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problem is when he signed it, it wasn't bad. Salaries just grew considerably during the 7 years of his deal. He took the guaranteed bread. :yeshrug:


Wonder if the Suns will be looked at as the new Blazers.Took Ayton when they could've drafted Doncic.They'd have company, tho.


3-4 other teams passed on him, to
 

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I didn't know MJ was such a big Iverson fan


Michael Jordan agreed to 'The Last Dance' documentary, thanks to LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Adam Silver


The coronavirus pandemic has put a halt to the NBA season, but the entire basketball world will still be on their couches and tuned in on Sunday night. Not for a playoff game, unfortunately, but instead the beginning of a 10-part documentary about Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls titled "The Last Dance."

Ahead of the 1997-98 season, which everyone expected to be Jordan's last, producers at the NBA came up with an ambitious plan to document the entire thing. Now, more than 20 years later, the project has finally come to fruition, and early reviews indicate it will be a must-watch for any basketball fan.

But why now? How did this documentary finally come about? There were obviously all sorts of different factors that played a part, but it turns out that three key figures in NBA history were instrumental in getting Jordan's approval to go ahead with the film, according to a terrific story from Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.

Adam Silver
Before serving as NBA commissioner, Silver used to work in the league offices as the head of NBA Entertainment back in the 1990s, and was one of the main forces in getting the project off the ground. First, he was able to convince Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf, and head coach Phil Jackson of the historical importance of documenting that season. That was the easy part, however.

In order to get Jordan to acquiesce, Silver made a promise that the face of the league would have total control over the film after it was shot.


"There was no negotiation whatsoever," Silver explained. "All I said was, 'I'm sure there'll maybe be a tough negotiation at some point, but we don't have to have it now.' Because first and foremost, we have to capture the footage."

Then he offered Jordan the one thing he couldn't turn down: control.

"Our agreement will be that neither one of us can use this footage without the other's permission," Silver told Jordan. "It will be kept -- I mean literally it was physical film -- as a separate part of our Secaucus [New Jersey] library. Our producers won't have access to it. It will only be used with your permission."

That was a risky bet on Silver's part, because it meant the tapes might have sat locked away in a vault in Secaucus forever. But he correctly understood that getting the footage was the most important part of the league's job. There would be nothing to figure out on the backend if you didn't capture everything in the first place.

Looking back, that kind of foresight and negotiation ability makes it easy to see how Silver rose through the ranks in the league to become the commissioner.

LeBron James
M.J. or LeBron? Those two will forever be linked in the debate about the NBA's greatest player, so it's fitting that LeBron figured into the making of this documentary. As it turns out, Jordan gave the OK to use the footage on the same day that LeBron and the Cleveland Cavaliers were celebrating their 2016 championship with a parade through the streets of Cleveland.

"The universe has such a funny sense of humor," said Mike Tollin, the producer of The Last Dance. "Because when I woke up, I put on ESPN while I'm getting dressed, and there's LeBron [James] and the Cavaliers parading through the streets of Cleveland with the trophy that they'd just won."

Was LeBron getting one ring closer to matching his mythical six titles a driving force in Jordan wanting to create something that would truly capture his greatness? Or was this just a weird coincidence? Probably the latter, but as competitive as Jordan still is, you can't rule out the former as a possibility. Either way it's an interesting anecdote to the story.

Allen Iverson
Aside from Jordan and LeBron, there's perhaps been no more culturally significant player in NBA history than Allen Iverson. So, again, it's fitting that he factors into this story as well.

Tollin previously made a documentary about the misunderstood star titled simply, "Iverson." It's a well done project, and one Jordan loved so much that it made him cry. The fact that Tollin was involved in "Iverson" sealed the deal.

The last page of the presentation was a look at the documentaries, movies and shows Tollin and his company, Mandalay Sports Media, had done.

"So there's Kareem [Abdul-Jabbar], there's Hank Aaron, there's 'Varsity Blues,' there's 'Coach Carter' and so forth," Tollin said. "He's actually looking at them all, and in the bottom right corner is 'Iverson.' He goes, 'You did that?'"

