Official MCU Black Panther 2 Thread

[Ziggiy]

How in the WORLD was MCU Shuri set up to take the mantle of Black Panther What movies were YA’LL watching!?!?! Where did she show any leadership qualities whatsoever? When did she inspire confidence, hope, and faith in Wakandan citizens? When did she show ANY desire whatsoever to be ruler of Wakanda? Could she have beaten Kilmonger? Could she have beaten M’Baku?


What deleted scenes did I miss where Shuri taking over for T’Challa makes any logical sense?

 

[Child_Of_God]

How in the WORLD was MCU Shuri set up to take the mantle of Black Panther What movies were YA’LL watching!?!?! Where did she show any leadership qualities whatsoever? When did she inspire confidence, hope, and faith in Wakandan citizens? When did she show ANY desire whatsoever to be ruler of Wakanda? Could she have beaten Kilmonger? Could she have beaten M’Baku?


What deleted scenes did I miss where Shuri taking over for T’Challa makes any logical sense?

I swear dudes just be talking out of they’re asses on here.

Shuri still has a long way to go before she can even think about ruling Wakanda.

 

[nieman]

How in the WORLD was MCU Shuri set up to take the mantle of Black Panther What movies were YA’LL watching!?!?! Where did she show any leadership qualities whatsoever? When did she inspire confidence, hope, and faith in Wakandan citizens? When did she show ANY desire whatsoever to be ruler of Wakanda? Could she have beaten Kilmonger? Could she have beaten M’Baku?


What deleted scenes did I miss where Shuri taking over for T’Challa makes any logical sense?

It's like they didn't even watch the movie. They had one scene in which she raised her hand, and said she wants to go home. She didn't step up to fight to protect her brother, she didn't challenge Killmonger, didn't strategize.

Of course they were gonna pass her the mantle, but not until there were 3-4 movies with T'Challa. They're practically done with Spider-Man movies, so that leaves Danvers & T'Challa, and whatever new character they can prop up to maintain their franchise.

 

[Still Benefited]

They won't go back to Killmonger because they won't put their entire franchise on the back of a villain. It doesn't matter how much he resonated with black people. They would have to change him up first, like they did Loki, but he's dead so.....Secondly, you have white saviors of an independent African nation, and that won't fly with their black audience. And for comic heads, the Avengers don't belong in Wakanda for extended periods of time. Even in the MCU, the time they've been there, they've fukked everything up. And it takes more than 1 movie for Shuri to become a character she never showed any traits of having, which is how she differs in the comics. They tied T'Challa with BP too much for anything other than a recast or T'Challa. He was hinted at already BP before he became king.

You mean like they basically did with Thanos?I know it wasn't the entire franchise,but thats not what I'm suggesting. Its just the best way to utilize (Chadwicks)Tchallas death for emotional impact. If your nervous at all about how a replacement will be recieved. Or don't feel you have a good replacement to carry the franchise going foward. Putting your franchise on the back of some new actor who fans could easily not like is risker than putting Killmonger in the drivers seat for one film. Also I'm not saying Avengers would win,I'm saying they would try to stop Killmonger but would fail and Shuri would have to save the day. Speaking of which,you say Shuri cant change in one movie. But Tchalla changed his entire motivation in 10 minutes in Civil War,then his entire ideology in two hours in Black Panther. So I guess by traits you simply mean having no fighting skills. Need I remind you of Pepper flying an iron man suit?. She could easily pick up fighting skills in a quick montague or design a suit that just has better tech than Killmongers. Like I say,if they pick a good replacement I think people will be all for it. But people don't seem to see the risk in picking the wrong person,and act like that would be easy. When in doubt,stick with the proven(Killmonger) and just build a good story where we can root for Shuri to take him down because he's been built up to be so hateable.

 

[Still Benefited]

It's like they didn't even watch the movie. They had one scene in which she raised her hand, and said she wants to go home. She didn't step up to fight to protect her brother, she didn't challenge Killmonger, didn't strategize.

Of course they were gonna pass her the mantle, but not until there were 3-4 movies with T'Challa. They're practically done with Spider-Man movies, so that leaves Danvers & T'Challa, and whatever new character they can prop up to maintain their franchise.

