Official Michael Jordan 'The Last Dance' Doc Thread (NO SPOILERS)
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It’s actually Jalen and Jacoby podcast that go over each episode not the 30 for 30 one.
Because we have stat trackers that tracks how many miles you run on the court as well as lateral steps and mobility steps and they are even able to look and break down old film. The average player in today's NBA is doing a lot more running, stop and go, dealing with movement than the previous eras. That's also visible via the eye test.
Saying dudes don't even play defense is insanity. Teams no longer even draft the most complete players anymore because the value of defense, as well as shooting, is more of a premium in today's NBA. I don't even know how you can say dudes don't even defend anymore, that's a causal statement. What you think, every team is out there Trae Youngin' it up?
Because they wouldn't survive is why. It's too much on their joints. A lot more lateral movements. A lot more horizontal movements. The game has become a lot less vertical and a lot more horizontal. That puts a lot of pressure on joints, fitness levels, and nutrition. That's why those lumbering bigs can't play in the modern NBA outside of spurts. The game has become a lot more team-based and a lot less individual-based.
This places a premium on athleticism like length, lateral quickness, hand size, agility, mobility, natural handles, and less on height, size, toughness although all of these are needed in the NBA. This wouldn't impact just Jordan and Pippen, all NBA players, both past and present are impacted by these changes.
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Republicans also buy sneakers is the, all'z white people not bad statement of the century. The minute you say not allz' white people not bad, you are INSTANTLY called a c00n who works against our Black interest but you are making excuses for him because he made you feel good breh?
i disagree, shooting more 3s and nixing midrange, and other facets of the game isn't an evolution to me. But to each his own. Stay safe out there
You don't understand what you are watching but if you want to simplify the game to this level, I guess you never will get it.
okay, we both agree the advancement of technology is the biggest change from then till now.
So let me ask you this, If the technology today was available 30 years ago would your opinion change on what era is better in your opinion.
Also, if the technology from yesteryear, VHS, Thick ass playbooks (not e books), projectors, etc... were available today would the NBA suffer?
Finally if all things being equal technology wise between 1990 and 2020 which era would you feel is better?
IMO the athletic thing is vastly overstated. The 2 time MVP steph curry (Who people considered the best in the league) his game is predicated on skill way more than athletic ability.
I do understand the NBA midrange game is gone. Analytics have convinced people to shoot 3s regardless of who shoots them because " 3 is more than 2"/
If you say I don't understand what I'm watching I assume by that stretch, Charles Barkley, Shaq, Kenny Smith, Paul Pierce, etc.. who's opinions line up with mine on today's NBA also doesn't understand either.
To be fair, Magic started out by saying, "At the time, I wasn't fukking with Isiah like that" in the most PC way possible.
It was good insight tho, cause Magic was basically saying that IT had beef with multiple people and they weren't trying to be on eggshells for months. I still think it's fukked up tho. Another thing that Magic said was that MJ was on the fence about playing when he called him, so while MJ never mentioned Thomas shouldn't be on the team.
The fact that he "was on the fence" means that Thorn knew if they added Thomas, it would would have made it easier for Mike to be like, I'm straight on playing.
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I was great at ball. Small, but I had bounce. I was looking to go DII bench or DIII with playing time but opted for a better university for education. Best coach I ever had told me this. All you need is 4 seconds and 5 dribbles to either make a play or realize there's nothing there and pass it out. Then had us watch Michael Jordan highlights for a week. That's why I hate this dribble dribble dribble iso step back era.
Even Isiah said it recently, Mike would go left take two dribbles and find his spot then pull up. It was a beautiful thing to watch the mid range game
It's not gone, it's still here and at a high level, it's just the NBA doesn't want players who aren't elite mid-range shooters to take them anymore because the value per point is small unless you are excellent at it. You still have greats like CP3, Leonard, and Durant who shoot a lot more mid-rangers than 3s. If Jordan still played, he would still take them in volume. Those guys are exceptional at it. The NBA got rid of the average player shooting them anymore. The PPP was terrible and it always has been. When the NBA implemented the zone defense, it essentially killed the mid-range jumper from the average NBA player's repertoire.I do understand the NBA midrange game is gone. Analytics have convinced people to shoot 3s regardless of who shoots them because " 3 is more than 2"/
If you say I don't understand what I'm watching I assume by that stretch, Charles Barkley, Shaq, Kenny Smith, Paul Pierce, etc.. who's opinions line up with mine on today's NBA also doesn't understand either.
Chuck don't understand the NBA today, he's say so many times as well. He just understands common things like, this is a good team, this is a bad team. This team is lacking too much to win, this team isn't. Chuck don't understand the new NBA. It doesn't make sense to him. Zeke is one of the few oldheads who understands today's game and he's not a coach but then again, Zeke was a coach so that's maybe why he gets it.
Kenny don't get it. PP is one of those old heads who just does him but he's so good at it and so good at Basketball mentally that it's easy for him but he doesn't really understand it either. Guys like him are dinosaurs but they understand the game so well, they understand basketball. If you understand Basketball, any era is gonna be easy to you. I was talking to VC at one of the games, VC really didn't get this new era but he just knew Basketball. Watching him handle nikkas like Trae, Cam, and Bruno who really don't understand shyt was interesting.
The game is still the game. The difference is, the new NBA is different. It's about value over all. The old NBA is all about pace and momentum. That's why teams like Dallas who aren't the most talented can dominate ORTG at an ATG level but no one thinks of them with the Warriors because there is more to it but I get it.
If the NBA is going lean-agile, the old NBA was SDLC.