Official Lovecraft Country Thread

[NeoSeeker]

Some of you guys appear to be Stereotypically repressed homosexuals with the way that you react to the slightest mention of anything gay. Two guys holding hands oughta not send you off the deep end that way

I mean, my God, you'd think dudes were making out every episode. 75% of this show wasn't in the book, yet Montrose being gay is the one thing people focus on. It's not like he's waving a rainbow flag every time he's on screen. His sexuality on the show has been a key part of his character development. This episode in particular did a very good job at humanizing him I thought. He so easily could've been an "angry drunk Black father" stereotype.

 

[Diondon]

Watchmen and now LC re-enactment of Tulsa. Wow.
Man, listen
Anyway, only one more episode left.
A lot of these shows only have 10 episodes now

 

[RawDogBandit]

That Tulsa angle drained the fukk out of me Emotionally. Idk why. Knowing our people was living in damn near harmony and prospering to have it be destroyed in a manner of hours...

I'm trying to ignore everything else(agenda wise).but yea..I'll come back later after I process this episode

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

When Tic was goin Jackie Robinson on them cacs and then the white bytch got hit too

Notice that they let her live. Evil women are rarely given gruesome deaths in cinema, especially white women. Even in Django, the white women was killed for comedic effect.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

This episode was heavy. Tic's father is such a tragic character.
I remember reading that the 1st time aerial bombardment was used on US soil was the Tulsa massacre

 

[head shots101]

Awesome ep....I don't understand how y'all dont like this? Even the queer shyt played a important part in the story

Excellent show

 

[Hood Critic]

 

[Bmezy]

It most definitely was NOT essential, hence it not being in the book. Montrose just got his ass whooped by his pops. George and Dora could’ve just caught up with Montrose sulking in the Square when the white mob surrounded them. The gay angle wasn’t needed to fit the plot. And it wasn’t even done that well. Montrose gets his ass whooped so he runs to break up with his secret lover? They been hiding from everyone else, but random CaCs show up and can immediately spot they’re fakkits
That’s the shytty part to me: Hollywood’s repeated attempts to try to equate racial struggles with gay struggles. Blackness can’t be hidden in some closet.

They wrote the gay shyt to give Montrose added motivation, but why is added motivation needed? Why isn’t the racial brutalizations enough? Why must homophobic brutalizations be added? You say it’s not done, but they literally did the exact same thing with Watchmen.

“It most definitely was NOT essential, hence it not being in the book.” - Gotta keep in mind this is just a reimagined story/landscape the book itself is just the canvas or a ‘premise’ for the story the writers and directors want to tell. The last 4 episodes are wayyy off from the book. The show isn’t just anchored by the story’s plot.

“Montrose just got his ass whooped by his pops. George and Dora could’ve just caught up with Montrose sulking in the Square when the white mob surrounded them.” - He got his ass whooped because his father caught him being mad fruity. This sets up the next scene for him to storm off in search for Thomas. His sulking wasn’t because of the ass whomping itself but the inner torment and his efforts to ‘cut out the soft parts of himself’ i.e- cutting Thomas out his life. George and Tic’s mother going after him set up the prequel to this current story.. Black creatives are invested in telling these sort of stories ..I can respect when it’s tastefully integrated into the story with some purpose and intent despite it’s something I’m not use to.

“They wrote the gay shyt to give Montrose added motivation, but why is added motivation needed” - Wasn’t really motivation imo.. Montrose being gay explains why tic’s bloodline survived the Tulsa massacre and why the bond between Montrose, George and Tic’s Mom was formed, giving birth to The events today. Again, everyone would have died in that fire had Montrose dad not scare him into breaking shyt off with ol’dude. Without Montrose’s sexuality the plot wouldn’t exist and it’s written that way for a reason. These aren’t character tropes.. I’m going to fast forward any blatant mango behavior but I can’t be mad at the way they’re handling it here is they’d going to tackle these uncomfortable subjects.. Ima writer so my perspective may be a bit different, but

“Why isn’t the racial brutalizations enough? Why must homophobic brutalizations be added?” - It’s to show that WE as Black people ALL need therapy. We’ve endured, witnessed, and survived so much travesty & horror. Stories we’ve held inside. Pain & trauma we’ve expressed in unhealthy ways. The fact that these family complexes exist as well adds another layer of complexity and nuance to the characters. Think about it: You living in Jim Crow era American south and one of your two only boys is a suspected fakkit. that’s a whole mother level of fear, angst, anxiety etc.. then being the homo child growing up as a closet black gay men in that era w/a son to raise. the actor that played montrose embodies perfectly being in those shoes.

