Isiah Thomas declined to be in new Celtics doc after 'Last Dance' depiction: 'I wasn't gonna get fooled twice'

[Buckeye Fever]

He lost all credibility when he said Bron at his worst is better than Jordan at his best.

So, that means he thinks Bron vs Mavs in the 2011 Finals is better than any of Jordan in his 6 Finals

 

[CHICAGO]

He lost all credibility when he said Bron at his worst is better than Jordan at his best.

So, that means he thinks Bron vs Mavs in the 2011 Finals is better than any of Jordan in his 6 Finals

NAH 2007 FINALS



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[Buckeye Fever]

NAH 2007 FINALS



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Damn, I had options and didn't even know it

 

[Ziggiy]

It’s not being portrayed as a villain, it’s being insulted which happened during the Last Dance.

I think Isaiah took exception to the whole “we didn’t shake hands” debacle when he explained thats not how it was done back then Jordan kind of threw him under the bus. I think that was a situation where they both were “right” in a sense.

Isaiah later on made a great point that when they beat the Celtics, they didn’t shake hands either, Isaiah had to go approach Kevin Mchale as the Celtics were leaving the court to get a handshake and some words of encouragement.

Jordan’s point was that everytime the Pistons beat the Bulls HE and the team would shake hands so he wanted that same courtesy when the tables were reversed. Jordan wanted that moment as he felt he’d earned it.


At the end of the day I think the issues between Jordan and Isaiah are complex due to both being highly competitive. Jordan came to Isaiah’s city and pretty much took over and that couldn’t have sat well. Jordan never forgave Isaiah for allegedly leading a freeze out of him at the 85 All Star game when Jordan was a rookie. Plus all the Eastern Conference battles they had, “The Jordan Rules”, and the fact that the Pistons DID whoop his ass (physically). Problem is isaiah mostly left it on the court and always gave Jordan props publicly while Jordan took it all to heart. I think leaving Isaiah off the dream team should’ve made them “even” but we all know Jordan takes things personally that other athletes are able to get over.

 

[premier58]

@Ziggiy that freeze out shyt was a myth. Also,.MJ and fans, always exclude the part about Jordan shytting on the Pistons before Game 4. He said they were bad for basketbal.and undeserving champions!! Who cares that you shook hands if thats how he truly felt? Could you blame the Pistons for saying fukk them, after that? If Jordan has a problem with the physicality of the Pistons, then why play for Chuck Daly?! He is the HC that helped formulate the plan. Why allow Rodman on the team? Also, Salley and Edwards? Why is Isiah the only one condemned for the Bad Boys behavior? It is straight hypocrisy.

 

[Copy Ninja]

This dude's lack of awareness is Shaq level.

You played on a team called the 'Bad Boys'. Routinely mugged the shyt out of teams when you played. Other great players in your era didn't want you on the Dream Team, not because you're not a great player but because you're an a$$hole. Even your own fukking coach understood why they didn't want you on that team.

And then act surprised when you're portrayed as a villain.

 

[Ziggiy]

@Ziggiy that freeze out shyt was a myth. Also,.MJ and fans, always exclude the part about Jordan shytting on the Pistons before Game 4. He said they were bad for basketbal.and undeserving champions!! Who cares that you shook hands if thats how he truly felt? Could you blame the Pistons for saying fukk them, after that? If Jordan has a problem with the physicality of the Pistons, then why play for Chuck Daly?! He is the HC that helped formulate the plan. Why allow Rodman on the team? Also, Salley and Edwards? Why is Isiah the only one condemned for the Bad Boys behavior? It is straight hypocrisy.

I agree. Isaiah gets the blame because he was the leader and top alpha. Its not fair but it is what it is.

And Jordan absolutely said that bullshyt about the Pistons being undeserving champions. I think he gets a pass on that because he was, and this has been openly admitted by everyone involved, the Pistons were whopping his ass. And I know they whopped everybody’s ass, but there ere actual Jordan Rules that were designed specifically to hurt him.

