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Like someone else said, MBaka was the most level headed person the whole movie

This is what blows my mind.
M’Baku, a man who properly managed his emotions and used logic to the benefit and safety of his people like a true king would = Emasculated bytch ass nikka

Shuri, a woman that is stricken with pain and grief initially willing to lead her people into an endless war with a magical society that also has the same source for advanced technology = Perfect mindset for a man

M’Baku was running laps around Shuri in maturity and leadership.
 

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Anyway, I liked the movie. I’d give it a solid 7.5/10, a little too long, Riri was underdeveloped and I think this could’ve been done without her, and the action…Coogler has to step it up, there’s so much potential being left on the floor. I can give Shuri a pass as she’s not a warrior and this is her first day as the Black Panther, but M’Baku, the Dora etc. should be showing out.
The ship scene in the beginning is amazing, the crew members drowning themselves was hauntingly dope.
The performances were top notch.
Good to see Killmonger still on his bullshyt.:mjlit:
The music was amazing.
 

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What?

they got the kid and if I heard him correctly, he got the same damn name.

New BP won’t be out till 2025-26 at the least. If not longer. They literally did recast it cause him or the next actor who plays him, will be BP
the kid is a different character with a different background my guy lmfao its not the same thing and jf anything its insulting on some “damn here a nother nikka named Tchalla, now stfu”
 

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I loved the movie it was nicely done. I didn't like how Namor looked and they fact they made him Mexican though that was my only complaint. I'm a stickler for shyt like that though I like things to be just like how they are in the comics.

But overall I was very happy with it.
 

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Coogler has to step it up, there’s so much potential being left on the floor.

chomping through BP mythology too fast .. where is the wakandan secret service? war dogs chief/organisation? if the dore head is the general where does she work. where is their council? do they spy on the other tribes? if war dogs exist might they have heard something of talokan? would they not be brought in (even to reject them) as a means of finding out more abotu talokan? where is the deep dive into the tech? we see shuri's lab but see little of how things actually work. what are the war dogs doing in the usa now? any in the us govt/security services? man needs to flesh his script out so that there is less in terms of "major events" and more in terms of depth.

coogler is not setting the tentpoles right before filling in the blanks.

want to give riri a thread ... show her as a child watching tony stark/IM doing something just before ...

he needs to slow it down and make each moment more special.

that scene were those-two clapsed hands while using that printer was "pivotal" in script but the tension and elation was on screen and not transmitted or shared with the audience. it just happened.

compare and contrast with this set-up of one hero trusting another to do something .. and then that something being "executed" ...

a far bigger deal is made of cap and tony coming together in unison and the sharp contrast of success vs. cost of failure.

the use of angles. the script, the trumpets, the musical fanfare all leading to "agreement" and "execution" with the "cost of failture" building narrative tension.



that scene structure is missing from much of BP2 and BP1 as well.

coogler is a master of human aspects and "emotional turns" in the MCU but he is making super-hero films and his films lack something wrt super-hero magic

as one man said the skill of a director is to make the mundane look special and this applies double in super-hero films. coogler routinely makes the special mundane.
 

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the kid is a different character with a different background my guy lmfao its not the same thing and jf anything its insulting on some “damn here a nother nikka named Tchalla, now stfu”
This isn’t the comics. Tchalla is dead fam. His son will be BP

Antman didn’t invent Ultron and the mutants haven’t even been here. Like this is the MCU, not the comics

This pacifies everyone. You didn’t recast HIM, you got the tribute movie, you got another BP coming, he’s black, and a man, and he’ll be A tchalla himeself

Call it a day.
 