Watchmen was cliche lgbtq clickbait.. didn’t add anything or any context to anything on the show. I don’t think it’s an equal comparison tbh

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

HBO gave 'em the bag for this show too. Yes some of the CGI has been rough in parts but they still spent a lot of money to produce this, look at the quality in comparison to most TV shows

 

[DoubleClutch]

This episode was heavy. Tic's father is such a tragic character.
I remember reading that the 1st time aerial bombardment was used on US soil was the Tulsa massacre

I wonder why no movie has been made on such an unprecedented historical event

Still waiting on a Haitian revolution movie as well

 

[ltheghost]

I can't get this dang song outta my head.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

“It most definitely was NOT essential, hence it not being in the book.” - Gotta keep in mind this is just a reimagined story/landscape the book itself is just the canvas or a ‘premise’ for the story the writers and directors want to tell. The last 4 episodes are wayyy off from the book. The show isn’t just anchored by the story’s plot.

“Montrose just got his ass whooped by his pops. George and Dora could’ve just caught up with Montrose sulking in the Square when the white mob surrounded them.” - He got his ass whooped because his father caught him being mad fruity. This sets up the next scene for him to storm off in search for Thomas. His sulking wasn’t because of the ass whomping itself but the inner torment and his efforts to ‘cut out the soft parts of himself’ i.e- cutting Thomas out his life. George and Tic’s mother going after him set up the prequel to this current story.. Black creatives are invested in telling these sort of stories ..I can respect when it’s tastefully integrated into the story with some purpose and intent despite it’s something I’m not use to.

“They wrote the gay shyt to give Montrose added motivation, but why is added motivation needed” - Wasn’t really motivation imo.. Montrose being gay explains why tic’s bloodline survived the Tulsa massacre and why the bond between Montrose, George and Tic’s Mom was formed, giving birth to The events today. Again, everyone would have died in that fire had Montrose dad not scare him into breaking shyt off with ol’dude. Without Montrose’s sexuality the plot wouldn’t exist and it’s written that way for a reason. These aren’t character tropes.. I’m going to fast forward any blatant mango behavior but I can’t be mad at the way they’re handling it here is they’d going to tackle these uncomfortable subjects.. Ima writer so my perspective may be a bit different, but

“Why isn’t the racial brutalizations enough? Why must homophobic brutalizations be added?” - It’s to show that WE as Black people ALL need therapy. We’ve endured, witnessed, and survived so much travesty & horror. Stories we’ve held inside. Pain & trauma we’ve expressed in unhealthy ways. The fact that these family complexes exist as well adds another layer of complexity and nuance to the characters. Think about it: You living in Jim Crow era American south and one of your two only boys is a suspected fakkit. that’s a whole mother level of fear, angst, anxiety etc.. then being the homo child growing up as a closet black gay men in that era w/a son to raise. the actor that played montrose embodies perfectly being in those shoes.

Watchmen was cliche lgbtq clickbait.. didn’t add anything or any context to anything on the show. I don’t think it’s an equal comparison tbh

Breh, I get that they wrote the homo shyt into the plot to explain different shyt, my only assertion was and still is that it was not essential. You don’t need to keep repeating the different ways they used it as motivation. If Montrose isn’t gay, the story could stay pretty much the same and no one would’ve batted an eye.

I also know that the gay shyt isn’t the only change the made from the book, but again I’m only refuting the claim that this change was essential, cuz it wasn’t. Y’all can keep pretending that Hollyweird doesn’t interject this gay shyt all the time if you want but they do. It’s been a wave for years now.

 

[talamak]

For those thinking that they don't crowbar this gay shyt onto blacks. Look at how VH1 is bringing back some type of flavor of love/bachelor show now with a few of the contestants being transgenders.