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What? People bring up the 3rd Act CGI, Action, and T Challa's portrayal to try to downplay the film all the time. It's already one of the most nitpicked films ever. Now if you want to talk about a film whose many flaws are ignored then look no further than TDK (and I love the movie).
you're not wrong, but i feel like you often see those complaints and then inexpicably get this as a followup - "but it's an incredible movie, easily in my top 3 MCU films."
 

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you're not wrong, but i feel like you often see those complaints and then inexpicably get this as a followup - "but it's an incredible movie, easily in my top 3 MCU films."

Ehh personally I've mostly seem those complaints ended with them saying that the movie's overrated, not as good as people think, or just plain sucked. That's not to say there are those that still love the movie but still had valid criticisms but a lot the time I see haters trying to call it "the worst marvel movie ever".
 

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Ehh personally I've mostly seem those complaints ended with them saying that the movie's overrated, not as good as people think, or just plain sucked. That's not to say there are those that still love the movie but still had valid criticisms but a lot the time I see haters trying to call it "the worst marvel movie ever".
i guess i overstated it... but i still think the "claws" are gonna be out for the sequel (someone is gonna make that shytty pun, might as well be me) so they need to really make it epic. especially now that there are no Avengers movies on the schedule. BP v. Namor could be a massive event.
 

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i guess i overstated it... but i still think the "claws" are gonna be out for the sequel (someone is gonna make that shytty pun, might as well be me) so they need to really make it epic. especially now that there are no Avengers movies on the schedule. BP v. Namor could be a massive event.
What you speak of is in terms of critics not fans.

Marvel fans didn't accept it or value it as much as critics or general audiences.

Critics/GA will look closely at the sequel because every bit of praise is followed by an "overrated" comment.
 

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Ehh personally I've mostly seem those complaints ended with them saying that the movie's overrated, not as good as people think, or just plain sucked. That's not to say there are those that still love the movie but still had valid criticisms but a lot the time I see haters trying to call it "the worst marvel movie ever".

You already know why though :mjpls:. Especially after it was nominated for the Oscar.
 

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Ehh personally I've mostly seem those complaints ended with them saying that the movie's overrated, not as good as people think, or just plain sucked. That's not to say there are those that still love the movie but still had valid criticisms but a lot the time I see haters trying to call it "the worst marvel movie ever".

We all know the real reason why they hate it. :francis:
 

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Also, the issues I had with Black Panther 1 was they cut out scenes that should have stayed in the movie and added to the character arcs. That was some of the critiques some people had on the film saying some things didn't seem fleshed out and made sense.
 

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Also, the issues I had with Black Panther 1 was they cut out scenes that should have stayed in the movie and added to the character arcs. That was some of the critiques some people had on the film saying some things didn't seem fleshed out and made sense.
Man I wish they'd let us see the longer version of this movie...

So your simple request involves the movie being made at another studio lol. Not. Gonna. Happen. It is what it is man.

Moved it here.

After Batman Begins success WB let Nolan have more pull for the sequel.

The Wolverine was just mid tier status and Fox let Mangold have more pull for Logan.

Not saying they'll ever let it be Logan status in terms of R rating and all that stuff. Just in terms of the makeup of the film....I don't see why they can't push it further.
 

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Man I wish they'd let us see the longer version of this movie...



Moved it here.

After Batman Begins success WB let Nolan have more pull for the sequel.

The Wolverine was just mid tier status and Fox let Mangold have more pull for Logan.

Not saying they'll ever let it be Logan status in terms of R rating and all that stuff. Just in terms of the makeup of the film....I don't see why they can't push it further.
But you’re missing the larger point of those movies not being connected to a house style or larger universe. Those movies were self contained and not wedded to any overall mandate or larger story. When you have a house style, which marvel has, and a larger story to tell, which they also have, the filmmaker can only color but so far outside of the lines.

The two examples you’re citing is an apples to oranges comparison
 
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Cover Story: For the Love of Lupita Nyong’o

Shortly after she wrapped Black Panther, Nyong’o had somewhat reluctantly begun work on her first book, Sulwe, which comes out this month. The idea came from a speech Nyong’o gave in 2014, at the Essence Black Women in Hollywood brunch, about colorism. “I received a letter from a girl,” Nyong’o said to the audience, “and I’d like to share just a small part of it with you: ‘Dear Lupita,’ it reads, ‘I think you’re really lucky to be this black but yet this successful in Hollywood overnight. I was just about to buy Dencia’s Whitenicious cream to lighten my skin when you appeared on the world map and saved me.”

Her words went viral at the time, and shortly came suggestions for a children’s book. But, says Nyong’o, “I just felt depleted. I was just like, I have nothing more to say. It’s all in the speech.” With time, and having felt the enormous potential of Black Panther, however, she returned to the idea. Black Panther was the key I needed.”

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