So what the hell is the difference? If they were going to pass it to her in 3 movies,they can pass it to her in 2. Because with no Chadwick,clearly she would get more scenes than she got with Chadwick being alive. So that would advance her growth more quickly. Yall are okay with her being past the mantle in 3 movies with no buildup or real payoff. But not in 1 or 2,with an actual storyline geared toward her getting payback towards somebody who killed her brother.

And the fact she showed no traits doesn't make her a bad character,I assume you dudes never saw Lion King. Sometimes your forced to grow up fast

 

[Still Benefited]

sounds like they were planning to have shuri take the mantel all along. They been moving in a female direction with all the heroes.
She Hulk, She Thor, She Panther, She Ironman New WIdow, Scarlet Witch. Captain Marvel. No way they recasting another dude when this already falls in line with their grand plan of having more women headliners.

Now that they already have Blade and Falcon its even more likely,these dudes can't see the writing on the wall. The black man quota is filled

 

[Still Benefited]

How in the WORLD was MCU Shuri set up to take the mantle of Black Panther What movies were YA’LL watching!?!?! Where did she show any leadership qualities whatsoever? When did she inspire confidence, hope, and faith in Wakandan citizens? When did she show ANY desire whatsoever to be ruler of Wakanda? Could she have beaten Kilmonger? Could she have beaten M’Baku?


What deleted scenes did I miss where Shuri taking over for T’Challa makes any logical sense?

She showed she had heart


And when did Tchalla inspire confidence,I clearly remember a mutiny where they were questioning his wish washy leadership. Went from no outsiders,to allowing Europeans aaallll up in Wakanda like it was a cheap motel 6. Plus you've seen Lion King,and probably cried at the rise of young Simba,forced to grow up fast to take Scar down. This mostly seems to be about her lack of fighting skills. You guys act as though you've never seen somebody learn to fight quciker than they should be able to within a two hour movie. Use your imagination fellas

Plus ever think perhaps she uses her brain and her tech knowledge to make a superior suit? But Killmonger would still be the main lead,as he is boxoffice. Her victory in the end would just be the payoff in the franchise.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

So what the hell is the difference? If they were going to pass it to her in 3 movies,they can pass it to her in 2. Because with no Chadwick,clearly she would get more scenes than she got with Chadwick being alive. So that would advance her growth more quickly. Yall are okay with her being past the mantle in 3 movies with no buildup or real payoff. But not in 1 or 2,with an actual storyline geared toward her getting payback towards somebody who killed her brother.

And the fact she showed no traits doesn't make her a bad character,I assume you dudes never saw Lion King. Sometimes your forced to grow up fast

When Killmonger defeated T'Challa and chucked ya man like a a bag a trash....why didnt she feel the need to grow up faster then? She thought he killed her brother and took over Wakanda

 

[ML29]

How in the WORLD was MCU Shuri set up to take the mantle of Black Panther What movies were YA’LL watching!?!?! Where did she show any leadership qualities whatsoever? When did she inspire confidence, hope, and faith in Wakandan citizens? When did she show ANY desire whatsoever to be ruler of Wakanda? Could she have beaten Kilmonger? Could she have beaten M’Baku?


What deleted scenes did I miss where Shuri taking over for T’Challa makes any logical sense?

Even when they teased her challenging him for the throne in the first movie, it was a literal punchline because she was bored and wanted to leave the ceremony.

 

[Ziggiy]

She showed she had heart


She showed she was no where near ready for that action.

And when did Tchalla inspire confidence,I clearly remember a mutiny where they were questioning his wish washy leadership. Went from no outsiders,to allowing Europeans aaallll up in Wakanda like it was a cheap motel 6. Plus you've seen Lion King,and probably cried at the rise of young Simba,forced to grow up fast to take Scar down. This mostly seems to be about her lack of fighting skills. You guys act as though you've never seen somebody learn to fight quciker than they should be able to within a two hour movie. Use your imagination fellas

Plus ever think perhaps she uses her brain and her tech knowledge to make a superior suit? But Killmonger would still be the main lead,as he is boxoffice. Her victory in the end would just be the payoff in the franchise.