Tollin didn't answer. Jordan repeated the question.

Tollin wondered if this was going to work for or against him. Like the timing with the Cavaliers' championship parade that morning, it was impossible to know.

Tollin mumbled a cautious, "Yes."

Jordan took his glasses off, looked up and said, "I watched that thing three times. Made me cry. Love that little guy."

Then he walked around the desk, extended his hand and said, "Let's do it."

Even well after his retirement, Iverson is still impacting the league and the culture surrounding basketball. He might not have the on-court accomplishments of others, but his legacy stands toe-to-toe with all-time greats. Nothing makes that more clear than this story.

Overall, Shelburne's story is a fascinating look at the behind-the-scenes work that went into getting this project off the ground, and it's a testament to the familial nature of the NBA that so many of the league's most important figures played a part in making it happen.

Michael Jordan agreed to 'The Last Dance' documentary, thanks to LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Adam Silver
 
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It's literally the other way around. The Mavs are some all time great team because they beat Lebron now:bryan:

Yep....That's why I posted this in another thread about the 2011 Mavs looking similar to throwback/"plumbers" team LeBron would've ran through if he played back then

"The 2011 Mavs actually reminded me of a throwback team.They didn't have any super athletic players.Old man game was imprinted all over that squad.

Crafty, experienced, high IQ players.Terry, Barrea, old Kidd/Matrix.Tyson Chandler's a good player in his own era, but he's not remarkable.He's somewhere

between Theo Ratliff & Andrew Bogut level.Nobody's going to be talking about that dude 10 yrs from now.The 2011 Mavs formed a collective greater than it's parts.

They displayed a level of chemistry & cohesiveness you'd see back in the day.When players signed long term contracts & stayed together for 5..6..8..10 yrs.

The 2011 Finals reminded of Rocky 4.You had the old man game Mavs vs the new roided up Lebron James Heat.Most interesting Finals of the 2000's imo.

Actually brought me back to watching basketball.That & the 2013 Heat/Spurs Finals.Best of the 2000's no doubt.I appreciate the heat the Heat brought us"
 

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Jordan was the first player non-center to win a scoring title and the NBA championship in the same season and of course he did that in all his six championships.

Top Five: Scoring champs to win NBA title

There was a stigma that a player who won the scoring title couldn't also win a championship and that stigma was created by Wilt Chamberlain more than anyone.
 

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He was selfish. Krause and company were about business too when it came to dealing with MJ. That doesn't make it right. But MJ not giving two craps that Scottie wasn't getting paid adequately and not understanding that he would put off surgery and demand a trade.? That's selfish.

Yall got all the excuses in the world for dude's selfishness. Even dusty ass Phil Jackson understood...and he was the coach making more than Scottie.
This is the dumbest hill to die on bro. If you're just going to keep repeating yourself no matter what anybody tells you, just let it go.
 

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Seen my man Keith Booth pop up a couple times in the doc. As a Terps fan it was cool to see him get drafted by the Bulls in 97. Only saw him play like 8 minutes the whole season, and half the time they had him in street clothes. He's the dude in a suit hugging MJ in the clip they always show of him celebrating after the championship shot in Utah. Wonder if they show clips of MJ making that nikka make Garrett's popcorn runs :mjgrin:
 

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Michael Jordan agreed to 'The Last Dance' documentary, thanks to LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Adam Silver


The coronavirus pandemic has put a halt to the NBA season, but the entire basketball world will still be on their couches and tuned in on Sunday night. Not for a playoff game, unfortunately, but instead the beginning of a 10-part documentary about Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls titled "The Last Dance."

Ahead of the 1997-98 season, which everyone expected to be Jordan's last, producers at the NBA came up with an ambitious plan to document the entire thing. Now, more than 20 years later, the project has finally come to fruition, and early reviews indicate it will be a must-watch for any basketball fan.

But why now? How did this documentary finally come about? There were obviously all sorts of different factors that played a part, but it turns out that three key figures in NBA history were instrumental in getting Jordan's approval to go ahead with the film, according to a terrific story from Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.

