your idea of blanketing conservative swing states with "Ayn Rand hates Jesus + Paul Ryan likes Ayn Rand = Paul Ryan hates Jesus" ads. I just found the entire notion of introducing Ayn Rand into this election to be utterly ridiculous.
So there was no drum beating being done on my part.