T’Challa was inspiring faith and confidence in Wakandan people after beating W’Kabi. You didn’t see how happy and proud of him everyone was? Meanwhile Shuri was....complaining about her corset


You talk of the Lion King like

1). Simba wasn’t being primed to take over as King BY Mufasa before he died. You had scenes of Mufasa showing Simba the Pride Lands, teaching him about the circle of life. Impressing upon him what it means to BE a ruler. Shuri bas gotten none of that development, why? Because her MCU counterpart was NOT supposed to rule nor did she have any skill nor desire to.

Your Lion King correlation is faulty and full of holes.

 

[nieman]

So what the hell is the difference? If they were going to pass it to her in 3 movies,they can pass it to her in 2. Because with no Chadwick,clearly she would get more scenes than she got with Chadwick being alive. So that would advance her growth more quickly. Yall are okay with her being past the mantle in 3 movies with no buildup or real payoff. But not in 1 or 2,with an actual storyline geared toward her getting payback towards somebody who killed her brother.

And the fact she showed no traits doesn't make her a bad character,I assume you dudes never saw Lion King. Sometimes your forced to grow up fast

So what the hell is the difference? If they were going to pass it to her in 3 movies,they can pass it to her in 2. Because with no Chadwick,clearly she would get more scenes than she got with Chadwick being alive. So that would advance her growth more quickly. Yall are okay with her being past the mantle in 3 movies with no buildup or real payoff. But not in 1 or 2,with an actual storyline geared toward her getting payback towards somebody who killed her brother.

And the fact she showed no traits doesn't make her a bad character,I assume you dudes never saw Lion King. Sometimes your forced to grow up fast

They've been building it up though. They've milked characters, until they couldn't anymore. Thor is getting 4 movies, the 4th is where the mantle gets passed. Captain America had 3 movies, mantle got passed in Avengers. Pepper had an entire arc in IM3, that included her getting into the armor, AND getting powers. War Machine (another replaced actor) got a tease in 1, donned the armor in 2 (and kept it), and been WM ever since. Ant-Man and The Wasp, in the first movie she's already a fighter, and wanted to be Ant-Man/Wasp. That's what they needed for Shuri to assume the mantle instantly in the second. There is 0 buildup for Shuri to become BP. In the comics, the entire reason she was created was to challenge the throne. She was a stubborn, brash, fighter, but also a strategist that believed that she could be BP and rule Wakanda. This girl is just a techie sidekick. There's nothing wrong with that, and I was one that thought they should tease Shuri vying for the throne in the first movie, before it came out and she turned out to be Riri.

As for Killmonger, he's a villain. The Mouse is not going to rest a franchise, and cornerstone of their billy empire on a villain. And he only resonated with the black audience. They'd go with M'Baku long before bringing Killmonger back, because M'Baku has already been painted as a hero/ally. Chadwick wasn't some A-Lister, he was a good actor, that had been doing biopics for the mouse. To think that there are no other actors where Chadwick was at the time, is asinine. Plus, these BP movies aren't exactly being fast-tracked. By the time this comes out, people will have long moved on from Chadwick's death.

 

[Numpsay]

If they were setting Shuri up to take the mantle, when T'Challa went down in BP1, Ramonda would have looked to make Shuri the Black Panther to save Wakanda and not Nakia.

 

[Rain]

I'd sooner like to see the movie carried by Nakia than Shuri

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I'd sooner like to see the movie carried by Nakia than Shuri

I'm telling you this is the answer. She was a leader in BP to. Even prior to Killmonger's arrival she was promoting Wakandan reach out to other nations to help them. And when Killmonger threw T'Challa off the waterfall she was the only one acting with urgency and had her head on straight.
And practically speaking outside of the movie Lupita is more accomplished than any male actor you are thinking of replacing Chadwick with. And she would be like way more believable as a female Black Panther compared to the Shuri actress. She has been the lead in successful movies, won an Oscar, she's even actually African and she's already a character in the universe you don't even need to introduce her. It's actually perfect if you ask me.

 

[Still Benefited]

When Killmonger defeated T'Challa and chucked ya man like a a bag a trash....why didnt she feel the need to grow up faster then? She thought he killed her brother and took over Wakanda

Maybe she was training,but since you guys need a Rocky montague I guess we can't assume