Adam Silver
Before serving as NBA commissioner, Silver used to work in the league offices as the head of NBA Entertainment back in the 1990s, and was one of the main forces in getting the project off the ground. First, he was able to convince Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf, and head coach Phil Jackson of the historical importance of documenting that season. That was the easy part, however.

In order to get Jordan to acquiesce, Silver made a promise that the face of the league would have total control over the film after it was shot.


"There was no negotiation whatsoever," Silver explained. "All I said was, 'I'm sure there'll maybe be a tough negotiation at some point, but we don't have to have it now.' Because first and foremost, we have to capture the footage."

Then he offered Jordan the one thing he couldn't turn down: control.

"Our agreement will be that neither one of us can use this footage without the other's permission," Silver told Jordan. "It will be kept -- I mean literally it was physical film -- as a separate part of our Secaucus [New Jersey] library. Our producers won't have access to it. It will only be used with your permission."

That was a risky bet on Silver's part, because it meant the tapes might have sat locked away in a vault in Secaucus forever. But he correctly understood that getting the footage was the most important part of the league's job. There would be nothing to figure out on the backend if you didn't capture everything in the first place.

Looking back, that kind of foresight and negotiation ability makes it easy to see how Silver rose through the ranks in the league to become the commissioner.

LeBron James
M.J. or LeBron? Those two will forever be linked in the debate about the NBA's greatest player, so it's fitting that LeBron figured into the making of this documentary. As it turns out, Jordan gave the OK to use the footage on the same day that LeBron and the Cleveland Cavaliers were celebrating their 2016 championship with a parade through the streets of Cleveland.

"The universe has such a funny sense of humor," said Mike Tollin, the producer of The Last Dance. "Because when I woke up, I put on ESPN while I'm getting dressed, and there's LeBron [James] and the Cavaliers parading through the streets of Cleveland with the trophy that they'd just won."

Was LeBron getting one ring closer to matching his mythical six titles a driving force in Jordan wanting to create something that would truly capture his greatness? Or was this just a weird coincidence? Probably the latter, but as competitive as Jordan still is, you can't rule out the former as a possibility. Either way it's an interesting anecdote to the story.

Allen Iverson
Aside from Jordan and LeBron, there's perhaps been no more culturally significant player in NBA history than Allen Iverson. So, again, it's fitting that he factors into this story as well.

Tollin previously made a documentary about the misunderstood star titled simply, "Iverson." It's a well done project, and one Jordan loved so much that it made him cry. The fact that Tollin was involved in "Iverson" sealed the deal.

The last page of the presentation was a look at the documentaries, movies and shows Tollin and his company, Mandalay Sports Media, had done.

"So there's Kareem [Abdul-Jabbar], there's Hank Aaron, there's 'Varsity Blues,' there's 'Coach Carter' and so forth," Tollin said. "He's actually looking at them all, and in the bottom right corner is 'Iverson.' He goes, 'You did that?'"

Tollin didn't answer. Jordan repeated the question.

Tollin wondered if this was going to work for or against him. Like the timing with the Cavaliers' championship parade that morning, it was impossible to know.

Tollin mumbled a cautious, "Yes."

Jordan took his glasses off, looked up and said, "I watched that thing three times. Made me cry. Love that little guy."

Then he walked around the desk, extended his hand and said, "Let's do it."

Even well after his retirement, Iverson is still impacting the league and the culture surrounding basketball. He might not have the on-court accomplishments of others, but his legacy stands toe-to-toe with all-time greats. Nothing makes that more clear than this story.

Overall, Shelburne's story is a fascinating look at the behind-the-scenes work that went into getting this project off the ground, and it's a testament to the familial nature of the NBA that so many of the league's most important figures played a part in making it happen.

Michael Jordan agreed to 'The Last Dance' documentary, thanks to LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Adam Silver

Probably because MJ called him a Little Bytch and the next game against each other AI went for him and crossed him up. Thats how you gain instant respect from someone like MJ
 
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