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Marks said:
Seems like some time bending is accepted. In Gamora's case to defeat thanos. Loki brings this up doesnt he in the ep? They say as much iirc. Im sure thats gonna be partly what the show is about or Loki's contention with the TVA. What gives the space lizard the right to exert control over the universe. Why not just let the multiverse happen.
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The "reason" is for that timeline to lead to the TVA being where they are today. Nothing to do with Thanos per-se.
 
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PoorAndDangerous said:
I can accept the covid argument but I felt like a lot of the social/race related dialogue was really stilted or not well done.
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People will pretend as if Falcon was the best television they ever seen because they want to support black TV and black oriented shows. I get it. But if I'm being real, the writing was terrible on that show SPECIFICALLY when it came to the justice/racism/social issues part. It was forced. The only scene i really felt was the old breh who had been experimented on. He was a great actor and pulled that scene off well.

Everything else? Nah it was basuras. And part of it is because Mackie just ain't a good actor and then the other part is that trying to pigeonhole a whole 400 years worth of social commentary and issues into a comic book show has to be exceptionally done or it shouldn't be done at all.

And it DEFINITELY was NOT exceptionally done. I found myself more annoyed with it than anything because it just was terrible and preachy.

When you speak on black ppls issues in entertainment, you have to do it right. And if you aint gon do it right, it's best to leave it alone.
 
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neotheflyingone said:
And part of it is because Mackie just ain't a good actor
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That is another thing that Loki has going for it. Hiddleston is a far better actor. He made those 1-2-1 chats with Morbius and the playback of his and his mother's deaths work. After all it was really only creh watching a video screen yet the scenes carried dramatic weight.
Compare the acting in those morbius chats with the Bucky vs. Falcon 1-2-1 chats.
 
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TENET said:
The only reason that Gamora-2 is "ok" is because her actions are on the timeline that led to the TVA "sacred timeline".

There is no moral value judgement and it doesn't matter (in principle) that Gamora is time displaced. Miss Minutes showed that the actual action itself is not the important thing (uprising vs. late for work). (infinity stone usage being an open point).

All that matters is "are her actions on the sacred timeline of actions that have occurred in the past, looking back at them from the distant future?".

Saying that the TVA are probably lying in some part and they are not in as much control and things are not as clear cut as they say.

If they were "all powerful" then the hidden-adversary/(other loki?) wouldn't be a threat.
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So basically, Gamora-2 is a non issue since she has no effect on the timeline. Where as Loki-2 is a major problem since he actually completely alters the timeline.
 
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People are overthinking this show already. Why is Loki getting knocked for time crimes when other people who messed with time aren't? Simple and they showed you, a variant Loki has been messing with them for a little while at least. He is uniquely suited to help the TVA with their problem. The propaganda they showed us/Loki about why they do what they do is bullshyt and they have contradicted it in prior movies, this show and we know they will in the future. Don't believe any of it.
 
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AnonymityX1000 said:
People are overthinking this show already. Why is Loki getting knocked for time crimes when other people who messed with time aren't? Simple and they showed you, a variant Loki has been messing with them for a little while at least. He is uniquely suited to help the TVA with their problem. The propaganda they showed us/Loki about why they do what they do is bullshyt and they have contradicted it in prior movies, this show and we know they will in the future. Don't believe any of it.
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Just like wandavision people are impatient.
 
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