I don’t really blame either Jordan or Isaiah for the bad feelings. I DO think that Jordan needs to let it the fukk go because it seems Isaiah let it go when he retired. He always gave Jordan props. They don’t have to be friends but there’s no need to be publicly feuding.

 

[premier58]

This dude's lack of awareness is Shaq level.

You played on a team called the 'Bad Boys'. Routinely mugged the shyt out of teams when you played. Other great players in your era didn't want you on the Dream Team, not because you're not a great player but because you're an a$$hole. Even your own fukking coach understood why they didn't want you on that team.

And then act surprised when you're portrayed as a villain.

Isiah was an a$$hole? The same Isiah that as NBA president, got the agents cut reduced from 25-30 percent, to 4-5 percent? a$$hole? Ever heard of John Stockton and Karl Malone? Two of the dirtiest players to.ever live? Lets not forget about Malone being a statuory rapist. Larry.Bird? The guy who openly neglected his daughter?? Thats not an a$$hole? Scottie Pippen? The piece of shyt who refused to give condolences to MJ after his father was killed? The guy who mistreated Jerry Krause because he signed a shytty contract that he was warned not to sign? Isiah is such an a$$hole, that Stockton chose him to induct him into the Hall.of Fame?

 

[Copy Ninja]

Isiah was an a$$hole? The same Isiah that as NBA president, got the agents cut reduced from 25-30 percent, to 4-5 percent? a$$hole? Ever heard of John Stockton and Karl Malone? Two of the dirtiest players to.ever live? Lets not forget about Malone being a statuory rapist. Larry.Bird? The guy who openly neglected his daughter?? Thats not an a$$hole? Scottie Pippen? The piece of shyt who refused to give condolences to MJ after his father was killed? The guy who mistreated Jerry Krause because he signed a shytty contract that he was warned not to sign? Isiah is such an a$$hole, that Stockton chose him to induct him into the Hall.of Fame?

this is peak 'whataboutism'

respectfully

 

[premier58]

this is peak 'whataboutism'

respectfully

Its the truth, though. What issues would a Mullin, Ewing, Drexler, Robinson, Laettner, Barkley orr Stockton have with Isiah? What did he do to them? Isiah gave back to not only the impoverished youth, he also gave back to the young NBA.

 

[Trojan 24]

Is anyone even watching that trash?

 

[Art Barr]

He’s upset because Jordan didn’t just man up and say it to his face.

More like mj lies...
Walk off and not shake hands after getting swept breh.
Only shake hands when front running breh.

Art Barr

 

[premier58]

More like mj lies...
Walk off and not shake hands after getting swept breh.
Only shake hands when front running breh.

Art Barr

So its ok for MJ to throw rocks snd hide hands? Dismissing their whole run while up 3-0, isnt front running?

 

[Art Barr]

So its ok for MJ to throw rocks snd hide hands? Dismissing their whole run while up 3-0, isnt front running?

Cap.
nikka this is deflection.

Zeke orchestrated an entire coup and walk out.
Then here you come with this deflection of the timeline of events.

The fukk you mean Mike hid his hands.
nikkaz if zeke never shake hands. How the fukk are you talembout hiding hands.

Tha fukk!?!?!!


Art Barr

 

[premier58]

Cap.
nikka this is deflection.

Zeke orchestrated an entire coup and walk out.
Then here you come with this deflection of the timeline of events.

The fukk you mean Mike hid his hands.
nikkaz if zeke never shake hands. How the fukk are you talembout hiding hands.

Tha fukk!?!?!!


Art Barr

Yeah ignore MJ talking shyt about them when it was obvious the series was over. Then expecting that same team to pay homage to you, after the fact. Weak ass, two faced behavior. Their undeserving champs and bad for basketball, according to MJ, yet you want their approval. Which one is it?