Official Michael Jordan 'The Last Dance' Doc Thread (NO SPOILERS)

[broller]

adam silver really goin full on

 

[Renkz]

This looks like a video game cover

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

In all fairness, the league was at a weak point. Expansion era and crack era put a major damper on the late 70s/80s entries of talent with guys like Michael Ray Richardson, Melvin Tarpley, Len Bias, not living up to expectations due to drugs. The Bulls were on the upswing and it was the perfect marketing ploy. It wasn't just MJ, the league was promoting Grant Hill, Shaq, Penny, and Kobe like crazy in the 90s. In the 80s, it was about teams, the 90s was about stars and none shined brighter than Jordan

that is all true, however, MJ and his likeness brought the league to a totally different place. You have to protect your investment. Image mattered a little more back then.

notice the Stories of MJ bring a a$$hole didn’t consistently come out untill after his second retirement, where it really didn’t matter any longer.

just look at how everybody is embracing the Mamba mentality and appreciating Kobe and his “don’t give a fukk attitude”

but In his prime, he was constantly voted the most hated athlete. They called him a ball hog, egotistical a$$hole who chased Shaq out of town. A bootleg Jordan etc. now everybody is admiring how much he learned from MJ(and a lot of this was before he died) yet called him a poor man’s MJ while he was playing

people tend to laugh and reflect on a$$hole shyt only after it’s said and done, during his prime though I believe MJs habits and personality would have been taken more negative during his playing time especially in the 90s when image mattered a little more. For this Stern had to continue selling MJ as a god

and I don’t think MJ was prepared for that kind of pressure early on

 

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[Truefan31]

It would be close and both eras have massive adv.

The old NBA had three-four year college kids to the pros. None of this one and done bullshyt where nikkas like Trae don't really understand how to win or play this game at that high of a level.

The new NBA got internationals. Them mfers changed the game. They come in at 19 more advanced mentally than those 3-4 kids of the old NBA. They just don't have the athletic ability as those then or the US kids now.

Steph wouldn't be Steph in the 90s. His skillset even in college was freakish offensively. He clearly had NBA training shooting with range. On top of that, Steph is one of the most trained players ever. He is trained as a machine. No one had that access to training like that in 1990. No one. Not even Jordan nor was he close. Steph has like five trainers. MJ was seen as magical having just one. Steph is also great movement-wise, stamina wise, hustle wise, and BBIQ wise. Green is like a QB. Klay would be impossible to guard in the old NBA. Their ball movement was magical that no team has come close to, to this day.

I don't like comparing teams from other eras because let's be clear, that 73 win GS team would sweep every NBA team from 1980-2014. That team made no sense for its era, it would have killed any era squad. No one could compete. They had the best tech. The best trainers. Coaches with the best schemes. They ran that M2M/zone split to perfection. Their screens were insane. They could all put the ball on the deck. Everyone had size. Everyone would be a nightmare for every era. It would be impossible to compete. LeBron needed luck and Green's suspension to beat them.

It would be close. Being able to have most of the NBA know how to play Basketball is a BIG DEAL which is the issue in the NBA today. That said, the talent pool is massive. Because of guys like Jordan, the training from kids starting at 5 years old for a sport is massive. MJ didn't start playing till he was 14. Bo Jackson mentioned there will never be another him or Deion because the talent pool on all sports is much too great due to advanced training.

What did you expect? This game is a game where players are making nine figures over their careers. nikkas like Kent Bazemore. The training to be in this league was going to be massive due to the money in the NBA. The money before the NBA, etc.

The game is just a lot more advanced today. That doesn't mean it better but the shyt kids coming in can do in 2020 is a lot more than kids could in 1990. It's not even close.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

And it must be stated again. Thank god social media 24/7 media outlets and blogs did not exist during that time. It allowed greatness and stories to be told, people to remain mysterious etc.

too much fukkery was going on during the 80s and 90s anyway. A lot of that shyt needed to stay Inhouse

 

[NYC Rebel]

And it must be stated again. Thank god social media 24/7 media outlets and blogs did not exist during that time. It allowed greatness and stories to be told, people to remain mysterious etc.

too much fukkery was going on during the 80s and 90s anyway. A lot of that shyt needed to stay Inhouse

I remember when Jim Kelly got inducted into the Pro Football HOF and he remarked “thank GOD we didn’t have social media when we played!”

 

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That security guard Mike is gambling with looks like the White Bob from Martin...

 

[Big Boss]

And it must be stated again. Thank god social media 24/7 media outlets and blogs did not exist during that time. It allowed greatness and stories to be told, people to remain mysterious etc.

too much fukkery was going on during the 80s and 90s anyway. A lot of that shyt needed to stay Inhouse

yep like Rodman going to Vegas

 

[Black Lightning]

 

[GoldenGlove]

Documentary is a genre of film making, not journalism. A journalist might make a documentary but they are not inherent elements of the genre.

Specific to this you are talking about content controlled by the subject. There isn’t a piece of journalism associated with the project outside of interviewing them for perspective.

I stand corrected

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

MJ sure loves that golf and cigars, God dayumn

Those Phoenix Suns jerseys

 

[The_Third_Man]

Mike wearing Chicago 1 at the garden was amazing moment they should've interviewed Tinker though

when Mike was talking about how tired he was of the the press questions, I was wondering what he would've done if he had to deal with what superstars nowadays are dealing with every day

 

[AJtheOne]

 

[VegetasHairline]