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chomping through BP mythology too fast .. where is the wakandan secret service? war dogs chief/organisation? if the dore head is the general where does she work. where is their council? do they spy on the other tribes? if war dogs exist might they have heard something of talokan? would they not be brought in (even to reject them) as a means of finding out more abotu talokan? where is the deep dive into the tech? we see shuri's lab but see little of how things actually work. what are the war dogs doing in the usa now? any in the us govt/security services? man needs to flesh his script out so that there is less in terms of "major events" and more in terms of depth.

coogler is not setting the tentpoles right before filling in the blanks.

want to give riri a thread ... show her as a child watching tony stark/IM doing something just before ...

he needs to slow it down and make each moment more special.

that scene were those-two clapsed hands while using that printer was "pivotal" in script but the tension and elation was on screen and not transmitted or shared with the audience. it just happened.

compare and contrast with this set-up of one hero trusting another to do something .. and then that something being "executed" ...

a far bigger deal is made of cap and tony coming together in unison and the sharp contrast of success vs. cost of failure.

the use of angles. the script, the trumpets, the musical fanfare all leading to "agreement" and "execution" with the "cost of failture" building narrative tension.



that scene structure is missing from much of BP2 and BP1 as well.

coogler is a master of human aspects and "emotional turns" in the MCU but he is making super-hero films and his films lack something wrt super-hero magic

as one man said the skill of a director is to make the mundane look special and this applies double in super-hero films. coogler routinely makes the special mundane.

Bro this scene is from like the 15th marvel movie and 10th between those two lol

You want all that out of the SECOND BP movie? You know fiege in control anyway
 

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How do y'all manage to completely ignore all nuance with this shyt???

All of the various Batman and Superman castings are different continuities and universes (with the exception of Val Kilmer and George Clooney in Forever and Batman & Robin and those two movies are trash anyway). And none of those actors tragically died after one movie that crushed the buildings and made a huge cultural imprint.

Like, how do you guys keep ignoring how much his death hangs a cloud over shyt? You simply can't proceed business as usual for a character that important in a movie that's literally in the same continuity. And then think about all the cast & crew that are grieving his death...it's far more authentic and respectful to make a movie that actual channels and addresses the real life grief of loss rather than trying to pretend it didn't happen.

Can't ignore the Elephant in the room.
Always nice to see someone with actual sense and a shred of empathy highlight the nuance of this situation.

Movie was still good. Stop being weird and go support your people regardless of what reproductive organs they have :pachaha:

nikkas in here proudly talking bout just staying home, loading up Disney+, and watching Black Panther 1 on repeat in protest. Ya'll nikkas is weird man :pachaha:
 

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Movie runtime should’ve been cut by half an hour at least. Way too much black grief trauma porn going on. The college chick’s character hardly had any impact and was forgettable. I doubt people who walked out the cinema even remembered her name, and the action left more to be desired. Angela Bassett was a TITAN in this movie acting-wise.

But overall 7 outta 10.

If you haven’t seen it yet, probably better off waiting on the Disney+ release tbh :yeshrug:
 

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I loved the movie it was nicely done. I didn't like how Namor looked and they fact they made him Mexican though that was my only complaint. I'm a stickler for shyt like that though I like things to be just like how they are in the comics.

But overall I was very happy with it.

I def understand the mind set but just keep in mind comic book characters , particularly mainstream ones are white and male 90% of the time. Them nerdy white boys wasn't about to make anybody who looks like us, or Latino, or Asian for that matter into superheros.

And due to racist practices, the door was never open for talented brothers and sisters to contribute till super late in the game.

Because of this, I'm perfectly fine when characters are changed into people of color - especially if the character isn't insanely popular and a cultural institution like a Batman or Superman.

Though even Superman wouldn't bother me. An outsider who embraces the sunlight? Sounds like a black man to me :pachaha:


I think one of the reasons Iron Fist show failed(besides being boring with bad writing) is because they thought folks was really tryna see this unathleic white boy do kung fu. Danny Rand never should have been white to begin with. Instead of fixing that, they doubled down.

As long as the character's race isn't integral to their story (aka T'Challa being an African king or Shang Chi an Asian warrior), I'm all good with it.
 

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Bro this scene is from like the 15th marvel movie and 10th between those two lol

You want all that out of the SECOND BP movie? You know fiege in control anyway

i am talking about the scene structure.

try this instead



or out of the MCU

you and i would just have this open as a man with a gun in his mouth.

fincher however did this - a journey through his mind



you and i would just have these buildings blow up

fincher did this ..



"making the mundane special"
 
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