Official Luka Doncic Will Be A Bust Thread

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Post a link to "most analytics" please, I really need to see these. Watching the games he's definitely taken a huge step back from what he once was
This... Going by the eye test it looks like he doesn’t jump to contest drives and let’s his man drive on him too often. He takes up space and deters by just being a big body and secures defensive rebounds.
 
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This... Going by the eye test it looks like he doesn’t jump to contest drives and let’s his man drive on him too often. He takes up space and deters by just being a big body and secures defensive rebounds.
And you'd be right on all accounts - he only contests six 2-point shots a game (avg 31 minutes). To put that into perspective:

Gobert contests 13 per game
B.Lopez contests 12.8 per game
Jarrett Allen contests 12.8 per game
KAT contests 11.9 per game
LMA contests 11 per game
McGee contests 11 per game (in considerably fewer minutes)
Capela contests 10.8 per game

Basically, he's only contesting half the amount of 2-pt shots as the league-leaders. And that's not even taking into account his low contest rate on 3s either (he contests 1/3 of the amount of 3-pt shots as the league-leading big men: 1.1 per game) - he literally contests 3-pt shots at a worse rate than every single big man. Essentially the only form of defense he's been playing this season is crashing the glass.
 

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DeAndre's impact is way down defensively by eye test and statistically. His block numbers are way and have been trending like so for a while, and he's getting called out for padding his rebound stats etc.

The Mavs team might look okay on paper but the majority of their players (DSJ, Barnes, Wes etc.) are of negligible positive impact and/or are black holes offensively.
 

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“Experience” is such a moot point when it’s coming from Wesley Matthews and Harrison Barnes. This mavs team is really not very good and no one should expect them to make the playoffs in the west
No, we’re not playing this game. A generational talent in the vein of Lebron James has MORE than enough talent on this Mavs team to make the playoffs in the down West this year. Don’t hedge your bets.

The same casuals in here who compare Trae Young to Steph Curry every game all of a sudden want to run from the Lebron standard, even though he’s compared to him daily. :mjgrin:

Is it oochie Wally Wally or is it One Mic?
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And keep two first round picks in this years draft
Exactly, I don't know why people even bring this up. Trae was never a Day 1 player and Doncic was always a Day 1 player. For crying out loud, he has been a pro going on his 6th season. Two years ago, Trae was playing AAU ball and HS ball. We draft off of potential. That's why D. Fox went ahead of D. Mitchell.
 

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Exactly, I don't know why people even bring this up. Trae was never a Day 1 player and Doncic was always a Day 1 player. For crying out loud, he has been a pro going on his 6th season. Two years ago, Trae was playing AAU ball and HS ball. We draft off of potential. That's why D. Fox went ahead of D. Mitchell.
Luka might as well be John wall, it will take nine years to determine he is not a franchise defining player
 

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And you'd be right on all accounts - he only contests six 2-point shots a game (avg 31 minutes). To put that into perspective:

Gobert contests 13 per game
B.Lopez contests 12.8 per game
Jarrett Allen contests 12.8 per game
KAT contests 11.9 per game
LMA contests 11 per game
McGee contests 11 per game (in considerably fewer minutes)
Capela contests 10.8 per game

Basically, he's only contesting half the amount of 2-pt shots as the league-leaders. And that's not even taking into account his low contest rate on 3s either (he contests 1/3 of the amount of 3-pt shots as the league-leading big men: 1.1 per game) - he literally contests 3-pt shots at a worse rate than every single big man. Essentially the only form of defense he's been playing this season is crashing the glass.

Business decisions :wow:
 
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